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I meant to comment on this individually to clarify the attempted misinformation spread by the person you quoted. There is nothing called a "chip drive"
There are many different types of SSD's, and I will be leaving some out, but the most common types are:
External: These can vary in size and shape, but they all typically have a USB A or USB C interface. As the name implies, these are for use outside of a computer.
SATA: The same as OP, These have a 2.5" drive form factor and SATA data and power interfaces. These are often the slowest of SSD drives mainly because of the bandwidth limitations of SATA.
NVME: These socket directly into a motherboard or PCIe riser card. They have an m.2 form factor with an M key. These are typically the fastest of consumer SSDs, as they use 4 PCIe lanes for their bandwidth, though they do use a dedicated m.2 slot. See the next one for compatibility issues. See key image
SATA m.2: These are some of the more confusing consumer SSDs. They have basically the same form factor and interface of NVME drives, but they use SATA instead of PCIe. They often will fit and work in the same m.2 socket, but for either SATA m.2 or NVME, you'll want to check your system's documentation to see what is compatible. SATA m.2 has B+M key. See key image
PCIe: These have mostly fallen out of fashion, but still worth noting. They are simply SSDs built into a PCIe expansion card. The number of lanes they use will vary.
U.2: These aren't really consumer grade, but worth mentioning. These use a cable so they can mount in drive bays similar to SATA drives, but the interface is much faster, and uses PCIe lanes similar to m.2. They are usually 2.5" or 3.5" drives. You usually only find headers for these on server/workstation boards or some HEDT boards.
Please don't do that, or at least don't teach other people to do it.
Nobody else calls NVME drives "chip" drives, and with good reason. It's a misnomer at best. All SSDs are "chip" drives, as they have controller chips and NAND chips, sometimes even DRAM chips. The difference between a SATA drive and an NVME drive has nothing to do with "chips", it has to do with the physical interface and to a lesser extent the form factor.
Dont get me wrong, good deal but you may be able to find a chip drive that will provide much faster speeds for around same price, if not the same it wouldn't be much more maybe 10-15 bucks...
I'd recommend going that route for about double the transfer speeds you would see with this budget drive. If it was 60 bucks or so I would consider this a better bargain...
Crucial MX500 1TB was $85 a month back. I'm waiting for that deal to return.
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Please enlighten the uniformed. What's a chip drive? How does one distinguish it from this deal?
Nvme style. Only there are a few different types so i refer to them as chip drives because they dont have a casing like standard style sata drives... They also typically plug directly into the motherboard.
Please don't do that, or at least don't teach other people to do it.
Nobody else calls NVME drives "chip" drives, and with good reason. It's a misnomer at best. All SSDs are "chip" drives, as they have controller chips and NAND chips, sometimes even DRAM chips. The difference between a SATA drive and an NVME drive has nothing to do with "chips", it has to do with the physical interface and to a lesser extent the form factor.
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Please enlighten the uniformed. What's a chip drive? How does one distinguish it from this deal?
I meant to comment on this individually to clarify the attempted misinformation spread by the person you quoted. There is nothing called a "chip drive"
There are many different types of SSD's, and I will be leaving some out, but the most common types are:
External: These can vary in size and shape, but they all typically have a USB A or USB C interface. As the name implies, these are for use outside of a computer.
SATA: The same as OP, These have a 2.5" drive form factor and SATA data and power interfaces. These are often the slowest of SSD drives mainly because of the bandwidth limitations of SATA.
NVME: These socket directly into a motherboard or PCIe riser card. They have an m.2 form factor with an M key. These are typically the fastest of consumer SSDs, as they use 4 PCIe lanes for their bandwidth, though they do use a dedicated m.2 slot. See the next one for compatibility issues. See key image
SATA m.2: These are some of the more confusing consumer SSDs. They have basically the same form factor and interface of NVME drives, but they use SATA instead of PCIe. They often will fit and work in the same m.2 socket, but for either SATA m.2 or NVME, you'll want to check your system's documentation to see what is compatible. SATA m.2 has B+M key. See key image
PCIe: These have mostly fallen out of fashion, but still worth noting. They are simply SSDs built into a PCIe expansion card. The number of lanes they use will vary.
U.2: These aren't really consumer grade, but worth mentioning. These use a cable so they can mount in drive bays similar to SATA drives, but the interface is much faster, and uses PCIe lanes similar to m.2. They are usually 2.5" or 3.5" drives. You usually only find headers for these on server/workstation boards or some HEDT boards.
