Model: Ortho Home Defense Insect Killer for Indoor & Perimeter2 Ready-To-Use - With Trigger Sprayer, Long-Lasting Control, Kills Ants, Cockroaches, Spiders, Fleas & Ticks, Non-Staining, Odor Free, 1 gal.
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Ants are everywhere where I live. Why I hope this put down the perimeter and keep them out. But it didn't work on my ants. I spray on the ants and all around where I find them, they wait til dry and just continue. The one that got spray on also wait til dry and continue.
Decent stuff for the price, but there are better options out there. I switched to a 6% pyrethin spray this year and have been thoroughly impressed by the results. It's made from the extract of some Rhodesian flower so it's a natural product. Unlike most natural products, it works better than anything else I've ever used that is still legal (nothing works like Chlordane).
Something being natural does not make it good or better. Lead is natural but I would suggest not eating it.
I've been a landlord for 40 years. If you want to deal with ants use https://www.walmart.com/ip/TERRO-...4269595 it only works on sugar ants so add a drop of cooking oil and it will attract all ants and they take it to the nest and kills the whole nest. Place it at locations where the ants are seen. Generally effective for a year or more till a new colony finds you. If you don't want to pay $2/oz there are DIY instructions on the web for making this for pennies per gallon.
The comments about buying concentrate are dead on. when you pay $7 for a gallon of mixed spray you are paying $1 for the product and $6 for a gallon of water. tHe concentrate won't go bad in your lifetime. Just don't store it in temperature extremes.
Any pesticide you spray will be greatly diluted in the next rain. Consider granules a 50 LB bag at lowes is $10 or $20. Put it down in a dry season. Water it in and they may work for months depending on how much rain you get.
The best bet with any pest is products they take back to the nest and kill the whole colony.
Bifen should be longer lasting but also slower action with zeta cy, the second ingredient being more immediate. That said, concentrates and a $10 pump sprayer are a better value and easier on the hand.
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Bingo.
I treat the yard/perimeter of my house a couple times a year, probably takes 6-7 gallons each application; I use a 4 gal HF backpack sprayer[harborfreight.com] (works great) and Bifen XTS[domyown.com] concentrate. I might have spent $20 for that bottle 6-7 years ago and there's so much it will probably go bad before I'm able to use it all since such a tiny amount of the liquid is diluted. If you have a smaller area to treat then obviously just get a smaller sprayer[harborfreight.com]
The recommended dilution is 0.33 - 0.67 (1/3-2/3) oz per gallon. The bottle is 32 Oz (you can get a bigger bottle too), which means at the high dilution you could get 100 gallons out of it and the low dilution more like 50. Even if you pay the rate at the above link (around $50/qt), that's at most $1/gal and as low as $0.50/gal.
I forget where I got it from, but I live in CT and supposedly they're not supposed to ship to me, but I had no issue :shrug:
And the Bifen XTS is great - not a single bug in the house. In fact, I usually spray my foundation and in front of the garage I open the door and just spray the concrete, about a 1-2 ft wide stripe. I will literally find a line of dead bugs (beetles and ants mostly) that are about 2 feet into the garage - they walk over the Bifen stripe, and only get a short distance before they croak.
Note the above also applies to herbicide - I have a pretty big area of rock/patio to do a couple times a year - the largest area about 40-50 (2k sq ft), and I was originally using one of those gallon-sized integrated battery sprayer things - man it took so long and killed my back. So, I got another sprayer (2 gal liked above is about $15, always best to have separate sprayers so you don't risk killing your lawn) and some concentrate - MAN it's so much quicker - the sprayer does a MUCH wider swath and puts out a more even spray that it saves the herbicide too.
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This stuff does not work worth a damn. As others have said simply go get yourself the Bifenthren concentrate (I use Bifen IT Google it or look on Amazon) and a good pump or backpack sprayer. At the label's recommended rate a little goes a long way and it runs circles around this stuff. I sprayed a month ago and not a single spider has been caught in our pool since, it's pretty unbelievable.
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I bought Bifen XTS living in CT several years ago. Supposedly the restrictions were in place then so I don't know how I managed to get it
Yup, if you go through a lot of this Home Defense product, just save yourself some money and buy the more concentrated version (Bifen) from an online pest control store, ebay or amazon.
If you'll use it inside at all, get Bifen IT, which can also be used outside. If you use it outside only, get Bifen XTS, which has oil in it so it lasts longer. I use Bifen XTS for mosquitos and other insects in my yard, and one jug will likely last most people many years because it is so concentrated. You will need to have your own sprayer though.
