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Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings is the debut movie for the character Shang-Chi and the 25th movie in the overall Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). As Shang-Chi is living a simple life as a valet with his best friend Katy, he's pulled back into the family crime business by his father, the Mandarin, and master of the Ten Rings. Along with Shang-Chi's sister, Xialing, they must learn what happened to their mother and then stop their father before he unleashes something capable of destroying the world. Can Shang-Chi and his allies fulfill their destinies and stop the Mandarin once and for all?

This movie, like all the others before it, connects to other movies in the MCU, notably pulling from the first and third Iron Man movies featuring the Ten Rings. Also, it pulls history from a lesser-known 14-minute-long Marvel One-Shot "All Hail the King". This short movie takes place after Iron Man 3 and follows up on the history of the Ten Rings as well as what happened to the Trevor Slattery character.

There are also some pleasant surprises in the form of connections to Doctor Strange and even The Incredible Hulk. Even without knowing that history, the movie stands on its own for newcomers and die-hard Marvel fans alike.

Directed by Destin Daniel Cretton, this is his first Marvel movie. It received high marks for its representation of Asian culture as well as its impressive martial arts fights choreography. Its screenplay is by Dave Callaham, Destin Daniel Cretton, and Andrew Lanham. It premiered exclusively in theaters on Sept. 3rd, 2021 throughout its theatrical run, earning over 224 million dollars domestically and over 207 million dollars internationally. In total, it earned over 431 million dollars, making it the highest-grossing movie of 2021. Critics gave it a 92% rating on RottenTomatoes.com, while audiences gave it a 98% score.

This movie drops on DVD, Blu-Ray and 4K Ultra HD on Tuesday, November 30th. There are two retailer exclusives for this movie as well, so let's find out the details.
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DVD/Blu-Ray Editions:

There are three editions:

1.) The DVD only set (1 Disc total)
2.) The Blu-ray + Digital Code (1 Disc total)
3.) The 4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray + Digital Code "Cinematic Universe Edition" (2 Discs total)

A note about the digital code, it will be a code you can redeem on the Movies Anywhere website, which you can then link with your different digital movie accounts on Amazon Video, iTunes, Google Play, Microsoft Movies & TV, and Vudu. When you link your accounts from those digital retailers, the films from your Movies Anywhere library are imported into all those other digital movie sites. So, no matter which digital movie platform you use, you should be able to view the movie on the device of your choice.

DVD, Blu-Ray & 4K Ultra HD Special Features:

1.) The DVD only set (1 Disc total)

The movie on DVD. No known additional features.

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2.) The Blu-ray + Digital Code (1 Disc total)

This edition includes several special features, including

• Gag Reel – Take a look at some of the fun mishaps on set with the cast and crew of Shang-Chi and The Legend of The Ten Rings.

• Deleted Scenes:

1.) They're Waiting – Shang-Chi and Katy connect with Xialing over a call.
2.) Take a Shot – Katy has a moment of resolve during a battle.
3.) Apology – Years after his sudden absence, Shang-Chi tries to apologize to Xialing.
4.) I'm Here – Shang-Chi and Katy have a conversation in the alley. Katy reassures Shang-Chi that she will always be his support system.
5.) Pep Talk – In order to turn the tide, Razor Fist encourages Katy during the middle of a battle.
6.) Greatness – Trevor and Katy bond over passions in their getaway car.
7.) Escape Tunnel – The gang slips out through Trevor's escape tunnel in order to secure a getaway vehicle.
8.) Two Sons – Xu Wenwu compares Shang-Chi and Razor Fist during a tense dinner.
9.) Postcard – Shang-Chi and Xu Wenwu reunite as father and son. Shang-Chi makes it clear he disagrees with Xu Wenwu's philosophy.
10.) Just Friends – Katy and Xialing get to know each other. Xialing asks Katy some personal questions.
11.) Do It Yourself – Xu Wenwu returns to his empire after the Iron Gang boss is captured.

• Building a Legacy – Go behind the scenes and explore Shang-Chi's explosive debut in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

• Family Ties – A deep dive into the rich but complicated legacy of Shang-Chi and Xu Wenwu.

• Audio Commentary – View the film with Audio Commentary by Destin Daniel Cretton and Dave Callaham.