Having dealt with people for whom I'm trying to build/upgrade/troubleshoot a system, dealing with some weird nomenclature they've either invented themselves or heard from someone who pretends to know something can often be frustrating. Instead of describing what they are talking about, they insist on repeatedly calling something by the wrong term. By the time I figure out what the hell they are talking about, they're mad at me because I couldn't decipher their made-up language.
When I saw that post, I had flashbacks of explaining the difference between a "NIC" and a "Broadband Modem." He refused to believe that the card inside his PC was a NIC, and that his modem was that box that he plugs the coax cable and ethernet cable into. He insisted that was his Gateway. I said something like, "Well, your particular model sounds like it's your Gateway, your Router, your Modem, and your Switch... But that doesn't change the fact that this card in your PC is a Network Interface Card." ... At the end of the day, I was still helping him for free because Time Warner just needed to replace his faulty modem/router, but that conversation wasted about 15 to 20 minutes of my life, and it's just the one that sticks out.
Having dealt with people for whom I'm trying to build/upgrade/troubleshoot a system, dealing with some weird nomenclature they've either invented themselves or heard from someone who pretends to know something can often be frustrating. Instead of describing what they are talking about, they insist on repeatedly calling something by the wrong term. By the time I figure out what the hell they are talking about, they're mad at me because I couldn't decipher their made-up language.
When I saw that post, I had flashbacks of explaining the difference between a "NIC" and a "Broadband Modem." He refused to believe that the card inside his PC was a NIC, and that his modem was that box that he plugs the coax cable and ethernet cable into. He insisted that was his Gateway. I said something like, "Well, your particular model sounds like it's your Gateway, your Router, your Modem, and your Switch... But that doesn't change the fact that this card in your PC is a Network Interface Card." ... At the end of the day, I was still helping him for free because Time Warner just needed to replace his faulty modem/router, but that conversation wasted about 15 to 20 minutes of my life, and it's just the one that sticks out.
As someone who's worked professionally in a support position in the past, I agree with everything you're saying here. Repped.
Can you put these inside MacBook Airs? (Hopefully not a dumb question)
No MacBook Air is thick enough to support a 2.5" drive. You would need an NVMe drive with an adapter for the proprietary Apple connector, if it's even possible to replace on your model.
You can check Other World Computing's site for more info and help with your upgrade. They sell a number of SSDs with the adapter built-in: https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/ssd/owc
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... Instead of describing what they are talking about, they insist on repeatedly calling something by the wrong term...
I've worked for more than 15 years in an office with a client-facing tech support department that still refers to computer towers as "hard drives". Accordingly, our clients either have 1) a laptop, or 2) a hard drive and a monitor.
I have to assume this is some weird custom that started in the non-tech-savvy world before my time, but it "drives" me bonkers every time I hear someone say it.
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I've worked for more than 15 years in an office with a client-facing tech support department that still refers to computer towers as "hard drives". Accordingly, our clients either have 1) a laptop, or 2) a hard drive and a monitor.
I have to assume this is some weird custom that started in the non-tech-savvy world before my time, but it "drives" me bonkers every time I hear someone say it.
funny story, i worked at officemax back in high school (20+ years ago). lady calls and says she was in the store and bought a computer but couldn't figure out where to plug the keyboard and mouse in. this was back in the day of ps2 connectors and they are colored green and purple. after a few minutes of trying to explain where they were and what they looked like, i asked her what model she bought. to double check on the machine where they were or maybe they weren't colored. she says "i got the 17 inch one". she only purchased the crt monitor.
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There are many different types of SSD's, and I will be leaving some out, but the most common types are:
External: These can vary in size and shape, but they all typically have a USB A or USB C interface. As the name implies, these are for use outside of a computer.
SATA: The same as OP, These have a 2.5" drive form factor and SATA data and power interfaces. These are often the slowest of SSD drives mainly because of the bandwidth limitations of SATA.
NVME: These socket directly into a motherboard or PCIe riser card. They have an m.2 form factor with an M key. These are typically the fastest of consumer SSDs, as they use 4 PCIe lanes for their bandwidth, though they do use a dedicated m.2 slot. See the next one for compatibility issues. See key image
SATA m.2: These are some of the more confusing consumer SSDs. They have basically the same form factor and interface of NVME drives, but they use SATA instead of PCIe. They often will fit and work in the same m.2 socket, but for either SATA m.2 or NVME, you'll want to check your system's documentation to see what is compatible. SATA m.2 has B+M key. See key image
PCIe: These have mostly fallen out of fashion, but still worth noting. They are simply SSDs built into a PCIe expansion card. The number of lanes they use will vary.
