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YMMV - Chase mortgage interest reduction without refi (Jumbo ~2.875% 30yr fixed) $995

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Thought I'd give the community a heads up, while going through a refi through Chase (also my current lender), I was offered a separate program to adjust my interest rate without the need to go through underwriting. I am currently at Jumbo Loan 30 year 3.5%, and they offered me 2.875% with a single payment of $995 origination fee. Change will be reflected by Aug.

2.875% is the same quote that I received from Chase to go through a refi (unless you are a Chase Private Client, you may be eligible for additional 1/8 - 1/2 point reduction by bringing in new money).

The benefit of this program is that it eliminate the need for
  • Appraisal (~$600 in NorCal)
  • Credit check ($25)
  • Title Insurance ($900)
  • Closing fee ($450)
  • Fee fees aka misc. fees… (~$500)
But the biggest benefit is that you do not need to restart your 30 year fixed loan all over again. Kind of a no brainer, but they did say this is a targeted program. I'd recommend reaching out to your current Chase Mortgage Advisor to see if you also qualify! Good luck!
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Created 07-15-2021 at 05:10 PM by funkaboo
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funkaboo
07-15-2021 at 09:33 PM.
07-15-2021 at 09:33 PM.
Quote from mishra.rajul :
No points. I actually got $2700 in credits too for 2.625
Not sure what is non-refi adjustment

For a jumbo loan? Literally just spoke with them last Friday… I know rate dropped but not that significant.
Non refi adjustment just means changing your interest rate without refinance your whole loan. If you've already paid 2 years of your existing loan, you can keep going with the remaining 28 with a lower interest rate, as compared to a traditional refi, you have to start your 30 years again since this is a new loan.
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Raumbrtu
07-15-2021 at 09:35 PM.
07-15-2021 at 09:35 PM.
Rates are too low. They were offering 2.5% too but no credit. So I chose 2.625 for $2700 credit because I know I will sell the house in next 7-8 years for a better one
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Raumbrtu
07-15-2021 at 09:38 PM.
07-15-2021 at 09:38 PM.
Chase offered you a lower rate without refinancing so that you don't go outside chase to explore the market. I can guarantee that you can get 2.4% rate outside chase today without any points and will get credit too
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KaatuPaadi
07-15-2021 at 09:44 PM.
07-15-2021 at 09:44 PM.
Called mortgage recast
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nba2k18
07-15-2021 at 10:03 PM.
07-15-2021 at 10:03 PM.
Dayummm

I need to take a look into this. I have chase 15yr 3.25% loan
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07-15-2021 at 10:11 PM.
07-15-2021 at 10:11 PM.
Quote from mishra.rajul :
Chase offered you a lower rate without refinancing so that you don't go outside chase to explore the market. I can guarantee that you can get 2.4% rate outside chase today without any points and will get credit too
Jumbo??
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07-15-2021 at 10:47 PM.

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07-15-2021 at 10:47 PM.
This is simply a loan modification and they are more common than you might expect.

When you refi a mortgage to another lender, your current lender loses your monthly interest payment. Your lender wants to keep you, especially when you've owned your home for some time and/or it has appreciated in value...you are more likely to have equity in the home. More equity for you--much less risk of a default, but even if you did default, it is a loss that is protected by collateral. This is why a bank would do this. Same reason as a credit union or any other lender.

Most of the costs of a new mortgage loan or refi are commissions to the people processing the loan or refi. The cost to a bank to do a mod is much much less.

And...right now banks are paying very little (in many cases zero or almost zero) to access the capital they use to fund these loans. That results in lower rates. They can get their money cheaper than they used to be able to--so on balance yes, they will sometimes reduce your rate like this. If you are considering a re-fi, it always is worth the time to ask your lender if they'll consider a mod instead.
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07-15-2021 at 10:51 PM.
07-15-2021 at 10:51 PM.
Quote from zakster :
No, what they were doing was a loan modification that was hidden in the fine print. Loan modification will adversely impact credit.
There is no reason a loan mod will adversely impact your credit if you are paying on time and as agreed. If a mod happens because someone fell behind or something, then, it is the late payments that impact credit--not any resultant modification itself.
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pitt23fan
07-15-2021 at 11:06 PM.
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Quote from KaatuPaadi :
Called mortgage recast
Wrong...this isn't even close to a mortgage recast.
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07-15-2021 at 11:23 PM.
07-15-2021 at 11:23 PM.
Quote from rking0122 :
There is no reason a loan mod will adversely impact your credit if you are paying on time and as agreed. If a mod happens because someone fell behind or something, then, it is the late payments that impact credit--not any resultant modification itself.
I'm writing what I read in the fine print of the agreement and confirmed with the loan company who also told me the same thing.
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07-16-2021 at 01:41 AM.
07-16-2021 at 01:41 AM.
Most mortgage lenders do this, especially for people who've paid a fair amount on their mortgage. This is so you won't switch to a different lender/bank. You're not saving on appraisal fees, because they're not necessary for a streamline refinance. The only way they would do another appraisal is if you're looking for cash out of it, in which case they have to determine how much cash you qualify for, which means they need to know the difference between what you owe and what the home is worth.
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07-16-2021 at 05:37 AM.
07-16-2021 at 05:37 AM.
Quote from mishra.rajul :
No points. I actually got $2700 in credits too for 2.625
Not sure what is non-refi adjustment

Which lender?
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07-16-2021 at 05:46 AM.
07-16-2021 at 05:46 AM.
Quote from rking0122 :
This is simply a loan modification and they are more common than you might expect.

When you refi a mortgage to another lender, your current lender loses your monthly interest payment. Your lender wants to keep you, especially when you've owned your home for some time and/or it has appreciated in value...you are more likely to have equity in the home. More equity for you--much less risk of a default, but even if you did default, it is a loss that is protected by collateral. This is why a bank would do this. Same reason as a credit union or any other lender.

Most of the costs of a new mortgage loan or refi are commissions to the people processing the loan or refi. The cost to a bank to do a mod is much much less.

And...right now banks are paying very little (in many cases zero or almost zero) to access the capital they use to fund these loans. That results in lower rates. They can get their money cheaper than they used to be able to--so on balance yes, they will sometimes reduce your rate like this. If you are considering a re-fi, it always is worth the time to ask your lender if they'll consider a mod instead.
thanks for the reply!

So I have chase, can you recommend me what I should ask when I call the customer service? Should I say i am requesting 'pay-out' amount so they get the signal or be straight up and ask for home loan modification (is that the right term to use?)
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hd50hd
07-16-2021 at 05:47 AM.
07-16-2021 at 05:47 AM.
credit ding and of course also! NO access to the 20% equity build up over last months! and also add principal paydowns! free insurance for " bank " @ these "low rates"
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chucktaylur
07-16-2021 at 06:46 AM.
07-16-2021 at 06:46 AM.
I have a mortgage with Chase @ 4.65% over 30 years thats 7 years in. I plan on selling within the next 3 years so I dont want to refinance. Can I just go into Chase and ask for a lower rate without refinancing?
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