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3.) The 4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray + Digital Code "Cinematic Universe Edition" (2 Discs total)

All the bonus features from the Blu-ray + Digital Code "Multi-Screen Edition", with a 4K Ultra HD version of the movie included.

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Best Prices:

I did a price comparison on both the internet and this week's circulars with Amazon.com, Best Buy, BestBuy.com, BarnesandNoble.com, Costco.com (no listings for some reason), DeepDiscount.com, FYE, FYE.com, Overstock.com, Target, Target.com, and Walmart.com. Unless otherwise noted or known by me, the prices are the same in-store and online at their respective websites. I noted shipping in the price rankings because of the competition between stores, but I will only be comparing the base prices of the movie. Shipping costs will not factor into the price rankings as a result.

Please note that with these price rankings, these prices are as current as I am aware of. Walmart's in-store prices don't always match its website prices, for example. As a result, these prices are as accurate as I can verify from the internet and flyers from the newspaper, I don't put prices in the rankings that I cannot verify.

I fully expect there to be further price changes on Tuesday when the movie is released to stores. This is especially true with Amazon's prices, which are NOT available online yet. I'll be updating this thread again on Tuesday and double-checking all the prices.

On a side note, this is why Amazon's prices aren't online yet and why they don't do pre-orders for a Disney owned movie: https://consumerist.com/2014/08/1...-blu-rays/

For example, in the past, Kmart.com/Sears.com will presumably sell all versions of a movie, but there are no listings for it online but only in Kmart's circular. So, I can only rank the price at the store and not the price on the website. I also know from experience that FYE's B&M store prices are the same as those on their website, so I made one listing for both. In other words, these stores reserve the right to change their prices and I might not know about it. Smilie That's where the SD community can help each other out and if new or different prices are verified, I will edit my post accordingly.

When I checked online, I found no listings for this movie on Costco.com or Walmart (no sales circular). A note about Walmart's prices, they have proven to be notoriously regional in the past and they rarely have a weekly circular available online. When it is available online, the circular prices in it are national or mostly national. Hopefully, the prices online will be national, with little price variation. Wink

I'm making a slight adjustment to my price rankings, as I will now only include the top five prices in this thread. Basically, if a retailer's price stinks, it doesn't get to be a part of this compilation list. Big Grin
I will still do a full price comparison to all the stores I listed above, but only the best prices will be included here. So if you don't see a particular store on the list, it means their price wasn't good enough to be included. It also means that if their price isn't included here, you should go to a retailer whose price WAS included on this list and try to get the other retailer to price match it, if possible.

Here are the conclusions:

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The DVD only set (1 Disc total):

Here are the complete price rankings:

First, BEST Price: Amazon.com - $19.96 - free shipping with Prime - only available for Prime members)
Walmart/Walmart.com - $19.96 (free 2-day shipping or free No-Contact Pickup on the curb at the store)

2nd: Best Buy/BestBuy.com - $19.99 ($3.99 shipping for orders on the website, free shipping on orders over $35, or free contactless curbside pickup at the store)
2nd: Target store/Target.com - $19.99 (free shipping on orders over $35 or use your REDcard to get free 2-day shipping on the website, or choose from free drive-up or in-store pickup for your order)
2nd: Walmart/Walmart.com - $19.99 (free 2-day shipping or free No-Contact Pickup on the curb at the store)
3rd: Barnes and Noble/BarnesandNoble.com - $23.99 ($2.98 for shipping or free shipping on orders over $35)

***** In recognizing the threat of COVID-19, please note that all listings for brick & mortar stores in these price rankings include options for contactless curbside or in-store pick-up, where available. *****

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2.) The Blu-ray + Digital Code (1 Disc total):

Complete price rankings:

First, BEST Price: Amazon.com - $24.96 - free shipping with Prime - only available for Prime members)
Walmart/Walmart.com - $24.96 (free 2-day shipping or free No-Contact Pickup on the curb at the store)

