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If anyone still cares or missed this deal from two days ago.
Sony 55" Class A9G MASTER Series OLED 4K UHD Smart Android TV XBR55A9G -
$1299.00 at Best Buy
Original price $2299.99
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony...Id=6331591
Store: Best Buy
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I clearly stated the the LG C1 was made for people who prioritize gaming over streaming content / watching cable TV.
Specifically gamers with PC/Series X who could take advantage of VRR, FreeSync, and G-Sync.
But for those with PS5, Nintendo Switch, or older gen consoles - the LG C1 will not provide any additional benefits than the A80J.
Multiple highly respected professional calibrators on AVSForums and on Youtube, the best being HDTVtest's Vincet Teoh, echo the same things I am saying:
LG C1 = better for gaming, worse upscaling (important for last gen/Switch/Cable TV viewers)
Sony A80J = worse for gaming (if you dont have a PS5/last gen), better color accuracy out of the box, better motion processing, sharper details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1K4KN-HIn0
Rtings is equivalent to Consumer Reports or Tom's Hardware - it's not meant to be taken as gospel
Their suggested custom settings for 2021 TVs are a joke compared to what calibrators are putting out there.
Professional calibration runs between $400-600+. Most, if not all, professional calibrators agree that the LG C1 can match the Sony A80J AFTER calibration but NOT out of the box.
Ill trust a professional calibrator and 100s of users, many of whom have both sets (one for PC gaming and one for streaming) before i trust Rtings lol
You sound like an older TV calibrator who is out of work because people can Google the ideal settings or download a program or pay for a disc to self calibrate.
Rtings is legit and they aren't paid to positively review any product.
Hard to argue against Rtings when most of the review data is numbers from industry standard tools and methods. Are you arguing against the numbers?
Rtings is legit and they aren't paid to positively review any product.
Hard to argue against Rtings when most of the review data is numbers from industry standard tools and methods. Are you arguing against the numbers?
I'm curious how to become a professional TV calibrator who is paid $400 to calibrate a TV.
Is there a school for that? How long does a $400 calibration take? I assume I get to sit on the sofa while doing this?
LG uses their version of webOS. I believe starting with the 2021 models, they started showing ads throughout webOS. The "ads" are suggestions for movies & shows they think you may like based on your viewing history.
So yet another company logging everything you do. Some find the ads annoying, some like them as a good way to surface content they may never have considered.
Sony uses their version of AndroidTV. I don't believe they show any type of ads.
You may want to search YouTube to see what each system looks like as they are different and you may prefer one much more over the other.
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Sony's are WAY, WAY, WAY better at motion handling. Forget stats and 2.1. No LG 2021 model can compete with this TV. NONE. It's magic...yet alone this year's set.
Motion was the big reason I picked Sony over LG last week. There was a lot I liked about LG for the money. But I wouldn't want to look at blurs for the next decade.
Is there a school for that? How long does a $400 calibration take? I assume I get to sit on the sofa while doing this?
You would be surprised what the high end home theater and automation people charge. The same people who hide 80" TVs inside their vacation mansion or yacht couldn't care less about a $400 calibration charge.
Is there a school for that? How long does a $400 calibration take? I assume I get to sit on the sofa while doing this?
He was there for roughly an hour (maybe a little longer) and fumbled through the whole process. He put in a DVD, hooked up a device to measure the color temperature as he went through the settings and changed them until the program told him they were good.
Funny enough it looked awful to everyone in the room, but the program insisted this was "correct".
I recall commenting that anyone could do this if they had the DVD (which apparently you could buy, but it was $200?) and he got visibly upset and went on a rant that it took a trained human eye to properly calibrate a TV. I didn't feel like arguing, but I laughed.
He also ended up only charged half (roughly $175) because it took so long and he couldn't get the color perfect, per the program he was using. These calibrators were definitely taking advantage of people that were afraid of tech. Didn't help that the sales folks were really pushing the calibration during checkout at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc back in the day.
/endrant
He was there for roughly an hour (maybe a little longer) and fumbled through the whole process. He put in a DVD, hooked up a device to measure the color temperature as he went through the settings and changed them until the program told him they were good.
Funny enough it looked awful to everyone in the room, but the program insisted this was "correct".
I recall commenting that anyone could do this if they had the DVD (which apparently you could buy, but it was $200?) and he got visibly upset and went on a rant that it took a trained human eye to properly calibrate a TV. I didn't feel like arguing, but I laughed.
He also ended up only charged half (roughly $175) because it took so long and he couldn't get the color perfect, per the program he was using. These calibrators were definitely taking advantage of people that were afraid of tech. Didn't help that the sales folks were really pushing the calibration during checkout at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc back in the day.
/endrant
the most basic Calman calibration unit for at home calibration is around $200-300
most legit calibrations cost $600 - the cost for that kind of equipment is thousands of dollars
some posters on here are acting like inputting whatever Rtings says are the best settings is the way to go
meanwhile there are threads on AVS Forums hundreds of pages long discussing which settings (basic settings this is not even touching the advanced settings that are available using a service remote / input code) are best for which type of content
Rtings settings arent even the best ''basic" settings
If that person did a little research he/she would know that Rtings settings are not even close to reference or director's intent - if you want an overblown image full of oversatured color profiles sure go with Rtings
If not look at Vincent Teoh, Keep it Classy tech, or any of the other professional calibrators that offer their settings for free either on AVSForums (each unit C1/A80J has their own dedicated forum thread) or on Youtube where they go setting by setting explaining not only which setting to choose but what each setting means to your end picture.
Bottom line: buying a 2 year old TV for the same cost as a 2021 model is dumb - even if you arent gaming. If you are gaming and either own or plan on owning a PS5/Series X just close the tab and move to another device this TV doesnt even support HDMI 2.1
[quote]No idea, but I always remember my Aunt bought a new Sony HDTV around 2007 and had someone come out and "professionally" calibrate it.
LG C1 is only a good buy if you are a PC/Xbox Series X gamer - for anyone else (PS5/Switch/non gamers) or for those that value streaming > gaming, the A80J is the top mid-range OLED of 2021
A80J offers better picture quality (without professional calibration), sharper details, far superior upscaling of SDR content (cable TV / Nintendo Switch games), and much better motion processing.
LG C1 is vastly overhyped by shills all over the internet - dont fall for this common trap
LG OLEDs are hands down the best TVs on the market.
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A90J is rated as the best OLED on the market (miles ahead of the G1 - LG's flagship in PQ)
A80J is the best mid-tier OLED - but since Black Friday sales are over the prices have gone up
55" A80J is now $400 more than the LG C1 ($1300)
65 A80J is also now $400 more than the LG C1 ($1800)
Unless you absolutely need four HDMI 2.1 ports, game on PC/Xbox Series X there is absolutely no reason to go with the LG C1 - unless you plan on paying for professional calibration.
There is a reason why the 55" A80J is nearly the same price as the 65" LG C1. Think about that for a second