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Framed Ultimate Terrain Mountain Bike (Black)

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CampingWorld.com has Framed Ultimate Terrain Mountain Bike (Black) on sale for $124.99. Shipping is free.

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Available Sizes:
  • 16"
  • 18"
  • 20"
Features:
  • Lightweight aluminum frame
  • Suntour suspension fork is ready for any trail
  • 7-speed ASLM315 shifter with Shimano rear derailleur
  • Front and rear disc brakes provide crisp stopping power
  • Wide 29" x 2.1" tires provide traction for any terrain

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CampingWorld.com has Framed Ultimate Terrain Mountain Bike (Black) on sale for $124.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member AlexG30 for sharing this deal

Available Sizes:
  • 16"
  • 18"
  • 20"
Features:
  • Lightweight aluminum frame
  • Suntour suspension fork is ready for any trail
  • 7-speed ASLM315 shifter with Shimano rear derailleur
  • Front and rear disc brakes provide crisp stopping power
  • Wide 29" x 2.1" tires provide traction for any terrain

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Charlesb81
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Stem [amazon.com]
Bar [amazon.com]
Grips [amazon.com]
Pedals [amazon.com]

Be sure to watch YT for installations. Common installation mistakes for above items include over-tightening and tightening wrong direction.
chung_chang
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Start with these 2 videos and be patient:

How to Adjust a Front Derailleur [youtu.be]
How to Adjust a Rear Derailleur [youtu.be]

One main reason MTB/gravel riders upgrade to 1x (one by) drivetrain is to simplify the derailleur adjustments. This bike can be upgraded to 1x later, but would require upgrading the rear hub/wheel. There's nothing wrong with 3x drivetrain on this bike. In my opinion, 1x is more of a quality-of-life upgrade, others might tell you 1x also saves weight.

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Aug 04, 2022 04:58 PM
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Mike CAug 04, 2022 04:58 PM
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Quote from davekkk :
Yeah I don't get what's up with this fork, way too spongy. Can't get anywhere near lock out like I can with my budget hybrid bikes.
Hmm... I wonder if there is a way to mod the fork...
Aug 04, 2022 07:15 PM
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edubb11Aug 04, 2022 07:15 PM
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Quote from Mike C :
Thanks! Glad it was helpful, I was just paying it forward by putting together very helpful harvested from this thread, links posted, etc. from other posters (just a few that helped me a lot were @chung_chang, @roymunson, and @JimBanville). This was definitely a great thread and easily saved me many hours of digging through the thousands of options on Amazon, just knowing for sure the right sizes of things helped A LOT (SO MANY almost the same sized things on Amazon to dig through ).

I just finished putting all of the stuff on my bike, and the bike stand works great, first ride I was really happy with, this is a nice bike for the money, and a much more relaxed upright riding bike now that is still capable to ride light trails, exactly what I was hoping for. I haven't adjusted the derailleurs yet though... and since I think I made them worse after my first attempt at adjusting without a stand... still gotta do that before I try on a trail. Taking a bike on the trail that like dropping the chain sucks...

I do wish this fork had lockout, even going with max preload setting doesn't really help, there is no substitute for the feeling of a locked fork. For this price, what we get is more than OK IMHO... I will keep an eye out for used/cheap deal for a fork with lockout... I don't want to spend more than $100 on a fork (ideally ~$50ish) as that will put me in the neighborhood of that Kent Walmart bike for $400, which looks to have a few other very nice upgrades along with a much nicer fork, even if only mechanical disk brakes.
I mentioned this fork from randombikeparts.com earlier in the thread. I don't think you'll find another new fork with lockout, preload and rebound adjustments for $90 with the discount code shown in the screenshot. I got one for my bike and I'm very happy with my purchase.

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Aug 04, 2022 09:00 PM
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MartogAug 04, 2022 09:00 PM
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Quote from edubb11 :
I mentioned this fork from randombikeparts.com earlier in the thread. I don't think you'll find another new fork with lockout, preload and rebound adjustments for $90 with the discount code shown in the screenshot. I got one for my bike and I'm very happy with my purchase.

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Can you confirm that the product you linked to is the coil version of the XCR - not the air spring version?

If it's the air spring version, that's a hell of deal.