2nd: Best Buy/BestBuy.com - $24.99 ($3.99 shipping for orders on the website, free shipping on orders over $35, or free contactless curbside pickup at the store)
2nd: DeepDiscount.com - $24.99 (plus shipping costs or free shipping on orders over $25)
2nd: Target store/Target.com - $24.99 (free shipping on orders over $35 or use your REDcard to get free 2-day shipping on the website, or choose from free drive-up or in-store pickup for your order)
3rd: Barnes and Noble/BarnesandNoble.com - $28.79 ($2.98 for shipping or free shipping on orders over $25)
4th: FYE/FYE.com - $39.99 (purchase it directly at the store, pay shipping costs or get free shipping on orders over $40)

***** In recognizing the threat of COVID-19, please note that all listings for brick & mortar stores in these price rankings include options for contactless curbside or in-store pick-up, where available. *****

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3.) The 4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray + Digital Code "Cinematic Universe Edition" (2 Discs total):

Complete price rankings:

[First, BEST Price: Amazon.com - $29.96 - free shipping with Prime - only available for Prime members)
Walmart/Walmart.com - $29.96 (free 2-day shipping or free No-Contact Pickup on the curb at the store)

2nd: Best Buy/BestBuy.com - $29.99 ($3.99 shipping for orders on the website, free shipping on orders over $35, or free contactless curbside pickup at the store)
2nd: DeepDiscount.com - $29.99 (free shipping)
2nd: Target store/Target.com - $29.99 (free shipping on orders over $35 or use your REDcard to get free 2-day shipping on the website, or choose from free drive-up or in-store pickup for your order)
3rd: Best Buy/BestBuy.com - $34.99 ($3.99 shipping for orders on the website, free shipping on orders over $35, or free contactless curbside pickup at the store) – Best Buy Steelbook Exclusive
3rd: Target store/Target.com - $34.99 (free shipping on orders over $35 or use your REDcard to get free 2-day shipping on the website, or choose from free drive-up or in-store pickup for your order) - – Target Limited Art Edition Exclusive
4th: Barnes and Noble/BarnesandNoble.com - $35.19 (free shipping)
5th: FYE/FYE.com - $45.99 (purchase it directly at the store, pay shipping costs or get free shipping on orders over $40)

***** In recognizing the threat of COVID-19, please note that all listings for brick & mortar stores in these price rankings include options for contactless curbside or in-store pick-up, where available. *****

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Don't forget that you can price match any edition of this DVD or Blu-Ray to the store of your choice if they have a price matching policy. There might also be some store-specific coupons or online coupon codes floating around that could help bring some of these prices down further. Given the price competition for this movie, there are some great price-matching opportunities, especially due to the aggressive price matching policies stores like Best Buy, Target, and Walmart continue to utilize.
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Deals & Exclusives:

There are two retailer exclusives for this release. Which, if any, will you get?

***** In recognizing the threat of COVID-19, please note that all listings for these retailer exclusives at the brick & mortar stores include options for contactless curbside or in-store pick-up, where available. *****

Best Buy/BestBuy.com:

Best Buy and its website have a limited edition collectible SteelBook exclusive of the 4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray + Digital Code "Cinematic Universe Edition" (2 Discs total)". It features a collectible steel case and the cover on this edition is different than the cover on the standard, non-exclusive editions.

Priced at $34.99 with $3.99 shipping on its website or free contactless curbside pickup at the store:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/shang-chi-and-the-legend-of-the-ten-rings-steelbook4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-blu-rayonly--best-buy-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-blu-ray-2021/6482791.p?skuId=6482791

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Target/Target.com:

Target has a limited edition exclusive for the 4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray + Digital Code "Cinematic Universe Edition" (2 Discs total). It is titled the "Exclusive Art Edition" with an original design that is different than all other editions. It also includes two Limited-Edition Foil-Etched Prints.

Priced at $34.99, with free shipping on orders over $35 or use your REDcard to get free 2-day shipping on the website, or choose from free drive-up or in-store pickup for your order:
https://www.target.com/p/shang-chi-and-legend-of-the-ten-rings-target-exclusive-4k-uhd/-/A-84665775#lnk=sametab

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You can certainly purchase this movie digitally at the online retailer of your choice for $19.99. However, when you buy the Blu-Ray or the 4K editions of this movie, it comes with a digital code, so you don't have to do so unless that is your preference. nod

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I included as much pertinent information on this new release that I could find so everyone can make a more educated decision on whether to purchase this movie or not, as well as which edition they prefer. Also, if you were in the store and didn't know which edition to get, you could pull up this thread on your smartphone and use it to figure it out right there on the spot. (Of course, given the ongoing threat of COVID-19, you might not be in the store to begin with.)

