Most people are going to be driving these headphones from their laptops/phones and most laptops/phones do not have the sufficient power required to drive headphones like these.
So then you have to start thinking about buying a DAC, AMP, or DAC/AMP combo.
Then you have to ask yourself do you only want to listen to your headphones while sitting at a desk (with a wall outlet DAC/AMP) or want to be portable (requiring a portable DAC/AMP)
Budget solutions range between $100-200 for a decent DAC/AMP combo
Now that you have that figured out you need to subscribe to a music service that actually offers music streaming at a higher bitrate. Cheapest solution right now is Apple Music HD as Tidal HiFi is ridiculously overpriced and their MQA format is snake oil at best.
Once you got that figured out you will enjoy audiophile grade headphones and be able to appreciate new subtle nuances and aspects of songs you have heard 100s of times before.
this is most definitely not a no name brand. as a matter of fact, focal is one of the most popular brands in the world of audiophiles
Super helpful comment, looks like. Cheapest price available right now is this post, but OP must be a shill then. Guess the shill helped me find a really great priced headphone to go to my collection. Damn shills.
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Most people are going to be driving these headphones from their laptops/phones and most laptops/phones do not have the sufficient power required to drive headphones like these.
So then you have to start thinking about buying a DAC, AMP, or DAC/AMP combo.
Then you have to ask yourself do you only want to listen to your headphones while sitting at a desk (with a wall outlet DAC/AMP) or want to be portable (requiring a portable DAC/AMP)
Budget solutions range between $100-200 for a decent DAC/AMP combo
Now that you have that figured out you need to subscribe to a music service that actually offers music streaming at a higher bitrate. Cheapest solution right now is Apple Music HD as Tidal HiFi is ridiculously overpriced and their MQA format is snake oil at best.
Once you got that figured out you will enjoy audiophile grade headphones and be able to appreciate new subtle nuances and aspects of songs you have heard 100s of times before.
You can most certainly enjoy these with movies and games as well. I find certain movies can really benefit from a decent set of headphones.. Although they really do shine with high quality music -- or old fashion CDs.
Please don't buy expecting your phone will do them justice. Out of a computer which has a little more amperage on the headphone out might but cell phones and other small devices, you might as well just buy some bluetooth units that might sound better.
With that said, if you have a DAC/AMP or DAP that can handle full sized headphones then these are worth a go. CD quality or better, movies and games as well. I would say that certain movies really benefit from a nice set of headphones and changes the viewing experience.
I have the open back version of these plugged into a Chord Hugo 2 running hi-res and lossless files. Amazing experience
Most people are going to be driving these headphones from their laptops/phones and most laptops/phones do not have the sufficient power required to drive headphones like these.
So then you have to start thinking about buying a DAC, AMP, or DAC/AMP combo.
Then you have to ask yourself do you only want to listen to your headphones while sitting at a desk (with a wall outlet DAC/AMP) or want to be portable (requiring a portable DAC/AMP)
Budget solutions range between $100-200 for a decent DAC/AMP combo
Now that you have that figured out you need to subscribe to a music service that actually offers music streaming at a higher bitrate. Cheapest solution right now is Apple Music HD as Tidal HiFi is ridiculously overpriced and their MQA format is snake oil at best.
Once you got that figured out you will enjoy audiophile grade headphones and be able to appreciate new subtle nuances and aspects of songs you have heard 100s of times before.
This is highly misleading.
Yes these and any audiophile headphone benefit from an amp but you absolutely don't need one to drive them properly. These are sensitive headphones that focal specifically made for the portable market.
Please don't buy expecting your phone will do them justice. Out of a computer which has a little more amperage on the headphone out might but cell phones and other small devices, you might as well just buy some bluetooth units that might sound better.
With that said, if you have a DAC/AMP or DAP that can handle full sized headphones then these are worth a go. CD quality or better, movies and games as well. I would say that certain movies really benefit from a nice set of headphones and changes the viewing experience.
I have the open back version of these plugged into a Chord Hugo 2 running hi-res and lossless files. Amazing experience
My phone drives these just fine. I have an ifi hip dac and a thx aaa desktop amp which are obviously better but these absolutely don't require an amp. They're much easier to drive than high end cans from Sennheiser or Beyer.
Recommend grabbing Dekoni's elite sheepskin pads (non fenestrated) or their limited edition Stellia pads (which work on Elagia). Either one will turn these great pair of headphones into an amazing one.
