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Dell Optiplex 3050 Small Form Desktop (Refurb): i5-6500, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD

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itreplay via eBay has Dell Optiplex 3050 Small Form Factor Desktop (Refurbished) on sale for $169.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Hunter chaofun for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Intel Core i5-6500 Quad-Core Processor
  • 16GB 2133MHz
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Intel HD 530 Integrated Graphics
  • Windows 10 Professional
  • Ports:
    • Front
      • 2x 3.1 USB
      • 2x 2.0 USB
    • Rear:
      • 2x 3.1 USB
      • 2x 2.0 USB
      • 1x DisplayPort
      • 1x HDMI
  • Comes with Keyboard, Mouse, and WiFi adapter

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    • Comes with a 1-year warranty from Allstate
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itreplay via eBay has Dell Optiplex 3050 Small Form Factor Desktop (Refurbished) on sale for $169.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Hunter chaofun for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Intel Core i5-6500 Quad-Core Processor
  • 16GB 2133MHz
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Intel HD 530 Integrated Graphics
  • Windows 10 Professional
  • Ports:
    • Front
      • 2x 3.1 USB
      • 2x 2.0 USB
    • Rear:
      • 2x 3.1 USB
      • 2x 2.0 USB
      • 1x DisplayPort
      • 1x HDMI
  • Comes with Keyboard, Mouse, and WiFi adapter

Editor's Notes

Written by johnny_miller | Staff
  • About this product:
    • See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal and computer.
    • Comes with a 1-year warranty from Allstate
  • About this store:
    • itreplay via eBay offers free 60 day returns.

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Doait
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These can not be upgraded to Windows 11 (supported by MS).
Horace
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How so? We aren't talking about a dual-CPU Sandy Bridge system with multiple GPUs here; this is a basic 6th gen with limited ad-ons. I wouldn't expect more than 20-25W average.

Assuming 25W average, that's less than $32/year running 24/7 at the US average 14.47 cents/kWh. You might be able to knock $20 a year off that number if you get a super power efficient 8W system, but I wouldn't call a delta of $0.05 a day costly. (Obviously this may change a bit for people in CA/AK/HI or the north east, but even then we're still only talking maybe $0.10/day.)
demiurg
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If you're interested in this, also check goodwill online. I have an i3-6100 based SFF machine I won in auction for ~ $50 recently.

Indeed great for home servers

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Jun 25, 2022 04:42 AM
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HoraceJun 25, 2022 04:42 AM
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Quote from pcmax :
And how about a link for one with two NICS?
How about five? [ebay.com] (Literally the third eBay listing after a 10s search. Just be careful, as the standard 'slim' T620 doesn't have the expansion slot, while the thicker T620+ does.)

The main draw of the T620+ (and subsequent newer T730 and T740 units) was the inclusion of a PCIe expansion slot, so you could add in your own NIC (the newer versions even have the bandwidth for 10 and 25GbE networking).
If you buy the T620+ and quad NIC separately, you can probably find the T620+ for ~$75, and something like an Intel i340-t4/HP NC365T for ~$50, for a full system well under $150. Check on T730 and similar low-power options as well, as the relative pricing will fluctuate, making an option much more/less attractive at the time.
Last edited by Horace June 25, 2022 at 02:30 AM.
Jun 25, 2022 06:58 AM
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dylanduong123Jun 25, 2022 06:58 AM
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Quote from Doait :
These can not be upgraded to Windows 11 (supported by MS).
What's the specs requirement for window 11 ? I have i3 9th gen. Can I upgrade to window 11?
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Jun 25, 2022 07:08 AM
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DoaitJun 25, 2022 07:08 AM
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Quote from dylanduong123 :
What's the specs requirement for window 11 ? I have i3 9th gen. Can I upgrade to window 11?
From memory anything 8th Gen+ with TPM 2.0 +
Jun 25, 2022 09:23 AM
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NewUser2022Jun 25, 2022 09:23 AM
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A 6th generation i5 SSF with 16 gb ram and Win 10 Pro for $169.99 is an excellent deal. Can do dual monitor with the DisplayPort and HDMI out connectors. Can add a large capacity 3.5" hard drive on the cheap. Comes with a inexpensive keyboard, mouse and WiFi adapter so that's a plus. Hardware accelerated support for the H.265/HEVC codec started with 6th generation Intel® Core™ processors. Good if you are going to use with Blue Iris or other applications that benifit from HEVC encoding and decoding. Not 10 bit but still good - that started in the 7th generation I believe. I think this motherboard supports gen 6 and 7th so there might be an upgrade path. That's all I can think of on the deal. I believe this can be upgraded to Win 11 using a readily available hack. NOTE: Microsoft will continue to support Windows 10 until Oct. 14, 2025.
Jun 25, 2022 09:46 AM
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SilmeJun 25, 2022 09:46 AM
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Quote from Scintillation :
What do you suggest for under $200 then?
As others said this is not a power hungry system but you can find a Celeron J4125 mini-PC for about the same price.
Jun 25, 2022 11:05 AM
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Yell0wJun 25, 2022 11:05 AM
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Quote from Horace :
A SFF prebuilt chassis like this is not a good candidate for a NAS. It only has room for (1) 3.5" drive OR (2) 2.5" drives, and a PCIe 3.0 x2 NVMe.
What do you recommend?
Jun 25, 2022 12:35 PM
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USEagleJun 25, 2022 12:35 PM
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Quote from pcmax :
And how about a link for one with two NICS?
This is the one I've got a few months ago and and I'm very happy with: https://www.ebay.com/itm/19500100...media=COPY
Last edited by USEagle June 25, 2022 at 06:10 AM.

