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Acer Aspire XC Desktop (Refurb): Celeron J4125, 4GB RAM, 256GB SSD

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Acer via eBay has Acer Aspire XC Desktop (Refurbished, DT.BHFAA.001) for $87.99 (price reflected in cart). Shipping is free.

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  • Intel Celeron J4125 2.00 GHz Quad-Core Processor
  • 4GB RAM
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Intel UHD Graphics 600
  • Includes Keyboard & Mouse
  • Windows 10 Home

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  • About this item:
    • This price matches a recent Frontpage Deal.
    • This item is Certified Refurbished. It has been professionally restored by an Acer approved vendor. Units are usually cosmetically indistinguishable from New products, but some may show signs of light use. Functionally, these units are equivalent to New. Certified Refurbished units will be shipped in a New Brown Box.
    • See the forum thread for additional discussion from Slickdeals members about the best uses for this budget desktop.
    • Comes with a 2-year warranty from Allstate.
  • Returns:
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Acer via eBay has Acer Aspire XC Desktop (Refurbished, DT.BHFAA.001) for $87.99 (price reflected in cart). Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member cgigate and drjs for sharing this deal.

Note, must add to cart for the sale price.

Specs
  • Intel Celeron J4125 2.00 GHz Quad-Core Processor
  • 4GB RAM
  • 256GB Solid State Drive
  • Intel UHD Graphics 600
  • Includes Keyboard & Mouse
  • Windows 10 Home

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake | Staff
  • About this item:
    • This price matches a recent Frontpage Deal.
    • This item is Certified Refurbished. It has been professionally restored by an Acer approved vendor. Units are usually cosmetically indistinguishable from New products, but some may show signs of light use. Functionally, these units are equivalent to New. Certified Refurbished units will be shipped in a New Brown Box.
    • See the forum thread for additional discussion from Slickdeals members about the best uses for this budget desktop.
    • Comes with a 2-year warranty from Allstate.
  • Returns:
    • Free 30 day returns. Seller pays for return shipping.

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drjs
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Mine idle at 6W.
AquaGalley8616
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This 88 dollar PC is not a powerful PC. That is correct. I'm not being duped into thinking this is a POWERFUL PC!
This is a laptop PC who's motherboard has been placed in a tiny tower case and can run windows 10/11, and you can add more ram, and comes with NVMe, with external power supply that laptop's use! So very, very low power 24/7 machine 6 watts idle.
It has bluetooth/wifi,ethernet port, 4 usb 2 ports, 2 usb 3 ports. 2 year warranty, intel 600 internal graphics, hdmi and vga port,

You know that Walmart currently is selling this at 299 dollars with good user review average.

I object to the word "duped" in your post. There are 2-3 threads on this device on slickdeals , with things people are doing with it.

Like the Raspberry Pi, it is hobby device, and cheaper than Pi,( if you were to buy Pi plus all the extra's you need to buy to complete Pi package).

Hopefully, people read YOUR post, and read posts from others that discuss the positive aspect of this device, so they know what they are buying and not buying. Alert heard, sir. . Your mission is accomplished. Torpedoes away. Next target!
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For those of you wanting to use this thing as a NAS, you're looking at three issues:

Where to mount the disks? As previously mentioned, there's space for a 3.5" disk and a 2.5" disk if you removed the optical drive. Alternatively, you could remove the entire cage and replace it with something that'd accept two 3.5" disks [amazon.com] (I haven't actually tried it because I haven't received the computer yet, but it should work). Similarly, it should not be too difficult to put four 2.5" disks in the case. Use a cage if you want to be fancy. Velcro or duct tape if you just don't gaf. Or get a bigger case, but then you'd lose the cute little form factor.

Where to get the power? Y-splitters. Just don't overload the power supply.

Where to connect the data cables? Ah, now this is the fun part. See previous post regarding the limitations of the PCIe bus. If the goal is to install as many disks as possible, one way would be to put SATA controllers in the ×16, ×4, and ×2 slots. Yes, the M-keyed M.2 slot and even the E-keyed M.2 slot could probably be used for PCIe modules, including SATA controllers and Ethernet controllers.

