Sony EDU: Sony a7R IIIA Alpha Full Frame Mirrorless Camera Body $1718 (less w/ SD Cashback) & More at Buydig
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A7R V will be announced 2022, released 2023 probably north of $4000 (because the A7 IV increased the base price by $500). Due to chip shortage or other reason the first discounts show up thanksgiving 2024 or 2025, by that time the next A7 V will be around the corner to ruin the party with some other killer feature
I see $1558 for A7 III body only and $1668 for kit. Cheaper than elsewhere but still not the best deal, about $100 more than the lowest. The price for A7R III is the same.
Where did you see $1558? When they are usually put out the sale?
Looking at these posts, I am not the only one who is debating on these. I have been considering moving to FF for a long (have an APSC at this moment). Sony A7R IV was on the top list since last year and I have almost pulled the trigger on this.
I came to the conclusion that buying the latest camera model is good as the tech and software are upgraded. The menu itself is better in A7 IV with touch however the A7R has the old menu. Looks like there is a new one coming next year A7R V, which would be the best of both worlds, but then it's the never-ending story.
At this moment I am kind of closed on getting the A7 IV primarily because of the advancements in the camera overall. I will be missing the extra MP and more importantly the Viewfinder and Screen resolution among the others. The Pixel shift etc, I don't think I would have used anyway.
Yes, the A7R4 has more buffering than the R3, and that is one thing that makes the Sony weak as it doesnt have any independent memory. For me not so much the buffering, but when battery dies, the camera doesnt retain what setting you were just using. It goes back to what it was last time you turned it off. SO FRUSTRATING during a shoot. This is bad engineering, and a oversight. Although, you cant do anything while its buffering. I dont do sports or wildlife much, so that part for my use has not been a problem.
But if getting one of the Sony's as a upgrade, YES< I highly recommend the newer models with the new menu system. The Sony A7R3/4 menu system is almost as bad as using DOS on a PC from the 1980's. BUT, having the Custom buttons does help. Sony does a number of things to hit it out of the park as a great image maker, but not a camera maker. The sensor is top! the focus is very good with native lenses, and actually good and almost as good with non-sony, Canon glass. I would suggest what your gut is saying, either wait and save for the A7R5 or get the A74. If you need mpixels for print or crop, because you take blind random photos and then expect to find art in them by cropping, then , ya, get larger pixel count.
60mpixels will likely have you need a new computer system, and storage, as they add up REAL quick. But, those are upgradable. I mean if you went to school and you graduated and you want a shiny new camera for your "career" or art expression, get the best you can. If you worked for a photographer, interend and worked long enough, you wouldnt be reading this and using the system you know.
aside from the subjective points you have mentioned in favor of Canon, my advice is exact opposite. In terms of camera capability and overall value. especially for an SDer getting into a system, Sony system is significantly better. obviously if you can, go with A73 or newer body, but like you said A7R2 & A7R3 are fanatstic too if you need the MP. the amount/quality/value of native e-mount lenses is staggering.
Value itself is subjective. If high resolution is important, that would be of value to you. If overall capabilities as a carmea, that is a pleasure to use, then that has its value.
The Sony A7 bodies suck in ergo, this is not a subjective position. The way the electronics are managed aslo suck. It cant retain what settings were used last. It locks up when buffering. This is a design flaw and engineering oversight fail.
The menu system is a mess and really needs to be completely redone, and thats great about the new models.
So if you need a tool that does 42mpixels, or 60, then this Sony IS a GREAT value for what you can do with it. Sony lenses are not cheap.If you are new, I would say use the different camera systems and see which you like. If you are often using your camera, and have it in hand or do events or outdoor long handholding off a tripod, the ERGO is VERY important, and I would steer clear of the SOny. Canon and Nikon fit like a glove in the hand, and such a pleasure to use with logical electronics and memory, its not like using a electronic device like it is with Sony...its like using a camera.
At the end of the day, you need to weigh your usage and needs, and why your getting a camera.