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Jun 25, 2022 01:47 PM
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MegadethklokJun 25, 2022 01:47 PM
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Thinking about this for a Blue Iris / NVR system.
Jun 25, 2022 02:26 PM
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GrimJetJun 25, 2022 02:26 PM
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Quote from Giantcrazy :
Overkill, and the power consumption would get costly, quickly.
If you're looking to pinch pennies, then basically anything outside of a qnap or Synology Celeron will use some power.
My Jellyfin server is an i7 11700, with 7x 6tb sas drives and 10gb Ethernet. At idle it uses 100w and under load maybe 110w. Not much in the grand scheme of things. Equivalent to a porch light left on.

My older server is running an i5 3470 on a z170 mobo, with 8x 3tb sas drives, it idles at 70-80w, but under load pulls 160.
At my current electricity rate, having both nas machines running 24/7 costs me about $12 a month.
That barely covers the cost of a big Mac meal these days.

You may can save $4-$5 a month with something less robust, but is it really worth it at that point?
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Jun 25, 2022 02:44 PM
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mfmruizvJun 25, 2022 02:44 PM
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Quote from demiurg :
If you're interested in this, also check goodwill online. I have an i3-6100 based SFF machine I won in auction for ~ $50 recently.

Indeed great for home servers
Is this at shopgoodwill.com not seeing any other rec for home/jellyfin server for 1080
Jun 25, 2022 02:44 PM
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GiantcrazyJun 25, 2022 02:44 PM
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Quote from kabal57 :
If you're looking to pinch pennies, then basically anything outside of a qnap or Synology Celeron will use some power.
My Jellyfin server is an i7 11700, with 7x 6tb sas drives and 10gb Ethernet. At idle it uses 100w and under load maybe 110w. Not much in the grand scheme of things. Equivalent to a porch light left on.

My older server is running an i5 3470 on a z170 mobo, with 8x 3tb sas drives, it idles at 70-80w, but under load pulls 160.
At my current electricity rate, having both nas machines running 24/7 costs me about $12 a month.
That barely covers the cost of a big Mac meal these days.

You may can save $4-$5 a month with something less robust, but is it really worth it at that point?
$5 a month x the lifetime of a firewall (figure 2-3 years) = $120 to $180 saved. And that's a very conservative estimate - I bought a Lenovo USFF that sits at 12W idle for my FIOS gigabit connection and it runs OPNSense just fine. The difference between that 12W at idle and your 100W is 88W, 24x7 - at 25c/kwh that's running you nearly $15 a month more in electricity, which over the course of 3 years is $540.

Plus, spending extra on the device itself - here's another deal, a full 50 dollars less than this with considerably lower at-idle energy and heat requirements:

https://slickdeals.net/f/15861442-acer-recertified-xc-830-uw91-slim-desktop-j4125-quad-core-4gb-ddr4-256gb-pcie-ssd-802-11ac-4k-hdmi-114-39?src=frontpage

The question boils down to one of requirements - it's not a matter of 'more robust' - it's more compute power that you may or may not need. pfSense/OPNSense are both built to run on low spec equipment. Unless you're running gigabit ethernet firewall speeds and need a lot of content inspection/filtering (suricata, etc.), you won't use the extra compute capacity, not by a longshot. So why pay for the extra up front cost, energy and heating required if you don't need it?
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sirsteveJun 25, 2022 02:45 PM
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7 year old processor
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GiantcrazyJun 25, 2022 02:49 PM
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Quote from Scintillation :
What do you suggest for under $200 then?
I'd think about what you need first - how much bandwidth do you use, how much logging and content filtering are you expecting to do. There are a lot of variables here - if you're sticking to a stock deployment and aren't going to be doing a lot of ClamAV/Suricata and other heavyweight services, or if you're running a lot of traffic through the firewall, then you might actually need the extra processing power.

If not - a machine like this might even be overkill for $50 less and less power at idle:

https://slickdeals.net/f/15861442-acer-recertified-xc-830-uw91-slim-desktop-j4125-quad-core-4gb-ddr4-256gb-pcie-ssd-802-11ac-4k-hdmi-114-39?src=frontpage

Further, you can get all sorts of cheap HP thin clients, Lenovo USFFs, that will idle between 15-20W and still provide i3/i5 6th gen performance around this price range and take up less space. If you need multiple ethernet ports, you'll have to get one that can take an expansion NIC, so some might fall off that list (not the one above or the HP T620 mentioned earlier).
Jun 25, 2022 03:13 PM
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TypeONegativeJun 25, 2022 03:13 PM
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I bought my nephew's 2 of these, the second was only because they thought the first was broken, but it was just an unformatted external WD hard drive preventing start up (I bought the 2nd before going over and checking)

Both were well under $100 on ebay. They run Plex fine. They even play most Steam games without issues.

Shop by locale on ebay, the shipping is what affects the prices. I found a local dealer, so shipping was under $20

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g725sJun 25, 2022 05:15 PM
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Quote from Doait :
These can not be upgraded to Windows 11 (supported by MS).
Why not?

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