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Model: Western Digital Red WD40EFAX 4 TB Hard Drive - 3.5" Internal - SATA (SATA/600) - Storage System Device Supported - 5400rpm - 180 TB TBW - 3 Year Warra

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Sep 02, 2021 09:26 AM
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oh_dannyboySep 02, 2021 09:26 AM
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This is a SMR drive. Don't use these in NAS. Might be ok in desktops depending on your usage behavior.
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Sep 02, 2021 09:44 AM
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frettSep 02, 2021 09:44 AM
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I've been tracking hard drive prices and production. Hang in there a little longer... WD is sitting on unsold inventory trying to squeak as much profit as possible before Chia tanks completely. I think you'll see CMR 4TB drives at this price by Feb or March. The PC market is being artificially propped up in several areas and it won't last.
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Sep 02, 2021 09:49 AM
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frettSep 02, 2021 09:49 AM
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Quote from oh_dannyboy :
This is a SMR drive. Don't use these in NAS. Might be ok in desktops depending on your usage behavior.
Everyone I know that has settled for an SMR drive has said, Oh I don't care. I don't write much data.... Etc.

But then at some point I hear them complaining because some app or game they're using is super slow and turns out they needed faster write speeds after all.

It's like buying a pickup truck without 4WD. You might not need it normally, but when you do, you feel silly buying a truck without it.
Sep 02, 2021 09:57 AM
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ketamineSep 02, 2021 09:57 AM
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If only I could use both coupons (10% GPay).
Sep 03, 2021 04:56 AM
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TalentedHaddock257Sep 03, 2021 04:56 AM
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Quote from frett :
Everyone I know that has settled for an SMR drive has said, Oh I don't care. I don't write much data.... Etc.

But then at some point I hear them complaining because some app or game they're using is super slow and turns out they needed faster write speeds after all.

It's like buying a pickup truck without 4WD. You might not need it normally, but when you do, you feel silly buying a truck without it.
SMR is OK for cold storage, think of it as a tape device, and you'll do fine.

Beyond that - no. It's a clever idea that is similar to TLC/QLC with SLC buffer, but slowdown is way too much. Just say no Smilie
Sep 03, 2021 01:00 PM
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ansonvsSep 03, 2021 01:00 PM
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Quote from oh_dannyboy :
This is a SMR drive. Don't use these in NAS. Might be ok in desktops depending on your usage behavior.
It's a NAS and don't use in NAS? Non sense.
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Sep 03, 2021 02:05 PM
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Evan55Sep 03, 2021 02:05 PM
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The benchmarks show that SMR isnt really all that bad...... except in very large file writes or RAID rebuilds.
https://www.servethehome.com/wd-r...red-smr/2/

So yeah this is a pretty awful NAS drive despite it being labelled as such

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Sep 03, 2021 03:01 PM
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hieuhefSep 03, 2021 03:01 PM
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Quote from ansonvs :
It's a NAS and don't use in NAS? Non sense.
It's not great for NAS. The Red Plus is what you should use for NAS, they've gimped their lineup and are trying to use an inferior product in a segment that it doesn't belong in.

https://www.servethehome.com/wd-r...red-smr/2/
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Unfortunately, while the SMR WD Red performed respectably in the previous benchmarks, the RAIDZ resilver test proved to be another matter entirely. While all three CMR drives comfortably completed the resilver in under 17 hours, the SMR drive took nearly 230 hours to perform an identical task.
Sep 04, 2021 05:14 AM
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carwash1976Sep 04, 2021 05:14 AM
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hmm from Newegg. Will these explode under high read/write load?
Sep 04, 2021 05:30 AM
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nosurprisesplsSep 04, 2021 05:30 AM
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Quote from carwash1976 :
hmm from Newegg. Will these explode under high read/write load?
no; under heavy load, it will run like a turtle šŸ¢

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