Value itself is subjective. If high resolution is important, that would be of value to you. If overall capabilities as a carmea, that is a pleasure to use, then that has its value.
The Sony A7 bodies suck in ergo, this is not a subjective position. The way the electronics are managed aslo suck. It cant retain what settings were used last. It locks up when buffering. This is a design flaw and engineering oversight fail.
The menu system is a mess and really needs to be completely redone, and thats great about the new models.
So if you need a tool that does 42mpixels, or 60, then this Sony IS a GREAT value for what you can do with it. Sony lenses are not cheap.If you are new, I would say use the different camera systems and see which you like. If you are often using your camera, and have it in hand or do events or outdoor long handholding off a tripod, the ERGO is VERY important, and I would steer clear of the SOny. Canon and Nikon fit like a glove in the hand, and such a pleasure to use with logical electronics and memory, its not like using a electronic device like it is with Sony...its like using a camera.
At the end of the day, you need to weigh your usage and needs, and why your getting a camera.
Value as in getting better result for less money. Menu is fine, ergo is fine. Like I said, subjective.. Performance is superb. No lock up issues. Pricier sony lenses are among the best. Unbeatable value comes from the 3rd party native offerings. Good luck with that with canonikon. Rest, everyone can read reviews and handle camera to decide what works for their budget.
Value as in getting better result for less money. Menu is fine, ergo is fine. Like I said, subjective.. Performance is superb. No lock up issues. Pricier sony lenses are among the best. Unbeatable value comes from the 3rd party native offerings. Good luck with that with canonikon. Rest, everyone can read reviews and handle camera to decide what works for their budget.
LOL...how do you say the ergo is fine, the menu is fine...Compared to not having one or hold ing a rock...which most would be more cofortable than this thing. I have a adjustable L bracket and it STILL sucks...but now I can actually use it.
If you need a specific tool, and 42 or 60mpixels is it, ...YES, this is a great value, and the other factors not being your importance, are "fine", as they can be tolerable... you wont care about them to get the shot you are using the tool for. But thats about it. If you are shooting with primes, the body is less of an issue, and you'll be thinking "whats this guy talking about"?? Also, Sony doesnt have a smaller RAW mode! WTF, so your stuck shooting raw at only 60mpixels. Canon allows you a few RAW sizes, so if you are doing a selfie or travel photo to upload, you can do it in raw and edit, AND upload without 60mpixels being the only option.
Try slapping a 70-200 2.8F and stay with that for a long event, or anything 2+ hours...its a nightmare. Try that with a Canon 5D, and then tell me "its fine".
I didn't want to throw Nikon under the bus too soon, but I would not be getting into that system. They should have merged that department with someone by now. Unless they make some major changes, I cant see them do too well in the long run. But, as long as there are folks with lots of Nikon glass, it maybe a slow process.
The camera does lock when buffering, and if you take the battery out or dies, your shoot settings go back to when you last turn off the camera. Stupid and frustrating.
Real world use trumps statistics and data specs.
Is the A7III body only going to be a decent price? I've been eyeing it for some time, and I think the 42mp of the A7RIII is a bit overkill for my needs.
Not an overkill if you have good glass. Cropping images while maintaining good resolution is pretty handy. But glass is more important to do that
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However, after scanning the differences
https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/...vs-a7r-iv/ [mirrorlesscomparison.com]
I came to the conclusion that buying the latest camera model is good as the tech and software are upgraded. The menu itself is better in A7 IV with touch however the A7R has the old menu. Looks like there is a new one coming next year A7R V, which would be the best of both worlds, but then it's the never-ending story.
At this moment I am kind of closed on getting the A7 IV primarily because of the advancements in the camera overall. I will be missing the extra MP and more importantly the Viewfinder and Screen resolution among the others. The Pixel shift etc, I don't think I would have used anyway.