I treat the yard/perimeter of my house a couple times a year, probably takes 6-7 gallons each application; I use a 4 gal HF backpack sprayer[harborfreight.com] (works great) and Bifen XTS[domyown.com] concentrate. I might have spent $20 for that bottle 6-7 years ago and there's so much it will probably go bad before I'm able to use it all since such a tiny amount of the liquid is diluted. If you have a smaller area to treat then obviously just get a smaller sprayer[harborfreight.com]
The recommended dilution is 0.33 - 0.67 (1/3-2/3) oz per gallon. The bottle is 32 Oz (you can get a bigger bottle too), which means at the high dilution you could get 100 gallons out of it and the low dilution more like 50. Even if you pay the rate at the above link (around $50/qt), that's at most $1/gal and as low as $0.50/gal.
I forget where I got it from, but I live in CT and supposedly they're not supposed to ship to me, but I had no issue :shrug:
And the Bifen XTS is great - not a single bug in the house. In fact, I usually spray my foundation and in front of the garage I open the door and just spray the concrete, about a 1-2 ft wide stripe. I will literally find a line of dead bugs (beetles and ants mostly) that are about 2 feet into the garage - they walk over the Bifen stripe, and only get a short distance before they croak.
Note the above also applies to herbicide - I have a pretty big area of rock/patio to do a couple times a year - the largest area about 40-50 (2k sq ft), and I was originally using one of those gallon-sized integrated battery sprayer things - man it took so long and killed my back. So, I got another sprayer (2 gal liked above is about $15, always best to have separate sprayers so you don't risk killing your lawn) and some concentrate - MAN it's so much quicker - the sprayer does a MUCH wider swath and puts out a more even spray that it saves the herbicide too.
I'm in TN, but have the exact same process as you. Will never go back to off the shelf ortho.
As an aside, if you have a crabgrass problem, buying the concentrate from doyourown with a surfactant is a game changer.
This stuff does not work worth a damn. As others have said simply go get yourself the Bifenthren concentrate (I use Bifen IT Google it or look on Amazon) and a good pump or backpack sprayer. At the label's recommended rate a little goes a long way and it runs circles around this stuff. I sprayed a month ago and not a single spider has been caught in our pool since, it's pretty unbelievable.
Same chemical and same concentration as generally recommended but adds zeta cy. I use a bit more concentrate than this or recommended but never had trouble with this either.
I do not understand people saying this does not work. I bought a new home a few years ago and noticed ants in the kitchen, basement and upstairs (like really ants, how the heck?). I got this and worked what I felt was fairly fast and then I keep using it around the perimeter and have had no problems since.
Check out Taurus SC for the gold standard of ant control. You spray it on the exterior perimeter of your home once in spring and it'll last through fall. The active ingredient in Home Defense and Bifen only lasts 2-4 weeks, so must be resprayed. Check out the online reviews for Taurus SC, which is slower acting and kills the whole colony when the ants walk through it and track it back to their nest. I'm in a northern climate, so I spray Taurus once in the spring and keeps ants out until the following spring. In a southern climate you may have to spray 2X per year. Residual effect should last at least 6 months.
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You never seen ants before that? LOL
Ants are everywhere where I live. Why I hope this put down the perimeter and keep them out. But it didn't work on my ants. I spray on the ants and all around where I find them, they wait til dry and just continue. The one that got spray on also wait til dry and continue.
The active ingredient in Home Defense and Bifen does not kill on contact. It's not like Raid. It may take up to 12 hours for it to kill the insect, so the ants that walked through your dried spray likely died a few hours later. But the benefit of it is that it has a residual effect, so it'll work for at least several weeks after you spray it.
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I bought 1 qt from here:
https://www.solutionsst
Cost me $22 in 2017, now sells for about $40.
It didnt do so for me. Or at least it didnt seem to. They came back in a week.
Ants are everywhere where I live. Why I hope this put down the perimeter and keep them out. But it didn't work on my ants. I spray on the ants and all around where I find them, they wait til dry and just continue. The one that got spray on also wait til dry and continue.
The comments about buying concentrate are dead on. when you pay $7 for a gallon of mixed spray you are paying $1 for the product and $6 for a gallon of water. tHe concentrate won't go bad in your lifetime. Just don't store it in temperature extremes.
