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Product Name: | ASUS RT-AX86U AX5700 Dual Band + WiFi 6 Gaming Router ZAKU II EDITION, 802.11ax, up to 2500 sq ft & 35+ Devices, NVIDIA GeForce Now, Lifetime Free Internet Security, Mesh WiFi Support, 2.5G port, Gaming port |
Product Description: | Pros: Great speed and has tons of options. The quad core in the router handles the load amazingly. The built in secuirty is a nice bonus where other brands want yearly subs like netgear. Very easily configurable and qos seems to work decently Cons: Had to contact asus for the red antenna. And after showing them multiple pictures from there own site they were able to locate and ship me the red antenna. I'm glad they sent the replacment as the char zaku theme is the whole reason we're paying 50 extra over the base version. Overall Review: Great router a goes amazing with the other char zaku theme. but had to knock a star off for the sturggle that it took to get asus to admit to the red antenna replacment even existing. once they aknowleged it, it was smooth sailing and they shipped it very promply. |
Product SKU: | N82E16833320497 |
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Once we account for that, then the real comparison is 2402Mbit (4804 / 2) on the AX86U vs 2167Mbit on the AC5300 in terms of link rates - assuming the best possible client for either scenario.
So no, 20% is about a reasonable approximation of the gains you'd actually see with real world settings.
This is ignoring the QAM situation, as Jsz details in the post above mine.
The Sony PS5 and tons of AX phones (IPhone/galaxy etc) only support 80mhz blocks due to avoiding DFS on purpose. There are outliers, but they're not common devices.
If a majority of household devices are 2x2 80mhz AC.. then yeah the only thing those numbers represent is a better close range AX performance due to QAM-1024 and 10% increase at each equivalent QAM rate.
With that said..
I do think (high end) AX routers are better at this point. Especially with optimized/larger antennas, clients, firmware, power output, Innate SNR advantages over AC (~ 9DB). I just think the marketing numbers around 80-160mhz spec are complete bullshit and make things seem better than they are.
My main problem is pricing (Covid/WFH put a dent in AX). 4x4 high end routers used to be cheaper, but were slowly getting back there.
Apples to apples based on broadcom spec.. its 10%..up to 27% if using a 2x2 80mhz AX client...since most AC clients do not go beyond 256 QAM.
Thats ignoring the fact that every type of AX/AC radio has different performance metrics for throughput on its own.
Similar to the above, I need a powerful router in terms of processing and memory, but don't care about range. It's for a studio full of smart home devices (like 40ish) but small so range is not important.
Thanks for any insight!
Quick things I love about it:
Merlin's FW makes this essentially perfect for me.
VPN Director let's you selectively route clients through vpn, and others through normal WAN.
One of the things that makes this pricey is a CPU that supports AES instructions for encryption. What this means is that if you run your VPN client on the router, you'll basically saturate your full ISP bandwidth. I get the full 100MB throughput on my vpn clients; other routers were maybe 2/3 of that.
QoS is great. I can finally do video calls for work while kiddo is streaming a show, all on my meager connection.
You can install Add ons like router level ad blocking if that's your thing.
AX throughput is great. Getting near gigabit speed from my NAS to my laptop running a $15 Intel AX card.
Running about 15 clients so nothing crazy, but it holds up well.
With FW updates this thing has become bulletproof - uptime is well into several months at this point and last time it went down was bc of a comcast outage.
Hope this helps someone decide if the premium price and features are worth it to them.
Should I just buy a 2nd one with this deal or can I get a cheaper one like the one the other day
I am upgrading from two amplifi routers which served me well but can't provide me with 1.4 gbps that Comcast has in my area.
Thanks
The gui is even zaku-themed, lol. Does anyone know if the merlin fw has this as well? I know it's superficial but I like it.
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Quick things I love about it:
Merlin's FW makes this essentially perfect for me.
VPN Director let's you selectively route clients through vpn, and others through normal WAN.
One of the things that makes this pricey is a CPU that supports AES instructions for encryption. What this means is that if you run your VPN client on the router, you'll basically saturate your full ISP bandwidth. I get the full 100MB throughput on my vpn clients; other routers were maybe 2/3 of that.
You can install Add ons like router level ad blocking if that's your thing.
AX throughput is great. Getting near gigabit speed from my NAS to my laptop running a $15 Intel AX card.
Hope this helps someone decide if the premium price and features are worth it to them.
i recently bought the ax86u and put merlin on it.
anyway my broadband is 200 Mbps.
i set up openvpn on it on udp protocol.
i use speedtest.net and i get 75/9 Mbps.
pings are 15 ms.
Should i not be getting near 200 Mbps?
Shouldn't the boxes be sealed with the red antennae in the original package alongside the red router?
How is it possible that the red antennae would end up separate from the router?
Is Newegg opening the boxes and taking the red antennae out (not likely, but would Asus ship the red antennae separately from the red routers, and how would black antennae find their way into the retail box with the red routers)?
The most likely explanation is that ASUS is shipping some units with black antennae without telling buyers that they have changed it, then Newegg has to scramble to get red antennae when they demand it.
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Shouldn't the boxes be sealed with the red antennae in the original package alongside the red router?
How is it possible that the red antennae would end up separate from the router?
Is Newegg opening the boxes and taking the red antennae out (not likely, but would Asus ship the red antennae separately from the red routers, and how would black antennae find their way into the retail box with the red routers)?
The most likely explanation is that ASUS is shipping some units with black antennae without telling buyers that they have changed it, then Newegg has to scramble to get red antennae when they demand it.
I bought mine from Gamestop (had to exchange one since it had rattling parts) but in both cases, it's a black antenna. My friend order another from GS, same deal.
Anyway, all you need to do is contact Asus and they'll send you the red antenna. They also gave me a really neat ROG keychain with the red antenna.
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Wifi 6e is already here. Axe11000 router and multiple phones currently. Wifi 7 is around the corner. The chip are already in production.