U.2: These aren't really consumer grade, but worth mentioning. These use a cable so they can mount in drive bays similar to SATA drives, but the interface is much faster, and uses PCIe lanes similar to m.2. They are usually 2.5" or 3.5" drives. You usually only find headers for these on server/workstation boards or some HEDT boards.
m.2 Key Image:
Nobody else calls NVME drives "chip" drives, and with good reason. It's a misnomer at best. All SSDs are "chip" drives, as they have controller chips and NAND chips, sometimes even DRAM chips. The difference between a SATA drive and an NVME drive has nothing to do with "chips", it has to do with the physical interface and to a lesser extent the form factor.
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I'd recommend going that route for about double the transfer speeds you would see with this budget drive. If it was 60 bucks or so I would consider this a better bargain...
Nobody else calls NVME drives "chip" drives, and with good reason. It's a misnomer at best. All SSDs are "chip" drives, as they have controller chips and NAND chips, sometimes even DRAM chips. The difference between a SATA drive and an NVME drive has nothing to do with "chips", it has to do with the physical interface and to a lesser extent the form factor.
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There are many different types of SSD's, and I will be leaving some out, but the most common types are:
External: These can vary in size and shape, but they all typically have a USB A or USB C interface. As the name implies, these are for use outside of a computer.
SATA: The same as OP, These have a 2.5" drive form factor and SATA data and power interfaces. These are often the slowest of SSD drives mainly because of the bandwidth limitations of SATA.
NVME: These socket directly into a motherboard or PCIe riser card. They have an m.2 form factor with an M key. These are typically the fastest of consumer SSDs, as they use 4 PCIe lanes for their bandwidth, though they do use a dedicated m.2 slot. See the next one for compatibility issues. See key image
SATA m.2: These are some of the more confusing consumer SSDs. They have basically the same form factor and interface of NVME drives, but they use SATA instead of PCIe. They often will fit and work in the same m.2 socket, but for either SATA m.2 or NVME, you'll want to check your system's documentation to see what is compatible. SATA m.2 has B+M key. See key image
PCIe: These have mostly fallen out of fashion, but still worth noting. They are simply SSDs built into a PCIe expansion card. The number of lanes they use will vary.
U.2: These aren't really consumer grade, but worth mentioning. These use a cable so they can mount in drive bays similar to SATA drives, but the interface is much faster, and uses PCIe lanes similar to m.2. They are usually 2.5" or 3.5" drives. You usually only find headers for these on server/workstation boards or some HEDT boards.
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Give him a break, he was on a roll, lol.
When I saw that post, I had flashbacks of explaining the difference between a "NIC" and a "Broadband Modem." He refused to believe that the card inside his PC was a NIC, and that his modem was that box that he plugs the coax cable and ethernet cable into. He insisted that was his Gateway. I said something like, "Well, your particular model sounds like it's your Gateway, your Router, your Modem, and your Switch... But that doesn't change the fact that this card in your PC is a Network Interface Card." ... At the end of the day, I was still helping him for free because Time Warner just needed to replace his faulty modem/router, but that conversation wasted about 15 to 20 minutes of my life, and it's just the one that sticks out.
When I saw that post, I had flashbacks of explaining the difference between a "NIC" and a "Broadband Modem." He refused to believe that the card inside his PC was a NIC, and that his modem was that box that he plugs the coax cable and ethernet cable into. He insisted that was his Gateway. I said something like, "Well, your particular model sounds like it's your Gateway, your Router, your Modem, and your Switch... But that doesn't change the fact that this card in your PC is a Network Interface Card." ... At the end of the day, I was still helping him for free because Time Warner just needed to replace his faulty modem/router, but that conversation wasted about 15 to 20 minutes of my life, and it's just the one that sticks out.
You can check Other World Computing's site for more info and help with your upgrade. They sell a number of SSDs with the adapter built-in: https://eshop.macsales.
I have to assume this is some weird custom that started in the non-tech-savvy world before my time, but it "drives" me bonkers every time I hear someone say it.
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I have to assume this is some weird custom that started in the non-tech-savvy world before my time, but it "drives" me bonkers every time I hear someone say it.
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