This deal is not for everyone, unless you have a friend in the HVAC business you will more than likely have to self install as most companies understandably will not install self purchased equipment. This is not ductless.
3.5 ton air condenser plus encased coil for $1357. Listing states 14 SEER but when I looked at what is included it appears to be 16 SEER.
Best price I could see for the two pieces separately was $1271 for the condenser and 534 for the encased coil.
There are many combinations available but I cannot speak to the savings. This is the size I was looking for so I know this is a good deal.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/MRCOO.../315290325
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https://www.homedepot.com/b/Heati...=mr%20cool
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I am wondering if that guy doesn't realize he's literally on a website for cheapskates lol
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Additional materials are things like refrigerant, tape, screws, torch fuel, nitrogen, brazing material, and so forth. All that stuff might cost them $300 to be generous, which leaves them $4,000 in labor and markup. That $4,000 is not pure profit of course, as they have labor and other legitimate business expenses that come out of it. However, $4,000 is the amount they expect to walk away with after buying the equipment and materials.
If you call them out to install the equipment you ordered online, they are still going to expect the same $4,000 from you because that's what they could walk away with selling equipment to someone else instead of spending their time installing your equipment. The work might require 10 hours of labor, so you're probably going to get annoyed at them for trying to charge you $400 an hour in labor and tell them to get lost. Contractors don't want to waste their time giving a quote that will almost surely be turned down, so they just refuse to install customer-supplied equipment.
Contractors that don't install customer-supplied equipment will offer all sorts of excuses why, but they don't usually give not making as much money as a reason. Contractors also like to justify their high prices by citing the myriad of business expenses they have (labor, buying and maintaining vehicles, gasoline, insurance, advertising, rent, and so forth); however, you're really only buying labor and a few odds and ends in materials from them when you supply your own equipment. Few professionals besides doctors and lawyers command $400 per hour, no matter what their business expenses are. I mean no disrespect to hard-working HVAC professionals, but I'd rather not pay them as much as a doctor or lawyer if I can help it.
The bottom line is they don't want to work for $100 per hour if they can charge $400 per hour somewhere else.
Additional materials are things like refrigerant, tape, screws, torch fuel, nitrogen, brazing material, and so forth. All that stuff might cost them $300 to be generous, which leaves them $4,000 in labor and markup. That $4,000 is not pure profit of course, as they have labor and other legitimate business expenses that come out of it. However, $4,000 is the amount they expect to walk away with after buying the equipment and materials.
If you call them out to install the equipment you ordered online, they are still going to expect the same $4,000 from you because that's what they could walk away with selling equipment to someone else instead of spending their time installing your equipment. The work might require 10 hours of labor, so you're probably going to get annoyed at them for trying to charge you $400 an hour in labor and tell them to get lost. Contractors don't want to waste their time giving a quote that will almost surely be turned down, so they just refuse to install customer-supplied equipment.
Contractors that don't install customer-supplied equipment will offer all sorts of excuses why, but they don't usually give not making as much money as a reason. Contractors also like to justify their high prices by citing the myriad of business expenses they have (labor, buying and maintaining vehicles, gasoline, insurance, advertising, rent, and so forth); however, you're really only buying labor and a few odds and ends in materials from them when you supply your own equipment. Few professionals besides doctors and lawyers command $400 per hour, no matter what their business expenses are. I mean no disrespect to hard-working HVAC professionals, but I'd rather not pay them as much as a doctor or lawyer if I can help it.
The bottom line is they don't want to work for $100 per hour if they can charge $400 per hour somewhere else.
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In downstate NY, the typical quote I got for a 4-ton replacement was around $8-10k. Usually 16 SEER. If you wanted better equipment, the labor was fixed, and you just paid for the more expensive stuff. Not cheap at all, but it seems that $10k is the going for any HVAC...cooling, heating, etc. Even if its just a pair of ductless', it will somehow magically add to $10k.
Advice from my semi-recent HVAC upgrade experience (2018)...If you choose a company which is privy to all of the govt/utility rebates for high efficiency equipment when in conjunction with insulation and other improvements, you will likely pay alot less *and* get a contractor who isnt the type who installs one brand and gives one Rx over and over again to every client. Youll likely be able to bend alot of rules and get $ back which is not explicitly mentioned in the paperwork.
As for finding a decent contractor (decent here belies competence, reliability, and most of all, empathy) If you want a litmus test to the level of knowledge to expect from your company, and assuming you live in one of the "cold climate" areas like the Northeast or upper midwest, just mention "what options do you have for heat pumps?" and then take notes for the next 5-10 minutes of conversation. I know from my own experience, the convos did not last long, and neither did the visits. Mind you, this is even if you werent considering a heat pump...its just turns out to be an interesting trigger.
And it seems the experiences that I had were not unique: https://grist.org/buildings/he-wa...e-problem/
The best contractors will answer every question honestly and non-defensively. This is the same as I do in my business; I never condescend, I am always thorough, and I am always ok with a client walking away. The firm I hired from was owned by a PE that let me watch every step, explained all the nuances, and outright admitted when something was un-expected.
PS -Came here from the Amtrak pass thread, and the tangents in conversation here are very much in parallel to the ones there...