If it is the coil version, I'd advise those who want to upgrade from the stock fork to save up more more money and get yourself an air spring type of fork. SunTour, Rockshox, Fox, or Manitou - all make good forks once you get out of their lower end range models.

Air spring forks are generally going to be:
Lighter
Quieter
Highly tunable
Serviceable / Rebuildable
And offer much better performance.

Those are general points. You'll find exceptions of course.

Changing out a fork is a project. So I advise you get an air spring fork that you want to keep for several years. So maybe invest in one that your riding skills can grow into vs one you'll be disappointed with in 6 months.


Just my opinion tho…
Aug 04, 2022 10:10 PM
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Mike CAug 04, 2022 10:10 PM
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Quote from edubb11 :
I mentioned this fork from randombikeparts.com earlier in the thread. I don't think you'll find another new fork with lockout, preload and rebound adjustments for $90 with the discount code shown in the screenshot. I got one for my bike and I'm very happy with my purchase.

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Thanks, I forgot all about this! I had started looking at that fork, googled it for reviews, etc., fell down the rabbit hole of spring vs. air, etc., etc. and that was also when I was looking to pick all of the OTHER parts I had yet to order... forks were more complicated to research than what I was ready for, so I gave up and figured I would try the fork the bike same with for a while. Now that I know that I don't like this fork AT ALL, I will start digging in again. I didn't mention that I was HOPING to find a cheap used air fork, even if I needed to rebuild it... but I might just go with this Suntour now vs. hoping for finding a cheap yet good fork someday... now that I know how much I HATE not having lockout, thanks for reposting this deal!
Aug 04, 2022 10:19 PM
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chung_changAug 04, 2022 10:19 PM
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Quote from Martog :
Can you confirm that the product you linked to is the coil version of the XCR - not the air spring version?

If it's the air spring version, that's a hell of deal.

If it is the coil version, I'd advise those who want to upgrade from the stock fork to save up more more money and get yourself an air spring type of fork. SunTour, Rockshox, Fox, or Manitou - all make good forks once you get out of their lower end range models.

Air spring forks are generally going to be:
Lighter
Quieter
Highly tunable
Serviceable / Rebuildable
And offer much better performance.

Those are general points. You'll find exceptions of course.

Changing out a fork is a project. So I advise you get an air spring fork that you want to keep for several years. So maybe invest in one that your riding skills can grow into vs one you'll be disappointed with in 6 months.


Just my opinion tho…
Few examples of my own air forks:
  • RockShox Judy Silver TK. I bought one last year for $157 with a coupon. Current prices are only a 25% coupon away, and we're close to holiday sales season again
  • Manitou Markhour. This is usually > $200 but if you're patient, I got one used on Amazon for $150. Fork was brand new with uncut steerer tube, but factory box was beat up
  • Suntour Epixon. Just bought one a few weeks ago for $85 from Europe, no tax, free shipping. Comes with remote lockout and remote, though I may swap out for manual lockout as I don't like a cluttered cockpit. Unfortunately this is for 27.5 only so won't work on this Framed 29er, else I would have posted this here much earlier
If you look around and be patient, there are inexpensive good name brand entry air forks to be had. You can tune these forks with an air pump to match your body weight for a very plush ride on/off road, and rebound adjustment that actually work, unlike these Suntour entry coil forks with basically zero adjustments.

Or you could take a chance on some no name Chinese air forks off Amazon like Lutu, Bolany, ZTZ, Himalo...etc (I think they're all from same factory just constantly being rebranded with little internal differences) for $100 and change, though I recommend against these as I've seen too many reliability issues reported while others had no issues.
Aug 04, 2022 10:45 PM
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chung_changAug 04, 2022 10:45 PM
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Quote from Mike C :
Thanks, I forgot all about this! I had started looking at that fork, googled it for reviews, etc., fell down the rabbit hole of spring vs. air, etc., etc. and that was also when I was looking to pick all of the OTHER parts I had yet to order... forks were more complicated to research than what I was ready for, so I gave up and figured I would try the fork the bike same with for a while. Now that I know that I don't like this fork AT ALL, I will start digging in again. I didn't mention that I was HOPING to find a cheap used air fork, even if I needed to rebuild it... but I might just go with this Suntour now vs. hoping for finding a cheap yet good fork someday... now that I know how much I HATE not having lockout, thanks for reposting this deal!
If you go used, make sure fork has enough steerer tube left to go through your head tube + top cap + at least 1 spacer + stem height + couple mm. You could just measure your current fork's steer tube length. You can always buy a used fork with longer steerer tube and cut it down, but not the other way around.
Aug 04, 2022 10:46 PM
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edubb11Aug 04, 2022 10:46 PM
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Quote from Martog :
Can you confirm that the product you linked to is the coil version of the XCR - not the air spring version?