For those of you who read these threads from start to finish, there is plenty of detail for everyone. I've noticed that a lot of the questions people put in these threads could be answered if they read the OP carefully. I would heartily encourage you to do so, as it might answer the question(s) you have before you even have to ask. Wink

And that is the end of this compilation, my first New Release Thread for the year 2021. There are two retailer exclusives for physical media this time around. It should make it easier to decide what edition and which exclusive you might want.

Remember, when you make your final mid-credits scene in the mighty Marvel manner, make sure it is tantalizing as possible with awesome cameos and questions about the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Also, make sure you release it on physical media one day after Cyber Monday and six days after Black Friday so it can be sold at full price. laugh out loud

For more information on my previous New Release Threads for blockbuster DVD, Blu-Ray & 4K releases, please click here: hhttps://slickdeals.net/forums/sdsearch.php?mode=forum&searchuserid=410841&showposts=0&starteronly=1.

RELEASE DAY - INFORMATION & PRICES UPDATED ON NOVEMBER 30th @ 7:28 AM EST:

1.) ALL PRICES remain the same for all retailers (!) Therefore, all price rankings remain the same, with no changes to the original post.

2.) Both retailer exclusives for Best Buy's Steelbook and Target's Exclusive Art Edition are now available to purchase online at their respective websites.

3.) As of this writing, Amazon.com only has Region-free versions of all editions of this movie at high prices. I fully expect Amazon to offer this movie at a reasonable price by the end of the day, as they have done in the past. However, we shall see. I'll check again tonight to see if that is the case and update the rankings accordingly if they do change.

Happy hunting! Smilie

PRICES UPDATED AGAIN ON SUNDAY - DEC. 5th @ 12:10 PM:

1.) Amazon.com finally has this movie available for all editions and matched the prices of Walmart/Walmart.com. This puts Amazon in first place in the price rankings along with Walmart/Walmart.com. This offer is exclusive to Prime members only, though. All price rankings have been updated accordingly.

2.) All of the other prices have stayed the same since last week. Their price rankings remain intact.

3.) All of the retailer exclusives are still available, though stock may be limited in some stores, at the same prices as last week.

If you missed out last week, this week, there are even more options available to purchase this movie, now that Amazon has it in stock.
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ceramicdragon
11-30-2021 at 03:32 PM.
11-30-2021 at 03:32 PM.
Good movie, but first half was totally different from second half. Should have kept the tone of first half. People still buy blurays?
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11-30-2021 at 05:02 PM.
11-30-2021 at 05:02 PM.
Quote from EyeVandy :
The issue is that whenever there is a post on SD that has anything to do with Blu-ray discs, we can expect you to drop in and educate us all on whether PQ or AQ is more important and how important object-based soundtracks are and if someone doesn't agree with everything you say, they are probably using sub-par audio equipment or [gasp!] a soundbar.

Who cares, man. At this point you are basically a troll that pops into almost every post about movies and it is usually to tell someone they are wrong about something. Then we all have to sort through all these posts from you douchecanoes arguing about Lord knows what. I and probably several others have learned by now that when the superman picture appears, we can skip to the next post. I know you know what you're talking about but that doesn't make it any less obnoxious. FWIW I know you are basically correct here. I was over it 5 pages ago.

If you think I'm basically right, why the hell are you bitching at me for!!!

Everyone eventually says this is subjective and I completely agree but when someone says mine is wrong and or starts to demean it.
If you think I'm not gonna say anything or shouldn't you're out of f*cken mind!!!!

I asked a simple question and it even wasn't to this idiot! How is that me educating someone?

Where did I tell anyone they were wrong, if anything people are telling me that!
I simply asked other questions based on what they said!

If you could care less about my opinion based on personal experience and would rather go by some data you read about, I don't give a f*ck!
Hell do me and everyone else a favor and just block me, ignore me, don't respond it's that simple!!!!

If you do respond and try to tell me that I'm wrong based on that data don't f*cken blame me for defending my keep!!!!
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duc135
11-30-2021 at 05:24 PM.
11-30-2021 at 05:24 PM.
Quote from supermanrob :
If you think I'm basically right, why the hell are you bitching at me for!!!