Each lane of PCIe 2.0 provides 500 MB/s of bandwidth, just barely sufficient for SATA III's 600 MB/s. This is obviously not a problem for HDD, but could limit SSD performance. You might want to be... creative... with port selection, if you plan to use SSDs and HDDs together. For example, if you put a 2-port SATA controller in the ×2 slot, you might want to pair an SSD with a HDD on that same controller to optimize bandwidth usage.

Also remember the limitations of the DMI link. If you're using this machine as a NAS, your disks might be sharing PCIe bandwidth with your NIC. You could potentially install many disks and a lot of other stuff, but they'd compete for bandwidth. Proceed with caution.

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Quote from musashi_1707 :
You're right, I just threw money at it. I purchased a low profile Geforce GT 730 with 2gb ddr5 and the ports that I want.. just over $30. That is the kind of money I'm throwing at this thing.. and to get it to dual channel matched pair 16GB total? I'll have to throw another $25..

So let's see how a quad core system with 4mb l2 cache (the primary reason Celerons are slow is historically low onboard cache) at a 2.0ghz clock, with 16gb ddr4 memory in dual channel and a geforce gt 730 dedicated graphics card with 2gb of ddr5 (card is actually built on PCIE2.0 architecture) dvd, solid state, extremely low power draw.. let's see how that stacks up for a grand total of about $150 (8gb ddr4 sodimm was on hand).. I wonder how well it will perform in the games I enjoy from time to time..

Any computer professional knows that celerons are lighter weight processors, HOWEVER, when you put this cpu next to older generation i5's, it's on par, because of advances in tech.. It's literally neck and neck with the PC I'm on now, and once upgraded it will be in the ballpark regarding video capability as well.. How do those games run on my current system you ask? Not too shabby for an oldie but goodie.. Not bad at all. Downright playable.
I'm actually going to agree with you here. If you throw some loose change at it as well, you might have some luck with it. I'm really just not a fan of computer refurbs, especially cheapies, because there's going to be little effort in making sure they are up to spec.

Ideally, I think a better use for PCs like this are in bunches to form networks. Say for a business to run a cataloging system with all the computers working independently while also being able to communicate back and forth with one another. As far as gaming though, it still comes across as a "why bother" in my mind. I'm sure it will run some older games, but anything that's slightly graphic intensive is going to end up on low settings just to run it.
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Quote from JMBauer74 :
I'm actually going to agree with you here. If you throw some loose change at it as well, you might have some luck with it. I'm really just not a fan of computer refurbs, especially cheapies, because there's going to be little effort in making sure they are up to spec.

Ideally, I think a better use for PCs like this are in bunches to form networks. Say for a business to run a cataloging system with all the computers working independently while also being able to communicate back and forth with one another. As far as gaming though, it still comes across as a "why bother" in my mind. I'm sure it will run some older games, but anything that's slightly graphic intensive is going to end up on low settings just to run it.
what is up? You are not going soft .... on the Celeron 88 gang, are you?
Don't forget, you are suppose to stay in character, you are the black hat bad-evil doer. And the Celeron 88 gang is hard core white hat guys. Smilie
Glad you are loosing up, and hanging with us, a little bit. Wink
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Quote from JMBauer74 :
I'm actually going to agree with you here. If you throw some loose change at it as well, you might have some luck with it. I'm really just not a fan of computer refurbs, especially cheapies, because there's going to be little effort in making sure they are up to spec.

Ideally, I think a better use for PCs like this are in bunches to form networks. Say for a business to run a cataloging system with all the computers working independently while also being able to communicate back and forth with one another. As far as gaming though, it still comes across as a "why bother" in my mind. I'm sure it will run some older games, but anything that's slightly graphic intensive is going to end up on low settings just to run it.
what is up? You are not going soft .... on the Celeron 88 gang, are you?
Don't forget, you are suppose to stay in character, you are the black hat bad-evil doer. And the Celeron 88 gang is hard core white hat guys. Smilie
Glad you are loosing up, and hanging with us, a little bit. Wink
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Quote from JMBauer74 :
I'm actually going to agree with you here. If you throw some loose change at it as well, you might have some luck with it. I'm really just not a fan of computer refurbs, especially cheapies, because there's going to be little effort in making sure they are up to spec.

