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YMMV - Chase mortgage interest reduction without refi (Jumbo ~2.875% 30yr fixed) $995

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Thought I'd give the community a heads up, while going through a refi through Chase (also my current lender), I was offered a separate program to adjust my interest rate without the need to go through underwriting. I am currently at Jumbo Loan 30 year 3.5%, and they offered me 2.875% with a single payment of $995 origination fee. Change will be reflected by Aug.

2.875% is the same quote that I received from Chase to go through a refi (unless you are a Chase Private Client, you may be eligible for additional 1/8 - 1/2 point reduction by bringing in new money).

The benefit of this program is that it eliminate the need for
  • Appraisal (~$600 in NorCal)
  • Credit check ($25)
  • Title Insurance ($900)
  • Closing fee ($450)
  • Fee fees aka misc. fees… (~$500)
But the biggest benefit is that you do not need to restart your 30 year fixed loan all over again. Kind of a no brainer, but they did say this is a targeted program. I'd recommend reaching out to your current Chase Mortgage Advisor to see if you also qualify! Good luck!
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bugelrex
07-16-2021 at 10:44 AM.
07-16-2021 at 10:44 AM.
Quote from slicklorey :
So who do you guys talk to? Is it a chase mortgage banker ? Or some special role?

And what do you say? Do you say I am refinancing with another bank but want to know if you can adjust my current interest rate without refinancing?
Trying to figure out also. I think we need to start the refi online and then request when you speak to loan officer?
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acong
07-16-2021 at 11:06 AM.
07-16-2021 at 11:06 AM.
I just spoke to the Chase Home Lending Advisor who handled my mortgage last time. She said I need to receive the letter first in order to get this offer. The problem is that I throw away so many letters like this that look like advertisement.
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rking0122
07-16-2021 at 11:09 AM.
07-16-2021 at 11:09 AM.
Quote from pitt23fan :
No matter what way you word it, it IS NOT A RECAST.
Quote from KaatuPaadi :
OK. Recast with no APR change and No additional money to be paid for principal
This isn't recast at all.

A mortgage recast or loan recast is when a borrower pays a large sum toward their mortgage's principal, resulting in the lender recalculating the loan based on the new balance. Your lender will create a new amortization schedule when your loan is recalculated.
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rking0122
07-16-2021 at 11:12 AM.
07-16-2021 at 11:12 AM.
For those who don't seem to think this kind of thing happens much, it does more than you think. It isn't new. YMMV of course and is very situational. But it never hurts to ask. Lenders, especially the folks making commission on these refis will steer you that way if they can because they want you to pay those costs.

https://www.thetruthaboutmortgage...financing/
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Examiner44
07-16-2021 at 01:21 PM.
07-16-2021 at 01:21 PM.
I called Chase Mortgage customer service today to inquire about this. She said my account is not eligible for this program. The accounts that are eligible are flagged in their system as eligible. I asked what the eligibility criteria was but she didn't know.

I have excellent credit, all mortgage payments made on time, and LTV is below 50%. I'm curious what kind of eligibility criteria they have fir this program.
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JMBauer74
07-16-2021 at 01:40 PM.
07-16-2021 at 01:40 PM.
Quote from mitchflorida :
I asked them a couple of times, dummy.
You asked one mortgage lender and they told you "no", so that must mean nobody else does it? So they were okay with you switching to a different mortgage company?

If it's a major lender, they're not going to give up their customer if they know they can keep them because it's not their money they're lending you. Unless it's a very high dollar properly, it's funded by FNMA, FHLMC, or GNMA. If your mortgage bank lets you go to someone else, then all they're doing is giving up the interest. That is unless you're high risk and don't pay your bills on time. Smaller lending companies may also sell your account so they can turn quick $ and apply their resources to new mortgages.
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pitt23fan
07-16-2021 at 03:37 PM.
07-16-2021 at 03:37 PM.
Quote from rking0122 :
This isn't recast at all.

A mortgage recast or loan recast is when a borrower pays a large sum toward their mortgage's principal, resulting in the lender recalculating the loan based on the new balance. Your lender will create a new amortization schedule when your loan is recalculated.
I didn't feel like telling him...lol Also the recast puts you back on your payment schedule.