Everyone eventually says this is subjective and I completely agree but when someone says mine is wrong and or starts to demean it.
If you think I'm not gonna say anything or shouldn't you're out of f*cken mind!!!!

I asked a simple question and it even wasn't to this idiot! How is that me educating someone?

Where did I tell anyone they were wrong, if anything people are telling me that!
I simply asked other questions based on what they said!

If you could care less about my opinion based on personal experience and would rather go by some data you read about, I don't give a f*ck!
Hell do me and everyone else a favor and just block me, ignore me, don't respond it's that simple!!!!

If you do respond and try to tell me that I'm wrong based on that data don't f*cken blame me for defending my keep!!!!
Why don't you just let it go ? Do you need to be right and have the final say every single time? I tried to be nice and not push the issue but here you go. You asked for ONE title where the streamed audio was better than the disc version. Here are two example I found doing a quick search.

These guys have far more experience and capable systems than probably 90% of the population. Most have posted their systems. Many can play down to single digit frequencies at above 130dBs that can physically damage homes just from the SPL being produced. Some are recording professionals or sound engineers that have worked on blockbuster movies. I'll trust them long before I trust someone on a deals thread with 400movies in his/her collection.

Feel free to read through the entire thread of 20K+ posts. It is very informative. They even touch on the subject of studios tailoring their audio tracks for home mixes (in other words, HTiB/soundbars/TV speakers).

Quote from MrGrey, post: 56613422, member: 8666202 :

Holy crap!!!! Dealpool 2 Itunes version has better bass than the freaking disc!! (In some scenes so far) Dude the UHD Atmos track better have the better mix. At 00:12:24 when he picks up the man there's a clear and insane difference in the bass between both mixes and it's NOT a volume fix, it's a mix difference. The Itunes version at that mark is mental and with the Disc version it doesn't have the same weight at all. Now I'll have to compare the Normal, Extended Edition and the UHD Atmos. Right now it's pretty sad for the BD DTS MA 7.1 track. It's a no buy for that version. It's so weird now they both have such differences. I'll now have to time stamp all editions and compare. I hate when stupid stuff like this happens.
Quote from audiofan1, post: 60639272, member: 8085051 :
Could be with these early release streaming options it's not the Home mix but the theatrical mix and let's hope all goes well when the disc comes out. When opting early on the Croods 2 ,the streaming mix pounded the room but later when picking up the 4k disc guess what? Neutered bass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was sorely disappointed. I still stand by the Atmos mix on GvK its was as very well done and used the entire platform well above and below. If you get a chance and loved the Monster Hunter mix (I did as well) the recent release on Godzilla 2014 in Atmos is reference Atmos all the way.
Here's the link I mentioned about different audio tracks being released on different physical media formats for Master and Commander.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/...t-23328275

I sincerely hope that one day you'll grow out of this phase and learn to be open minded and accept that you do not know everything. Or you can keep your head in the sand and enjoy proving that ignorance is bliss. In the very least I hope you learn to respond in a more civilized and constructive manner rather than being so belligerent. People may respond and respect what you have to say more positively.

My apologies to everyone else for starting this debate. I was just trying to correct an incorrect statement.
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11-30-2021 at 08:47 PM.
11-30-2021 at 08:47 PM.
Quote from duc135 :
Why don't you just let it go ? Do you need to be right and have the final say every single time? I tried to be nice and not push the issue but here you go. You asked for ONE title where the streamed audio was better than the disc version. Here are two example I found doing a quick search.

These guys have far more experience and capable systems than probably 90% of the population. Most have posted their systems. Many can play down to single digit frequencies at above 130dBs that can physically damage homes just from the SPL being produced. Some are recording professionals or sound engineers that have worked on blockbuster movies. I'll trust them long before I trust someone on a deals thread with 400movies in his/her collection.

Feel free to read through the entire thread of 20K+ posts. It is very informative. They even touch on the subject of studios tailoring their audio tracks for home mixes (in other words, HTiB/soundbars/TV speakers).





