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YMMV - Chase mortgage interest reduction without refi (Jumbo ~2.875% 30yr fixed) $995

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Thought I'd give the community a heads up, while going through a refi through Chase (also my current lender), I was offered a separate program to adjust my interest rate without the need to go through underwriting. I am currently at Jumbo Loan 30 year 3.5%, and they offered me 2.875% with a single payment of $995 origination fee. Change will be reflected by Aug.

2.875% is the same quote that I received from Chase to go through a refi (unless you are a Chase Private Client, you may be eligible for additional 1/8 - 1/2 point reduction by bringing in new money).

The benefit of this program is that it eliminate the need for
  • Appraisal (~$600 in NorCal)
  • Credit check ($25)
  • Title Insurance ($900)
  • Closing fee ($450)
  • Fee fees aka misc. fees… (~$500)
But the biggest benefit is that you do not need to restart your 30 year fixed loan all over again. Kind of a no brainer, but they did say this is a targeted program. I'd recommend reaching out to your current Chase Mortgage Advisor to see if you also qualify! Good luck!
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Created 07-15-2021 at 05:10 PM by funkaboo
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pullmyfinger
07-16-2021 at 07:43 AM.
07-16-2021 at 07:43 AM.
This is pretty huge for chase customers who are 7 or more years into their 30 yr mortgage. Because of the amortization schedule, you pay the most interest to principal ratio the first few years of your 30 yr mortgage, the ability to lower rate AND keeping the same amortization schedule without starting over with new refi is pretty huge for those who are able to take advantage
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pidass15
07-16-2021 at 07:52 AM.
07-16-2021 at 07:52 AM.
I don't have chase but curious if I could attempt this with my lender (BoA), how would I approach it? Ask for loan modification direct or what's the secret codeword that I can start the process?
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rking0122
07-16-2021 at 08:13 AM.
07-16-2021 at 08:13 AM.
Quote from nba2k18 :
thanks for the reply!

So I have chase, can you recommend me what I should ask when I call the customer service? Should I say i am requesting 'pay-out' amount so they get the signal or be straight up and ask for home loan modification (is that the right term to use?)

I'd find one of their mortgage folks as opposed to regular customer service. I'd just let them know you are considering refinancing with another lender but wanted to ask if they have the ability to adjust your loan with them to save the hassle of a full refi. I might even show them this thread if they happen to say they don't know what you're talking about.

It may depend on your state, circumstances, and Chase's current programs.

There are also different options that make refis easier based on the type of loan you have no matter who the "lender" is. For instance there's a FHA "streamline" or other programs for loans that are owned by Fannie Mae…it's pretty situational.
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KaatuPaadi
07-16-2021 at 08:18 AM.
07-16-2021 at 08:18 AM.
Quote from pitt23fan :
Wrong...this isn't even close to a mortgage recast.
Recast but allows APR change which doesn't happen with recast
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deepanvee
07-16-2021 at 08:30 AM.
07-16-2021 at 08:30 AM.
Thanks. I know some lenders do this. I have a loan with Third federal and do this " rate relock" with them all the time. I had 5 ARM with them and I have done rate relock many times so my 5 yrs keeps starting new ( same concept like you said except its ARM product) so my original loan with Third federal started 3 yrs ago and I just did another relock so my 5 yrs ARM turned into 8 yrs ARM with lower rate on top of it ( from 3.5% to 2.74% now)
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nba2k18
07-16-2021 at 08:36 AM.
07-16-2021 at 08:36 AM.
Quote from deepanvee :
Thanks. I know some lenders do this. I have a loan with Third federal and do this " rate relock" with them all the time. I had 5 ARM with them and I have done rate relock many times so my 5 yrs keeps starting new ( same concept like you said except its ARM product) so my original loan with Third federal started 3 yrs ago and I just did another relock so my 5 yrs ARM turned into 8 yrs ARM with lower rate on top of it ( from 3.5% to 2.74% now)
but now you're locked addtional 3 years with 2.74% which in essence you are paying new interest charges on LMAO they won.
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pitt23fan
07-16-2021 at 09:03 AM.
07-16-2021 at 09:03 AM.
Quote from KaatuPaadi :
Recast but allows APR change which doesn't happen with recast
No matter what way you word it, it IS NOT A RECAST.
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07-16-2021 at 09:31 AM.
07-16-2021 at 09:31 AM.
Quote from nba2k18 :
but now you're locked addtional 3 years with 2.75% which in essence you are paying new interest charges on they won.
Not really.... You are always paying interest on the principal borrowed with nothing stopping you from paying principal early to save interest.

ARM's can be dangerous. Should the housing market take a dump, which historically is highly likely, you could easily be upside down when due and no place to go while saving very little on interest.

Me, I would rather have a locked in 30 year mortgage at close to the same rate, that like government, I am paying with cheaper dollars in the future with the option of paying on principal early. Get an amortization schedule and view monthly principal and interest.... many could have wiped months or more of payments off with their so called stimulus checks in the early part of a 30 year mortgage.

I just look at 3% or less as cheap money even on a refinance with same mortgage holder to pull equity if you have some other avenue of putting it to use to beat the ongoing debasement of currency.... like maybe more real estate.

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KaatuPaadi
07-16-2021 at 09:41 AM.
07-16-2021 at 09:41 AM.
Quote from pitt23fan :
No matter what way you word it, it IS NOT A RECAST.
OK. Recast with no APR change and No additional money to be paid for principal
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mitchflorida
07-16-2021 at 09:58 AM.
07-16-2021 at 09:58 AM.
Quote from JMBauer74 :
Most mortgage lenders do this, especially for people who've paid a fair amount on their mortgage. This is so you won't switch to a different lender/bank. You're not saving on appraisal fees, because they're not necessary for a streamline refinance. The only way they would do another appraisal is if you're looking for cash out of it, in which case they have to determine how much cash you qualify for, which means they need to know the difference between what you owe and what the home is worth.
Most mortgage lenders DON'T do this. Especially BofA.
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JayT1528
07-16-2021 at 10:04 AM.
07-16-2021 at 10:04 AM.
Deleted...saw this was asked already
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keanefan72
07-16-2021 at 10:08 AM.
07-16-2021 at 10:08 AM.
Quote from zakster :
No, what they were doing was a loan modification that was hidden in the fine print. Loan modification will adversely impact credit.

So what if it dings your credit? If you pay your bills on time, your credit score will go right back up in a few months. I don't know why people freak out over their score dropping 5-10 points. Unless they don't pay on time.
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JMBauer74
07-16-2021 at 10:12 AM.
07-16-2021 at 10:12 AM.
Quote from mitchflorida :
Most mortgage lenders DON'T do this. Especially BofA.
Actually they do. They may not for you because you didn't know.
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mitchflorida
07-16-2021 at 10:25 AM.
07-16-2021 at 10:25 AM.
Quote from JMBauer74 :
Actually they do. They may not for you because you didn't know.
I asked them a couple of times, dummy.
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slicklorey
07-16-2021 at 10:34 AM.
07-16-2021 at 10:34 AM.
So who do you guys talk to? Is it a chase mortgage banker ? Or some special role?

And what do you say? Do you say I am refinancing with another bank but want to know if you can adjust my current interest rate without refinancing?
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