Example: I'm 3 years into my 30 year mortgage, but I only have 17 years left currently. If I recast, I'm back to 27 years. While this scenario is just lowering the interest without extending your payment schedule.
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chucktaylur
07-17-2021 at 07:43 AM.
07-17-2021 at 07:43 AM.
What wording to you use to ask about this?
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nghy9700
07-17-2021 at 01:53 PM.
07-17-2021 at 01:53 PM.
30 years term. You just need 1 extra payment every year, you will finish your loan by 23 years. Throw extra cash to your principal, bank doesn't like it. That save you more than refi. I did 2 or 3 payment extra every years, bank keep looking for me and try so hard to offer refi. I have 30 years, last 7 years I did 14 sometime 15 every year, if I keep doing that I will done less than 10 years. I cut off a lot interest. Just login to your loan and do your math, extra $100 every month, you will see how much you save.
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happygooddeal
07-21-2021 at 08:40 AM.
07-21-2021 at 08:40 AM.
Chase sold my mortgage loan to Union bank >
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KrustyVT
07-21-2021 at 09:02 AM.
07-21-2021 at 09:02 AM.
While this is a decent offer for Chase clients who are eligible, if you are able to move assets around there are better deals to be had with a refinance.

As an example, I have a 30 year jumbo in California that we're in the process of refinancing with Wells Fargo, who offered 2.375% @ 0 points with a new banking relationship.
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jojan1
07-21-2021 at 09:58 AM.
07-21-2021 at 09:58 AM.
Quote from KrustyVT :
While this is a decent offer for Chase clients who are eligible, if you are able to move assets around there are better deals to be had with a refinance.

As an example, I have a 30 year jumbo in California that we're in the process of refinancing with Wells Fargo, who offered 2.375% @ 0 points with a new banking relationship.

wow great deal!!!

how much total out of pocket for closing costs?
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KrustyVT
07-21-2021 at 10:32 AM.
07-21-2021 at 10:32 AM.
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wow great deal!!!

how much total out of pocket for closing costs?
They do charge a "processing" fee ($1630 in my case) for the loan, and I expect it will be about $3500-$4000 in closing costs when all is said and done. I'll use the same title company from the original home purchase, which should result in a discount on the title costs.
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JoeySD
07-21-2021 at 10:48 AM.
07-21-2021 at 10:48 AM.
Quote from rking0122 :
This is simply a loan modification and they are more common than you might expect.

When you refi a mortgage to another lender, your current lender loses your monthly interest payment. Your lender wants to keep you, especially when you've owned your home for some time and/or it has appreciated in value...you are more likely to have equity in the home. More equity for you--much less risk of a default, but even if you did default, it is a loss that is protected by collateral. This is why a bank would do this. Same reason as a credit union or any other lender.

Most of the costs of a new mortgage loan or refi are commissions to the people processing the loan or refi. The cost to a bank to do a mod is much much less.

And...right now banks are paying very little (in many cases zero or almost zero) to access the capital they use to fund these loans. That results in lower rates. They can get their money cheaper than they used to be able to--so on balance yes, they will sometimes reduce your rate like this. If you are considering a re-fi, it always is worth the time to ask your lender if they'll consider a mod instead.
So doing a modification of the loan instead a full refinance does that mean you don't need to go thorough the full documents and provide income statements, bank statements, DTI calculation, etc. to make sure you qualify for the loan? Also if say you have 20 years left on your current 30 year loan will still stay at 20 years left with lower interest rate?
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dpid
07-21-2021 at 10:58 AM.
07-21-2021 at 10:58 AM.
so something else to consider, but Chase sent me a overnight fedex envelope with an offer late December 2020. It basically said they would refi my current Chase mortgage at 3.75% to the new 30 year at 2.625%, with no closing costs. no legal, no appraisal fees.

Yea, my 30 year mortgage restarted, but I was only 5 years in and just used the principal balance owed as my refi amount. Easy to work with and notary came to our building to get signatures when we closed.

Seems Chase had different programs for different customers.
(I have Sapphire Checking, but am not a private client)
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