Here's the link I mentioned about different audio tracks being released on different physical media formats for Master and Commander.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/...t-23328275

I sincerely hope that one day you'll grow out of this phase and learn to be open minded and accept that you do not know everything. Or you can keep your head in the sand and enjoy proving that ignorance is bliss. In the very least I hope you learn to respond in a more civilized and constructive manner rather than being so belligerent. People may respond and respect what you have to say more positively.

My apologies to everyone else for starting this debate. I was just trying to correct an incorrect statement.

Yes you should apologize you could have done that freakin 7 pages ago!!!!!
That's all I asked for 🙄

As I mentioned if you want to trust what some "recording professionals or sound engineers" (and their Pedegree) said over your own ears and your system that's completely up to you.

For me nothing supersedes my own ears and personal experience and system.

From just reading that I can tell you I don't define quality of sound on strictly low frequency or whether it "physically damage homes" so preference comes into play here also IMO.

For me UHD audio upgrade is object based soundtracks/immersion.

One thing I can tell you from personal experience, you won't experience that immersion on a ""soundbar/TV speakers/HTiB"
As a matter of fact you really don't get a true immersion on digital CONTENT even on a proper setup.

No that doesn't mean I'm telling anyone they are wrong and I'm right just my opinion! 🙄

Gonna have to track those movies down and put it to the test….finally!!! 🙄
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11-30-2021 at 10:35 PM.
11-30-2021 at 10:35 PM.
So even now you still can't admit you're wrong? I've provided you the evidence you kept asking for and to avoid admitting that you're wrong, you move the goalpost to say it has to meet your definition of better?

I would safely guess that everyone with a brain would say an audio track with a larger frequency range is better than one that has a limited frequency range. Do you buy a full range speaker then immediately rip out the bass drivers because that would be better? Why do you get to define better so that it will fit your narrative?


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Yes you should apologize you could have done that freakin 7 pages ago!!!!!
That's all I asked for 🙄
Ever heard the phrase "teach a man to fish..."? I tried to point you to the forum and threads to discover for yourself. Unfortunately, you seem to fit the entitled mentality. The I don't want to do it myself. Give me, give me, give me...

Like I repeatedly stated, I was never here to prove you were wrong or try to convince you of anything. I just wanted to let you know that your statement was incorrect and that the the information was out there. Yet you went on a tirade attacking me and anyone else who asked you to tone it down.


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As I mentioned if you want to trust what some "recording professionals or sound engineers" (and their Pedegree) said over your own ears and your system that's completely up to you.
No, I never said I trusted them over my own ears. I said I trust them over some random person who's credentials I have no clue about on some deals thread with 400 movies in their collection. Since you seem to have problems with reading comprehension, I was referring to you with your "over 100 UHD and at least 250 BD disc" collection.

They are an invaluable resource in those threads and have provided not just the graphed data to support their claims, but have helped numerous people to improve their systems without judging or being condescending to soundbar users. They don't make a claim then plug their ears with their fingers and refuse to listen to words of contradiction.

However, for matters concerning subjects that I don't know about and they are what the industry considers subject matter experts, yes, I would trust them over my comparatively limited experience. Trust, but verify.


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For me UHD audio upgrade is object based soundtracks/immersion.
That's great, but not all UHD discs have object based audio. So UHD releases have been, in some cases, a downgrade from their BD versions.


Quote from supermanrob :
One thing I can tell you from personal experience, you won't experience that immersion on a ""soundbar/TV speakers/HTiB"
Good for you. I never claimed they provided true immersion experiences. I merely stated some studios are starting to create their audio mixes for these types of systems and not for people like you with the most awesomemest of all systems and the ears of a bat. You are free to believe me or not, but when you start to experience more and more bad mixes even on disc, you'll know why.


Quote from supermanrob :
As a matter of fact you really don't get a true immersion on digital CONTENT even on a proper setup.
Again, you need to refrain from making your limited experience come across as fact. This statement is untrue. Streaming audio does have Atmos audio tracks. As a side note, Atmos or any other consumer level audio format for that matter, is not capable of true immersion. They can only approximate the experience. Some are closer than others.
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12-01-2021 at 06:25 AM.
12-01-2021 at 06:25 AM.
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Wait... are you saying the Marvel Cinematic Universe and all those superhero movies are made-up? i thought they were documentaries.
What?? There aren't actually winter super soldiers that saved us from the Nazis?
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12-01-2021 at 06:37 AM.
12-01-2021 at 06:37 AM.
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Good movie, but first half was totally different from second half.
They don't do it with half-movies, but frequently they fire the writer and make a completely different ending up, shoot it in one drag-on cut, then hand it off to be cut however without looking back until release day.


