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Newegg has ASUS RT-AX86U AX5700 Dual Band WiFi 6 Gaming Router (ZAKU II Edition) for $229.99 after applying promo code ESBBT2Z378. Shipping is free.

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Product Features:
  • Speeds up to 5700 Mbps
  • Connect up to 35 Devices
  • Up to 2500 sq. feet Coverage
  • NVIDIA GeForce Now
  • Lifetime Free Internet Security
  • Mesh WiFi support
  • 2.5G port
  • Gaming Port
  • Adaptive QoS w/ Port Forwarding
  • True 2 Gbps Wired and Wireless Speed

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Model: ASUS AX5700 WiFi 6 Gaming Router (RT-AX86U Zaku II Edition) – Dual Band Gigabit Wireless Internet Router, NVIDIA GeForce Now, 2.5G Port, Gaming & Streaming, AiMesh, Lifetime Internet Security

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Just to cut some people off, for those who will eventually ask how much better is this than the GS-AX3000 from the other thread its about 100-150Mbps faster in both short and long range for its wireless throughput.
So does red make the router faster? If so, can you spray paint your router and get the same result? laugh out loudLMAO
Im surprised the Gundam version of all variants is under MSRP. Usually special editions hold pricing well.

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Jsz0301
06-24-2022 at 03:07 PM.
06-24-2022 at 03:07 PM.
Quote from lolrofllol :
The AX86U's 4804Mbit is based on 160Mhz channels, whereas the AC5300's 2167Mbit is based on 80Mhz channels. For various reasons, Jsz and I both consider 160Mhz channels to be generally unusable in the real world. 80Mhz is the channel width most people should be using.

Once we account for that, then the real comparison is 2402Mbit (4804 / 2) on the AX86U vs 2167Mbit on the AC5300 in terms of link rates - assuming the best possible client for either scenario.

So no, 20% is about a reasonable approximation of the gains you'd actually see with real world settings.

This is ignoring the QAM situation, as Jsz details in the post above mine.
End of the day, it just comes down to intel desktop/laptop m.2 cards supporting the higher 160mhz bandwidth at closer range (<10FT) to have the legitimate "throughput" advantage.. Both AX (2400 via 2x2 160mhz) and ACW2 (1733 via 2x2 160mhz).

The Sony PS5 and tons of AX phones (IPhone/galaxy etc) only support 80mhz blocks due to avoiding DFS on purpose. There are outliers, but they're not common devices.

If a majority of household devices are 2x2 80mhz AC.. then yeah the only thing those numbers represent is a better close range AX performance due to QAM-1024 and 10% increase at each equivalent QAM rate.

With that said..

I do think (high end) AX routers are better at this point. Especially with optimized/larger antennas, clients, firmware, power output, Innate SNR advantages over AC (~ 9DB). I just think the marketing numbers around 80-160mhz spec are complete bullshit and make things seem better than they are.

My main problem is pricing (Covid/WFH put a dent in AX). 4x4 high end routers used to be cheaper, but were slowly getting back there.

Apples to apples based on broadcom spec.. its 10%..up to 27% if using a 2x2 80mhz AX client...since most AC clients do not go beyond 256 QAM.

Thats ignoring the fact that every type of AX/AC radio has different performance metrics for throughput on its own.
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igorjrr
06-24-2022 at 03:29 PM.
06-24-2022 at 03:29 PM.
What do they mean by "connect up to 35 devices"... Are they estimating how many devices the router can handle concurrently? Because of course hundreds of devices can connect based on IP range.

Similar to the above, I need a powerful router in terms of processing and memory, but don't care about range. It's for a studio full of smart home devices (like 40ish) but small so range is not important.

Thanks for any insight!
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CouponFinder99
06-24-2022 at 03:36 PM.
06-24-2022 at 03:36 PM.
Do people run stock on this or use Merlin? I see Merlin supports this router.
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chong67
06-24-2022 at 03:52 PM.
06-24-2022 at 03:52 PM.
No DD-WRT support. Dont bother.
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06-24-2022 at 04:10 PM.
06-24-2022 at 04:10 PM.
Quote from geezeefosheezee :
I have this router and it's phenomenal - AMA about specifics and I'll try to respond.

Quick things I love about it:
Merlin's FW makes this essentially perfect for me.

VPN Director let's you selectively route clients through vpn, and others through normal WAN.

One of the things that makes this pricey is a CPU that supports AES instructions for encryption. What this means is that if you run your VPN client on the router, you'll basically saturate your full ISP bandwidth. I get the full 100MB throughput on my vpn clients; other routers were maybe 2/3 of that.

QoS is great. I can finally do video calls for work while kiddo is streaming a show, all on my meager connection.

You can install Add ons like router level ad blocking if that's your thing.

AX throughput is great. Getting near gigabit speed from my NAS to my laptop running a $15 Intel AX card.

Running about 15 clients so nothing crazy, but it holds up well.

With FW updates this thing has become bulletproof - uptime is well into several months at this point and last time it went down was bc of a comcast outage.

Hope this helps someone decide if the premium price and features are worth it to them.
right on.. I only buy Asus routers anymore so I can load it with Merlin firmware.
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IBlackIHIawk
06-24-2022 at 04:29 PM.
06-24-2022 at 04:29 PM.
I just bought one these awhile ago on Amazon and looking for a wired backhaul access point for more coverage in my house.