If it's the air spring version, that's a hell of deal.

If it is the coil version, I'd advise those who want to upgrade from the stock fork to save up more more money and get yourself an air spring type of fork. SunTour, Rockshox, Fox, or Manitou - all make good forks once you get out of their lower end range models.

Air spring forks are generally going to be:
Lighter
Quieter
Highly tunable
Serviceable / Rebuildable
And offer much better performance.

Those are general points. You'll find exceptions of course.

Changing out a fork is a project. So I advise you get an air spring fork that you want to keep for several years. So maybe invest in one that your riding skills can grow into vs one you'll be disappointed with in 6 months.


Just my opinion tho…
This is a coil fork. If it was an air fork it would be a screaming deal! It seems like entry level air forks from reputable brands can be found in the low $200 range.

Not everyone needs an air fork, and for my needs which is mostly paved and light trails I felt this would be more than sufficient. So far I feel I'm right.

The Trek Marlin doesn't even option an air fork until you get to the Marlin 8 which is over $1300. Based on that bike, I'd imagine that an air fork is for someone who is competing or primarily riding XC.

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Aug 04, 2022 11:22 PM
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chung_changAug 04, 2022 11:22 PM
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Quote from edubb11 :
This is a coil fork. If it was an air fork it would be a screaming deal! It seems like entry level air forks from reputable brands can be found in the low $200 range.

Not everyone needs an air fork, and for my needs which is mostly paved and light trails I felt this would be more than sufficient. So far I feel I'm right.

The Trek Marlin doesn't even option an air fork until you get to the Marlin 8 which is over $1300. Based on that bike, I'd imagine that an air fork is for someone who is competing or primarily riding XC.
There are pros and cons for both air and coiled forks. One is not always superior than the other. For a beginner, air fork is easier to adjust with an air pump + rebound and compression knobs. To adjust coiled forks, you would need to replace the coil with the correct spring rate inside the fork to match your weight. No beginner is going to do this to their budget entry coiled forks.
Aug 05, 2022 11:41 AM
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osugsxrAug 05, 2022 11:41 AM
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Quote from Mike C :
Thanks! Glad it was helpful, I was just paying it forward by putting together very helpful harvested from this thread, links posted, etc. from other posters (just a few that helped me a lot were @chung_chang, @roymunson, and @JimBanville). This was definitely a great thread and easily saved me many hours of digging through the thousands of options on Amazon, just knowing for sure the right sizes of things helped A LOT (SO MANY almost the same sized things on Amazon to dig through Big Grin).

I just finished putting all of the stuff on my bike, and the bike stand works great, first ride I was really happy with, this is a nice bike for the money, and a much more relaxed upright riding bike now that is still capable to ride light trails, exactly what I was hoping for. I haven't adjusted the derailleurs yet though... and since I think I made them worse after my first attempt at adjusting without a stand... still gotta do that before I try on a trail. Taking a bike on the trail that like dropping the chain sucks...

I do wish this fork had lockout, even going with max preload setting doesn't really help, there is no substitute for the feeling of a locked fork. For this price, what we get is more than OK IMHO... I will keep an eye out for used/cheap deal for a fork with lockout... I don't want to spend more than $100 on a fork (ideally ~$50ish) as that will put me in the neighborhood of that Kent Walmart bike for $400, which looks to have a few other very nice upgrades along with a much nicer fork, even if only mechanical disk brakes.