At least that's how I THINK it works . . . Big Grin
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12-01-2021 at 07:35 AM.
12-01-2021 at 07:35 AM.
Only thing bad I would say about this movie is why have an actor who you have to cgi his face onto a stuntman to perform the fights, when there are plenty of Chinese actors who CAN fight?
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12-01-2021 at 09:13 AM.
12-01-2021 at 09:13 AM.
Quote from duc135 :
So even now you still can't admit you're wrong? I've provided you the evidence you kept asking for and to avoid admitting that you're wrong, you move the goalpost to say it has to meet your definition of better?

I would safely guess that everyone with a brain would say an audio track with a larger frequency range is better than one that has a limited frequency range. Do you buy a full range speaker then immediately rip out the bass drivers because that would be better? Why do you get to define better so that it will fit your narrative?




Ever heard the phrase "teach a man to fish..."? I tried to point you to the forum and threads to discover for yourself. Unfortunately, you seem to fit the entitled mentality. The I don't want to do it myself. Give me, give me, give me...

Like I repeatedly stated, I was never here to prove you were wrong or try to convince you of anything. I just wanted to let you know that your statement was incorrect and that the the information was out there. Yet you went on a tirade attacking me and anyone else who asked you to tone it down.




No, I never said I trusted them over my own ears. I said I trust them over some random person who's credentials I have no clue about on some deals thread with 400 movies in their collection. Since you seem to have problems with reading comprehension, I was referring to you with your "over 100 UHD and at least 250 BD disc" collection.

They are an invaluable resource in those threads and have provided not just the graphed data to support their claims, but have helped numerous people to improve their systems without judging or being condescending to soundbar users. They don't make a claim then plug their ears with their fingers and refuse to listen to words of contradiction.

However, for matters concerning subjects that I don't know about and they are what the industry considers subject matter experts, yes, I would trust them over my comparatively limited experience. Trust, but verify.




That's great, but not all UHD discs have object based audio. So UHD releases have been, in some cases, a downgrade from their BD versions.




Good for you. I never claimed they provided true immersion experiences. I merely stated some studios are starting to create their audio mixes for these types of systems and not for people like you with the most awesomemest of all systems and the ears of a bat. You are free to believe me or not, but when you start to experience more and more bad mixes even on disc, you'll know why.




Again, you need to refrain from making your limited experience come across as fact. This statement is untrue. Streaming audio does have Atmos audio tracks. As a side note, Atmos or any other consumer level audio format for that matter, is not capable of true immersion. They can only approximate the experience. Some are closer than others.

Sorry I disagree all you provided were names, post/member numbers and words to "read", that may be proof to you but I listen with my ears not my eyes.

There was no "graph" there either but that would still be using my eyes not my ears.

I stated all along and was the very point of me asking for the movies for me to try it for myself, how is all this moving to goal post?
On that note I never asked for proof of where you got your opinion.

So there is nothing to say I'm "wrong" about.
So much for "Like I repeatedly stated, I was never here to prove you were "wrong" or try to convince you of anything" that sure the hell sounds like you are!

Anyone with a brain understands the proof you just provided came from these so called professionals.
YOU even just said "I would trust them over my comparatively limited experience. Trust, but verify."
If I misspoke by all means tell us how you personally "verified" this opinion?

Yes not every UHD disc includes object based soundtracks but when it does YOU said that these Studios are putting out this content (digital or disc) specifically for "soundbar/TV speakers/HTiB" users in mind! 😳
I asked for proof of where you must have read this but nothing yet. If it's gonna take 7 pages again never mind!

Would a reasonable person think that these studios are making two different transfers (digital/disc) for specifically "soundbar/TV speakers/HTiB" or does it make more sense they figure everybody is going to digital content and using "soundbar/TV speakers/HTiB", why bother making good content(with either) since you can't really tell the difference on those systems anyways! 🤔

I pointed this difference using my "400" disc and personally compared many of them to digital content and even gave an example of one.
For me there was ZERO that were better and IMO was significantly inferior(digital vs disc CONTENT).
You gave us supposedly 2-3(on paper) from someone else's opinion.