Should I just buy a 2nd one with this deal or can I get a cheaper one like the one the other day


I am upgrading from two amplifi routers which served me well but can't provide me with 1.4 gbps that Comcast has in my area.

Thanks
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06-24-2022 at 04:47 PM.
06-24-2022 at 04:47 PM.
I bought this for $238 new at amazon a few days ago. It's a nice upgrade over my old ac68u. Now I can get a good 5Ghz signal a home away.

The gui is even zaku-themed, lol. Does anyone know if the merlin fw has this as well? I know it's superficial but I like it.
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06-24-2022 at 04:56 PM.
06-24-2022 at 04:56 PM.
Quote from geezeefosheezee :
I have this router and it's phenomenal - AMA about specifics and I'll try to respond.

Quick things I love about it:
Merlin's FW makes this essentially perfect for me.

VPN Director let's you selectively route clients through vpn, and others through normal WAN.

One of the things that makes this pricey is a CPU that supports AES instructions for encryption. What this means is that if you run your VPN client on the router, you'll basically saturate your full ISP bandwidth. I get the full 100MB throughput on my vpn clients; other routers were maybe 2/3 of that.

You can install Add ons like router level ad blocking if that's your thing.

AX throughput is great. Getting near gigabit speed from my NAS to my laptop running a $15 Intel AX card.


Hope this helps someone decide if the premium price and features are worth it to them.
Hi, is your broadband 100MB when you say you get the full 100MB on your vpn clients.

i recently bought the ax86u and put merlin on it.

anyway my broadband is 200 Mbps.

i set up openvpn on it on udp protocol.

i use speedtest.net and i get 75/9 Mbps.

pings are 15 ms.

Should i not be getting near 200 Mbps?
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Synergy93
06-24-2022 at 06:40 PM.
06-24-2022 at 06:40 PM.
Need help, currently have a ASUS RT-ACRH17 AC1700 router. We use gigabyte internet and live in a 1100 square foot apartment. Seems like we have issues getting good reception/speeds from the other side of the apartment and we plan on buying a house soon as well. Would this be a good upgrade? Only 2 of us with 12 total devices, would something else make more sense?
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dchang0
06-24-2022 at 08:01 PM.
06-24-2022 at 08:01 PM.
Kinda scary that the Newegg reviews indicate that they received black antennae and had to demand the red antennae.
Shouldn't the boxes be sealed with the red antennae in the original package alongside the red router?
How is it possible that the red antennae would end up separate from the router?
Is Newegg opening the boxes and taking the red antennae out (not likely, but would Asus ship the red antennae separately from the red routers, and how would black antennae find their way into the retail box with the red routers)?

The most likely explanation is that ASUS is shipping some units with black antennae without telling buyers that they have changed it, then Newegg has to scramble to get red antennae when they demand it.
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06-24-2022 at 08:50 PM.
06-24-2022 at 08:50 PM.
Quote from tnoogen :
So does red make the router faster? If so, can you spray paint your router and get the same result? laugh out loudLMAO

Adds 5 horsepower
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06-24-2022 at 09:25 PM.
06-24-2022 at 09:25 PM.
Quote from dchang0 :
Kinda scary that the Newegg reviews indicate that they received black antennae and had to demand the red antennae.
Shouldn't the boxes be sealed with the red antennae in the original package alongside the red router?
How is it possible that the red antennae would end up separate from the router?
Is Newegg opening the boxes and taking the red antennae out (not likely, but would Asus ship the red antennae separately from the red routers, and how would black antennae find their way into the retail box with the red routers)?

The most likely explanation is that ASUS is shipping some units with black antennae without telling buyers that they have changed it, then Newegg has to scramble to get red antennae when they demand it.
The black antenna is not a Newegg issue. It's an issue by Asus.

I bought mine from Gamestop (had to exchange one since it had rattling parts) but in both cases, it's a black antenna. My friend order another from GS, same deal.

Anyway, all you need to do is contact Asus and they'll send you the red antenna. They also gave me a really neat ROG keychain with the red antenna.
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06-24-2022 at 09:56 PM.
06-24-2022 at 09:56 PM.
Quote from CouponFinder99 :
Do people run stock on this or use Merlin? I see Merlin supports this router.
Look at the feature set offered by Merlin and if you don't see anything you need, don't bother. I've always run stock firmware with every router I've owned. I never have any issues with them, ever.
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06-24-2022 at 10:07 PM.
06-24-2022 at 10:07 PM.
Seeing this supports SQM with Merlin, I'm in for one. I've needed a router that supports SQM for a while now as the bufferbloat is atrocious on my T-Mobile home internet service. Reviews look good, and this is a lot less than the other router I was considering with a similar level of configurability.
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06-24-2022 at 11:14 PM.
06-24-2022 at 11:14 PM.
Quote from Ilovedeals :
router prices dropping like gpu prices. Also wifi 6E will be around the corner. Probably a lot of routers going on clearance to clear stock for wifi 6E

Wifi 6e is already here. Axe11000 router and multiple phones currently. Wifi 7 is around the corner. The chip are already in production.
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