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Intel Core i7-12700K Alder Lake 3.6GHz Twelve-Core LGA 1700 Boxed Processor $399.99
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If youre building a new PC 12th gen is where its currently at, Zen 3 is no longer the recommended buy, unless AMD does significant price cuts.
https://www.intel.com/content/www...tions.htm
"Overall performance of the Core i7-12700K is very impressive given its positioning. The new processor is 15% faster than the previous-generation i7-11700K, 10% faster than AMD Ryzen 7 5800X and just 5% behind the more expensive Ryzen 9 5900X."
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Z690 is equivalent to X570, the price difference between the two cheapest boards on each platform is $20 on Newegg. Z690 is confirmed to support 13th gen and rumored to possibly support 14th gen. Meanwhile X570/AM4 is end of life, Zen 4 will move to a new platform in Q4 2022. Z690 also has more advantages, PCIe 5.0, USB 4/Thunderbolt 4, optional DDR5 support. 12th gen performance gains arent reliant on DDR5, so its not needed to buy a DDR5 board or DDR5 to have better performance than Zen 3.
If you arent interested in buying into a top end motherboard platform, B660 boards are launching at CES in the first week of January and will bring motherboard prices down another $50-$75.
And again the 12700k is better than the 5900x and $100 cheaper, thats plenty of wiggle room to buy a motherboard.
Intel worked close with MS for Windows 11 which is new and not smoothed out. Then the cpus fall in bewteen PCIe 4.0 and 5.0. Then there's DDR 5 due and that will be slower yet more expensive than peaked-out DDR4.
I'm glad Intel is back from the sidelines but I don't like power/heat hogs with vulnerabilities built in to squeak a few FPS in
Intel Confirms DRM Incompatibility Impacts Over 50 Games on 12th Gen Core 'Alder Lake' CPUs
https://gadgets.ndtv.co
If youre building a new PC 12th gen is where its currently at, Zen 3 is no longer the recommended buy, unless AMD does significant price cuts.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...en/20.html [techpowerup.com]
12th gen uses less power in gaming https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...-part-1/9/
And for productivity the 12700k uses less power than its competitor the 5900x https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...r-amd-2/9/
Though I do admit in productivity there are a couple mixed results, and the 12900k definitely needs more power than the 5950x to beat it in blender, but this thread is for the 12700k, and the people that truly need top tier productivity performance should buy Threadripper, not a mainstream CPU.
Intel worked close with MS for Windows 11 which is new and not smoothed out. Then the cpus fall in bewteen PCIe 4.0 and 5.0. Then there's DDR 5 due and that will be slower yet more expensive than peaked-out DDR4.
I'm glad Intel is back from the sidelines but I don't like power/heat hogs with vulnerabilities built in to squeak a few FPS in
Intel Confirms DRM Incompatibility Impacts Over 50 Games on 12th Gen Core 'Alder Lake' CPUs
https://gadgets.ndtv.com/laptops/...ed-2601325 [ndtv.com]
https://www.intel.com/content/www...ssors.htm
The CPU's support PCIe 5.0 on one lane, the other lanes are PCIe 4.0. Zen 3 only supports PCIe 4.0 and 3.0
12th gen supports DDR4, you dont need to buy DDR5 if you dont want to, its literally just an option.
And 12th gen actually uses less power than AMD in gaming and a fair bit of tasks. You only see bad reviewers reporting synthetic loads or max power blender tests for the 12900k, which admittedly the 12900k does use more power to beat the 5950x in belnder
https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...-part-1/9/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...r-amd-2/9/
https://www.intel.com/content/www...ssors.htm
The CPU's support PCIe 5.0 on one lane, the other lanes are PCIe 4.0. Zen 3 only supports PCIe 4.0 and 3.0
12th gen supports DDR4, you dont need to buy DDR5 if you dont want to, its literally just an option.
Care to point out a vulnerability with 12th gen? Youll make thousands if you can. Spectre and Meltdown were found because Intel had 90% of marketshare and thus every security researcher was looking at Intel for holes, they have since been fixed. Now that AMD has like 25% marketshare, researchers are now poking holes in AMD there is a long list of problems they have too https://www.google.com/search?cli...ur
And 12th gen actually uses less power than AMD in gaming and a fair bit of tasks. You only see bad reviewers reporting synthetic loads or max power blender tests for the 12900k, which admittedly the 12900k does use more power to beat the 5950x in belnder
https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...-part-1/9/
https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...r-amd-2/9/
https://www.intel.com/content/www...ssors.html [intel.com]
The CPU's support PCIe 5.0 on one lane, the other lanes are PCIe 4.0. Zen 3 only supports PCIe 4.0 and 3.0
12th gen supports DDR4, you dont need to buy DDR5 if you dont want to, its literally just an option.
Care to point out a vulnerability with 12th gen? Youll make thousands if you can. Spectre and Meltdown were found because Intel had 90% of marketshare and thus every security researcher was looking at Intel for holes, they have since been fixed. Now that AMD has like 25% marketshare, researchers are now poking holes in AMD there is a long list of problems they have too https://www.google.com/search?cli...urity+flaw [google.com] including its own meltdown like vulnerability https://www.tomshardware.com/news...mitigation [tomshardware.com]
And 12th gen actually uses less power than AMD in gaming and a fair bit of tasks. You only see bad reviewers reporting synthetic loads or max power blender tests for the 12900k, which admittedly the 12900k does use more power to beat the 5950x in belnder
https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...-part-1/9/ [igorslab.de]
https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-...r-amd-2/9/ [igorslab.de]
In fact, there is very little real fps difference between the top dozen cpus.The i7-12700K does 174.7 average fps in Cyberpunk and the 5900X does 173.2. Gaming benches don't differentiate much with high powered cpus.
As for hardware, I don't like variable interfaces - just more glitches. I also don't like the Intel's new chips need software to make cores interact with each other. Software is a window for exploits. I don't know if the new chips have exploits or not but knowing Intel I wouldn't gamble that they dont.
I wouldn't buy first issue of Ryzen because I knew it would be buggy. I wont buy the new socket that's due either. AM4 is mature and AMD has already begun its 5000 series chips with added 3D V-cache. The 5900X will come with 192 MB of cache instead.
The new Intels are also having issues with coolers. Good luck early adopters.
Intel Alder Lake gaming CPUs LGA 1700 socket creates cooling issues
https://www.pcgamesn.co