Any pesticide you spray will be greatly diluted in the next rain. Consider granules a 50 LB bag at lowes is $10 or $20. Put it down in a dry season. Water it in and they may work for months depending on how much rain you get.
The best bet with any pest is products they take back to the nest and kill the whole colony.
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I treat the yard/perimeter of my house a couple times a year, probably takes 6-7 gallons each application; I use a 4 gal HF backpack sprayer [harborfreight.com] (works great) and Bifen XTS [domyown.com] concentrate. I might have spent $20 for that bottle 6-7 years ago and there's so much it will probably go bad before I'm able to use it all since such a tiny amount of the liquid is diluted. If you have a smaller area to treat then obviously just get a smaller sprayer [harborfreight.com]
The recommended dilution is 0.33 - 0.67 (1/3-2/3) oz per gallon. The bottle is 32 Oz (you can get a bigger bottle too), which means at the high dilution you could get 100 gallons out of it and the low dilution more like 50. Even if you pay the rate at the above link (around $50/qt), that's at most $1/gal and as low as $0.50/gal.
I forget where I got it from, but I live in CT and supposedly they're not supposed to ship to me, but I had no issue :shrug:
And the Bifen XTS is great - not a single bug in the house. In fact, I usually spray my foundation and in front of the garage I open the door and just spray the concrete, about a 1-2 ft wide stripe. I will literally find a line of dead bugs (beetles and ants mostly) that are about 2 feet into the garage - they walk over the Bifen stripe, and only get a short distance before they croak.
Note the above also applies to herbicide - I have a pretty big area of rock/patio to do a couple times a year - the largest area about 40-50 (2k sq ft), and I was originally using one of those gallon-sized integrated battery sprayer things - man it took so long and killed my back. So, I got another sprayer (2 gal liked above is about $15, always best to have separate sprayers so you don't risk killing your lawn) and some concentrate - MAN it's so much quicker - the sprayer does a MUCH wider swath and puts out a more even spray that it saves the herbicide too.
I bought 1 qt from here:
https://www.solutionsst
Cost me $22 in 2017, now sells for about $40.
If you'll use it inside at all, get Bifen IT, which can also be used outside. If you use it outside only, get Bifen XTS, which has oil in it so it lasts longer. I use Bifen XTS for mosquitos and other insects in my yard, and one jug will likely last most people many years because it is so concentrated. You will need to have your own sprayer though.
I treat the yard/perimeter of my house a couple times a year, probably takes 6-7 gallons each application; I use a 4 gal HF backpack sprayer [harborfreight.com] (works great) and Bifen XTS [domyown.com] concentrate. I might have spent $20 for that bottle 6-7 years ago and there's so much it will probably go bad before I'm able to use it all since such a tiny amount of the liquid is diluted. If you have a smaller area to treat then obviously just get a smaller sprayer [harborfreight.com]
The recommended dilution is 0.33 - 0.67 (1/3-2/3) oz per gallon. The bottle is 32 Oz (you can get a bigger bottle too), which means at the high dilution you could get 100 gallons out of it and the low dilution more like 50. Even if you pay the rate at the above link (around $50/qt), that's at most $1/gal and as low as $0.50/gal.
I forget where I got it from, but I live in CT and supposedly they're not supposed to ship to me, but I had no issue :shrug:
And the Bifen XTS is great - not a single bug in the house. In fact, I usually spray my foundation and in front of the garage I open the door and just spray the concrete, about a 1-2 ft wide stripe. I will literally find a line of dead bugs (beetles and ants mostly) that are about 2 feet into the garage - they walk over the Bifen stripe, and only get a short distance before they croak.
Note the above also applies to herbicide - I have a pretty big area of rock/patio to do a couple times a year - the largest area about 40-50 (2k sq ft), and I was originally using one of those gallon-sized integrated battery sprayer things - man it took so long and killed my back. So, I got another sprayer (2 gal liked above is about $15, always best to have separate sprayers so you don't risk killing your lawn) and some concentrate - MAN it's so much quicker - the sprayer does a MUCH wider swath and puts out a more even spray that it saves the herbicide too.
As an aside, if you have a crabgrass problem, buying the concentrate from doyourown with a surfactant is a game changer.
Ants are everywhere where I live. Why I hope this put down the perimeter and keep them out. But it didn't work on my ants. I spray on the ants and all around where I find them, they wait til dry and just continue. The one that got spray on also wait til dry and continue.
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Thank You, didn't know you're specifically mentioning the concentrate from that brand.