But if getting one of the Sony's as a upgrade, YES< I highly recommend the newer models with the new menu system. The Sony A7R3/4 menu system is almost as bad as using DOS on a PC from the 1980's. BUT, having the Custom buttons does help. Sony does a number of things to hit it out of the park as a great image maker, but not a camera maker. The sensor is top! the focus is very good with native lenses, and actually good and almost as good with non-sony, Canon glass. I would suggest what your gut is saying, either wait and save for the A7R5 or get the A74. If you need mpixels for print or crop, because you take blind random photos and then expect to find art in them by cropping, then , ya, get larger pixel count.
60mpixels will likely have you need a new computer system, and storage, as they add up REAL quick. But, those are upgradable. I mean if you went to school and you graduated and you want a shiny new camera for your "career" or art expression, get the best you can. If you worked for a photographer, interend and worked long enough, you wouldnt be reading this and using the system you know.
The Sony A7 bodies suck in ergo, this is not a subjective position. The way the electronics are managed aslo suck. It cant retain what settings were used last. It locks up when buffering. This is a design flaw and engineering oversight fail.
The menu system is a mess and really needs to be completely redone, and thats great about the new models.
So if you need a tool that does 42mpixels, or 60, then this Sony IS a GREAT value for what you can do with it. Sony lenses are not cheap.If you are new, I would say use the different camera systems and see which you like. If you are often using your camera, and have it in hand or do events or outdoor long handholding off a tripod, the ERGO is VERY important, and I would steer clear of the SOny. Canon and Nikon fit like a glove in the hand, and such a pleasure to use with logical electronics and memory, its not like using a electronic device like it is with Sony...its like using a camera.
At the end of the day, you need to weigh your usage and needs, and why your getting a camera.
The Sony A7 bodies suck in ergo, this is not a subjective position. The way the electronics are managed aslo suck. It cant retain what settings were used last. It locks up when buffering. This is a design flaw and engineering oversight fail.
The menu system is a mess and really needs to be completely redone, and thats great about the new models.
So if you need a tool that does 42mpixels, or 60, then this Sony IS a GREAT value for what you can do with it. Sony lenses are not cheap.If you are new, I would say use the different camera systems and see which you like. If you are often using your camera, and have it in hand or do events or outdoor long handholding off a tripod, the ERGO is VERY important, and I would steer clear of the SOny. Canon and Nikon fit like a glove in the hand, and such a pleasure to use with logical electronics and memory, its not like using a electronic device like it is with Sony...its like using a camera.
At the end of the day, you need to weigh your usage and needs, and why your getting a camera.
Value as in getting better result for less money. Menu is fine, ergo is fine. Like I said, subjective.. Performance is superb. No lock up issues. Pricier sony lenses are among the best. Unbeatable value comes from the 3rd party native offerings. Good luck with that with canonikon. Rest, everyone can read reviews and handle camera to decide what works for their budget.
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If you need a specific tool, and 42 or 60mpixels is it, ...YES, this is a great value, and the other factors not being your importance, are "fine", as they can be tolerable... you wont care about them to get the shot you are using the tool for. But thats about it. If you are shooting with primes, the body is less of an issue, and you'll be thinking "whats this guy talking about"?? Also, Sony doesnt have a smaller RAW mode! WTF, so your stuck shooting raw at only 60mpixels. Canon allows you a few RAW sizes, so if you are doing a selfie or travel photo to upload, you can do it in raw and edit, AND upload without 60mpixels being the only option.
Try slapping a 70-200 2.8F and stay with that for a long event, or anything 2+ hours...its a nightmare. Try that with a Canon 5D, and then tell me "its fine".
I didn't want to throw Nikon under the bus too soon, but I would not be getting into that system. They should have merged that department with someone by now. Unless they make some major changes, I cant see them do too well in the long run. But, as long as there are folks with lots of Nikon glass, it maybe a slow process.
The camera does lock when buffering, and if you take the battery out or dies, your shoot settings go back to when you last turn off the camera. Stupid and frustrating.
Real world use trumps statistics and data specs.
There has been 10 years to improve this camera system, but even their flagship has old issues...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb84b4I
Not an overkill if you have good glass. Cropping images while maintaining good resolution is pretty handy. But glass is more important to do that