If you believe "when you start to experience more and more bad mixes even on disc" somehow doesn't apply to digital content that's your prerogative.

I can't speak for anyone else but even in my "limited experience" that ratio isn't even close.
I'm willing to gamble any reasonable person doesn't believe that ratio would get closer with more "unlimited " disc collection.

Clearly from reading your proof, it had nothing to do with immersion.

Would a reasonable person understand there is a quality difference of immersion from a "tv speakers/soundbar/htib" system to a proper setup even without "hearing of a bat"? 🤔

Even YOU mentioned these professionals used "capable systems than probably 90% of the population. Most have posted their systems"!
I'm willing to gamble those "capable systems" weren't a "tv speakers/soundbar/htib", if I'm incorrect by all means what were those "capable systems"?
If it's gonna take 7 pages again never mind.

I have personal experience with many of these different systems and IMO for the most part it's a significant difference.

AGAIN as I have mentioned several times this is just my personal "limited" experience opinion and not given "AS FACT" (talk about reading comprehension)! 🙄

As I mentioned when people say:

"I was never here to prove you were wrong or try to convince you of anything"

Then they start telling me my opinion is "wrong" or "untrue" and say I'm being "judging or being condescending" or I'm telling people believe this as "fact".
Especially when that same person is doing that very thing! 🙄
Sorry for being obnoxious but I'm gonna defend my keep!!!
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dstppy
12-01-2021 at 09:52 AM.
12-01-2021 at 09:52 AM.
Quote from Jfanesi3 :
Only thing bad I would say about this movie is why have an actor who you have to cgi his face onto a stuntman to perform the fights, when there are plenty of Chinese actors who CAN fight?

100% -- when I was a teenager I'd only watch fight scenes that were done by the actors.


To this day, it's the only reason I still think that The Matrix movies were anything special. There was an admirable amount of training that went into the main 3 actors.
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Bloodborne
12-01-2021 at 10:54 AM.
12-01-2021 at 10:54 AM.
Terrible movie, totally pointless nothing to do with anything. MCU should have given these movies a breather after Endgame.
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12-01-2021 at 11:15 AM.
12-01-2021 at 11:15 AM.
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This is a horrible post. The needless copy paste about Covid and twenty paragraphs to say "these are all the stores that sell it for MSRP"

If the OP had truly been that passionate about educating people about Shang Chi deals he would have posted last week that Target had B2G1 on all movies including preorders. I bought the new Bond, Venom 2, and Shang Chi all in 4k for $20 each, return eligible til Jan 31 in case a better deal comes along for rebuy return.
Lame and "horrible" to criticize the effort the op put into the post. These posts are common for new releases and they have serve their purpose for many on SD.
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12-01-2021 at 11:46 AM.
12-01-2021 at 11:46 AM.
Not buying a MCU bluray 4k until they're IMAX enhanced like the original Avengers movie was, Disney really does a bare minimum job on these discs, especially with Dolby Atmos tracks and they need to step it up.
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12-01-2021 at 12:27 PM.
12-01-2021 at 12:27 PM.
just had a great time going back through this thread and adding all the haters and ignorance ("pEOpLE sTiLL bUY pHYSiCaL mEdiA???", supermanrob, etc.) to my ignore list..what a blessing on here to not feed the trolls

thanks again, op! picked up the best buy and target exclusives Smilie gonna enjoy on my 5.1.4 atmos setup and maybe again on d+ for the imax ratio
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supermanrob
12-01-2021 at 01:31 PM.
12-01-2021 at 01:31 PM.
Quote from impasse :
just had a great time going back through this thread and adding all the haters and ignorance ("pEOpLE sTiLL bUY pHYSiCaL mEdiA???", supermanrob, etc.) to my ignore list..what a blessing on here to not feed the trolls

thanks again, op! picked up the best buy and target exclusives Smilie gonna enjoy on my 5.1.4 atmos setup and maybe again on d+ for the imax ratio

Great thank you the more that don't care and ignore,the better.

That way I don't have to get into these stupid silly debates! 🙏🏼👍🏻
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