And the pads make a way bigger difference than you'd think. The way the sound is trapped and reverbs makes them sound significantly different, plus the Dekoni pads are much more comfortable. Swapping takes about ten seconds tops and is so easy a two year old could do it.
Most people are going to be driving these headphones from their laptops/phones and most laptops/phones do not have the sufficient power required to drive headphones like these.
So then you have to start thinking about buying a DAC, AMP, or DAC/AMP combo.
Then you have to ask yourself do you only want to listen to your headphones while sitting at a desk (with a wall outlet DAC/AMP) or want to be portable (requiring a portable DAC/AMP)
Budget solutions range between $100-200 for a decent DAC/AMP combo
Now that you have that figured out you need to subscribe to a music service that actually offers music streaming at a higher bitrate. Cheapest solution right now is Apple Music HD as Tidal HiFi is ridiculously overpriced and their MQA format is snake oil at best.
Once you got that figured out you will enjoy audiophile grade headphones and be able to appreciate new subtle nuances and aspects of songs you have heard 100s of times before.
These are low-impedance and sensitive. They sound incredible out of a DAC/Amp or something as simple as an Apple Lightning dongle. Seriously, these aren't HD650s. No amp necessary. This comment is wrong and getting upvoted anyway.
I getting a bit of a bug, someone help me please. With a pair of HD650, HE5SE, and Isine20 this is a lateral purchase right?
Very different headphone and also closed. More detailed than the 650, never heard the HE5SE but probably a complement lateral move. A true Focal upgrade would probably be the Elex (Drop) or Clear OG for $990. With the current end-of-life sale on the Clear OG the Elear is effectively a non-factor. The Elex is an awesome bargain if everything goes according to plan but they had big QC issues in the past, not sure if it's still an issue.
Works fine without a dedicated DAC/Amp. And this is coming from a guy that has a decent stack. They sound incredibly detailed just like the regular focal speakers. Well maybe a bit more refined than the Aria line. That said, mine went dark on right side after 4 months of intermittent use. Like a couple of hours every few days. I am not the only one with the quality issues either. Fantastic sound but worth getting an extended warranty I think.
Would you consider this to be one of your final headphone purchases? Obviously each has its own signature sound. But I'd like to know if you were still searching for that something after these?
Bought these a couple weeks ago. They are very nice closed-back headphone. My daily driver had been HD600. These sound best with a bit of eq. For those complaining about this being a shill post you must be blind to not have noticed that most of this site now runs off of sponsored deals. Shame what SD has become in the last couple of years or so. With that being said, this is a good deal for a very nice headphone.
Do you mind expanding a little bit on how you like these compared to your hd600s?
Are these good for FPS gaming or general gaming needs on top of music for desktop PC?
EDIT: I currently use AKG371's, wondering if these would be a major upgrade or if I'd hardly notice a difference. If you have any input I'd like to hear.
I returned the one I got from last deal, since I am not sure if mine is defective or not. The vocal sounds hollow, like someone is talking through a radio. Instrumental music has less of that effect. For reference, I compare its sound to my HD6XX and DT990. (I am not audiophile by any measurement)
Since then I talk with other Elegia owners. And some of them mention they use EQ to fine tune their Elegia before they can truly enjoy it. I wonder when people praise the sound of the Elegia, whether they mean its raw untune sound, or the sound after tuning.
At a hifi store I had the opportunity to listen to all of the Focal headphones. I thought the Elegia sounded the least natural, to put it nicely. Not too far from your description. While the Elegia are/were one of Focal's cheapest models, I wouldn't buy them at any price. The Focal Radiance and Focal Clear are giant steps in a better direction, but they are priced accordingly.
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Most people are going to be driving these headphones from their laptops/phones and most laptops/phones do not have the sufficient power required to drive headphones like these.
So then you have to start thinking about buying a DAC, AMP, or DAC/AMP combo.
Then you have to ask yourself do you only want to listen to your headphones while sitting at a desk (with a wall outlet DAC/AMP) or want to be portable (requiring a portable DAC/AMP)
Budget solutions range between $100-200 for a decent DAC/AMP combo
Now that you have that figured out you need to subscribe to a music service that actually offers music streaming at a higher bitrate. Cheapest solution right now is Apple Music HD as Tidal HiFi is ridiculously overpriced and their MQA format is snake oil at best.