I havent set up the framed bike yet but will do so today most likely. I've been concerned about the height of the frame size. I can cut the seat about 1-2" if needed or should I buy an aftermarket seat . I do like the idea of upgrading the bike for FUN and possibly a new hobby for me.
The walmart kent bike seems like a better fit for me at 5'9". If I sold the Framed bike at $300, the walmart kent bike will be about $320 ish out of pocket. Think I'm headed down the rabbit hole with upgrades on either one. Smilie
Aug 05, 2022 01:09 PM
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chung_changAug 05, 2022 01:09 PM
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Quote from osugsxr :
I havent set up the framed bike yet but will do so today most likely. I've been concerned about the height of the frame size. I can cut the seat about 1-2" if needed or should I buy an aftermarket seat . I do like the idea of upgrading the bike for FUN and possibly a new hobby for me.
The walmart kent bike seems like a better fit for me at 5'9". If I sold the Framed bike at $300, the walmart kent bike will be about $320 ish out of pocket. Think I'm headed down the rabbit hole with upgrades on either one. Smilie
Doubt you'll need to cut the seat post for 2 reasons:

1. From others posts here, seems seat post could go all the way down on the 20" frame. So even if you cut the seat post, saddle won't go any lower.

2. On the 18" frame I assembled for my friend, there's probably 4" of seat post exposed above top of the seat tube for my proper riding height. I posted a pic earlier. So on a 20" frame, the saddle would just need to be lowered by 2" to stay the same height, still leaving 2" of exposed seat post. And you are taller than me and assuming your legs are longer than mine, you shouldn't need to slam the saddle all the way down for proper riding height even on a 20" frame.

Bike upgrades can become a deep rabbit hole. Just remember your upgrades should help improve your skills on the trails. This bike as-is is perfectly fine for beginners, except maybe the pedals and grips.
Aug 05, 2022 05:41 PM
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osugsxrAug 05, 2022 05:41 PM
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18" model is back in stock at $375
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osugsxrAug 05, 2022 06:41 PM
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updated CSR over the phone did drop the price to $225 for the 18" model. I still have the 20" model which Ill just sell to cover the difference. No more worries about frame size!!!
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chung_changAug 05, 2022 09:40 PM
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Quote from osugsxr :
updated CSR over the phone did drop the price to $225 for the 18" model. I still have the 20" model which Ill just sell to cover the difference. No more worries about frame size!!!
Glad you got your sizing issue sorted out. Enjoy your new bike!
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osugsxrAug 06, 2022 05:24 PM
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I set up the 20" bike today and it feels pretty comfortable to ride. Arms extended out and sitting feels good. The handle bars seem tad wide compared to my wife's electric teton bike. Standing flat footed with shoes on my crouch rests a little more on the top frame bar, similar to the hyper commute bike. I dont need to cut the seat post and its not at the lowest level. I do have an order placed for an 18" not sure if I should just keep the 20" and cancel the 18".

Will hopefully take it out for a ride today pending weather

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Aug 06, 2022 06:51 PM
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chung_changAug 06, 2022 06:51 PM
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Quote from osugsxr :
I set up the 20" bike today and it feels pretty comfortable to ride. Arms extended out and sitting feels good. The handle bars seem tad wide compared to my wife's electric teton bike. Standing flat footed with shoes on my crouch rests a little more on the top frame bar, similar to the hyper commute bike. I dont need to cut the seat post and its not at the lowest level. I do have an order placed for an 18" not sure if I should just keep the 20" and cancel the 18".

Will hopefully take it out for a ride today pending weather
If you ever plan on taking this bike to your local trails, it definitely sounds too big for you. Top tube should not be touching your junk when standing flatfooted regardless of type of bike, but especially on a mountain bike. Arms should be bent, not straight in normally riding position. Don't just take my word for it. Please do yourself a favor and search any YT videos related to MTB. Pay attention to the riders and their bikes. See their body positions on their bikes, arm and leg bends, junk clearance from top tube...etc. I bet you won't find a single video where the rider is in a similar position as you are on your 20" Framed bike, probably for very good reasons. But at the end of the day, it's your money and your bike. Ride what you feel is best for you and just enjoy it.

EDIT: For anyone interested in adding a dropper seatpost later. those usually go from 100mm travel and up. 100mm is about 4 inches. If you don't have at least 4+" of your seat post above the seat tube, a dropper upgrade most likely won't do you any good except waste money.
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