Once you got that figured out you will enjoy audiophile grade headphones and be able to appreciate new subtle nuances and aspects of songs you have heard 100s of times before.
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What he said. And, great deal OP, whether you are a shill or not… I like toys… I like them even better when they are a deal…
Most people are going to be driving these headphones from their laptops/phones and most laptops/phones do not have the sufficient power required to drive headphones like these.
So then you have to start thinking about buying a DAC, AMP, or DAC/AMP combo.
Then you have to ask yourself do you only want to listen to your headphones while sitting at a desk (with a wall outlet DAC/AMP) or want to be portable (requiring a portable DAC/AMP)
Budget solutions range between $100-200 for a decent DAC/AMP combo
Now that you have that figured out you need to subscribe to a music service that actually offers music streaming at a higher bitrate. Cheapest solution right now is Apple Music HD as Tidal HiFi is ridiculously overpriced and their MQA format is snake oil at best.
Once you got that figured out you will enjoy audiophile grade headphones and be able to appreciate new subtle nuances and aspects of songs you have heard 100s of times before.
With that said, if you have a DAC/AMP or DAP that can handle full sized headphones then these are worth a go. CD quality or better, movies and games as well. I would say that certain movies really benefit from a nice set of headphones and changes the viewing experience.
I have the open back version of these plugged into a Chord Hugo 2 running hi-res and lossless files. Amazing experience
Most people are going to be driving these headphones from their laptops/phones and most laptops/phones do not have the sufficient power required to drive headphones like these.
So then you have to start thinking about buying a DAC, AMP, or DAC/AMP combo.
Then you have to ask yourself do you only want to listen to your headphones while sitting at a desk (with a wall outlet DAC/AMP) or want to be portable (requiring a portable DAC/AMP)
Budget solutions range between $100-200 for a decent DAC/AMP combo
Now that you have that figured out you need to subscribe to a music service that actually offers music streaming at a higher bitrate. Cheapest solution right now is Apple Music HD as Tidal HiFi is ridiculously overpriced and their MQA format is snake oil at best.
Once you got that figured out you will enjoy audiophile grade headphones and be able to appreciate new subtle nuances and aspects of songs you have heard 100s of times before.
Yes these and any audiophile headphone benefit from an amp but you absolutely don't need one to drive them properly. These are sensitive headphones that focal specifically made for the portable market.
With that said, if you have a DAC/AMP or DAP that can handle full sized headphones then these are worth a go. CD quality or better, movies and games as well. I would say that certain movies really benefit from a nice set of headphones and changes the viewing experience.
I have the open back version of these plugged into a Chord Hugo 2 running hi-res and lossless files. Amazing experience
Recommend grabbing Dekoni's elite sheepskin pads (non fenestrated) or their limited edition Stellia pads (which work on Elagia). Either one will turn these great pair of headphones into an amazing one.
And the pads make a way bigger difference than you'd think. The way the sound is trapped and reverbs makes them sound significantly different, plus the Dekoni pads are much more comfortable. Swapping takes about ten seconds tops and is so easy a two year old could do it.
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Most people are going to be driving these headphones from their laptops/phones and most laptops/phones do not have the sufficient power required to drive headphones like these.
So then you have to start thinking about buying a DAC, AMP, or DAC/AMP combo.
Then you have to ask yourself do you only want to listen to your headphones while sitting at a desk (with a wall outlet DAC/AMP) or want to be portable (requiring a portable DAC/AMP)
Budget solutions range between $100-200 for a decent DAC/AMP combo
Now that you have that figured out you need to subscribe to a music service that actually offers music streaming at a higher bitrate. Cheapest solution right now is Apple Music HD as Tidal HiFi is ridiculously overpriced and their MQA format is snake oil at best.
Once you got that figured out you will enjoy audiophile grade headphones and be able to appreciate new subtle nuances and aspects of songs you have heard 100s of times before.
These are low-impedance and sensitive. They sound incredible out of a DAC/Amp or something as simple as an Apple Lightning dongle. Seriously, these aren't HD650s. No amp necessary. This comment is wrong and getting upvoted anyway.
EDIT: I currently use AKG371's, wondering if these would be a major upgrade or if I'd hardly notice a difference. If you have any input I'd like to hear.
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Since then I talk with other Elegia owners. And some of them mention they use EQ to fine tune their Elegia before they can truly enjoy it. I wonder when people praise the sound of the Elegia, whether they mean its raw untune sound, or the sound after tuning.