Ideally, I think a better use for PCs like this are in bunches to form networks. Say for a business to run a cataloging system with all the computers working independently while also being able to communicate back and forth with one another. As far as gaming though, it still comes across as a "why bother" in my mind. I'm sure it will run some older games, but anything that's slightly graphic intensive is going to end up on low settings just to run it.
Right brother and I mean some of us have been gaming on low to mid since the 90's.. No big deal I'd rather have my eyes bamboozled by other things if ya know what I mean ;-) I think you'll be surprised with what I'm able to scrape out of this thing. I'll be posting back once I get things assembled and have some useful data. Cheers!
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Quote from AquaGalley8616 :
what is up? You are not going soft .... on the Celeron 88 gang, are you?
Don't forget, you are suppose to stay in character, you are the black hat bad-evil doer. And the Celeron 88 gang is hard core white hat guys.
Glad you are loosing up, and hanging with us, a little bit.
I was doing nothing more than sharing my opinion to begin with. Have no problem with people disagreeing, and if the "Celeron gang" didn't come at me, I probably would've never returned to this thread and left things along.

Just because I wouldn't buy it, doesn't mean I don't think anybody else can or should. It's just not worth the $$$ to me even for $88. If people do buy them, I hope they are able to get one that's been properly refurbished.
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Anyone able to transcode 4k through PMS onto local client?
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Right brother and I mean some of us have been gaming on low to mid since the 90's.. No big deal I'd rather have my eyes bamboozled by other things if ya know what I mean ;-) I think you'll be surprised with what I'm able to scrape out of this thing. I'll be posting back once I get things assembled and have some useful data. Cheers!
Good luck with it dude. I hope it makes all your computing dreams come true.
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Quote from AquaGalley8616 :
these snap shots should help, ... it is my userbenchmark test , and I included extra sections that rates the different hardware in PC.
Very helpful, thank you so much. Might I ask.. Are you pleased with Win 11 on this box? I honestly haven't tried it yet.. Did you notice the system bog down at all when you switched to 11 or is it actually more efficient? Thanks again.
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Good luck with it dude. I hope it makes all your computing dreams come true.
I'll give you this, you've got longevity ;-) Something to add is that the low power usage IS actually of considerable value to me as well. When I'm not tearing through the latest gaming titles this little box should be sipping power quite nicely. I am confident my laptop takes more power than this..
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Anyone able to transcode 4k through PMS onto local client?
Tried this on a different PC with the same CPU and 8GB RAM, no go at any bitrate (original or transcoded).

1080p or lower transcoded immediately without issue.
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Does anyone who has the machine happen to have a motherboard number handy? I'm looking specifically for the max ram clock speed for ddr4 sodimms..

Thanks in advance.
Sincerely,
88celly

Edit: I went ahead and ordered a "matching" stick to what I have now (8gb hynix 2133). It seems that ram clock speed is a small enough improvement that even if this system supported higher speeds it would not be worth it at all to invest in a whole new set.

So my total cost on this machine is indeed right around $150. Everything is in the mail and I will post back here with some data once received.
Many people posted the MB pictures, you should be able to read MB number . I can share the information of MB clocks, see the attachment . it is hard to know which RAM is compatible with system. I own 16gb Samsung, 16gb hynix, 2x8gb TeamGroup are working. Kingston 8gb memory does not work for some reason
Last edited by cgigate July 19, 2022 at 04:27 PM.
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I am attaching few pictures of internals for anyone looking for these.

Attachment 11787682 Attachment 11787691 - Motherboard snaps
Attachment 11787694 - It has a long SATA power connector tucked inside that has another end connected to DVD drive with a 2 wire smaller connector. This can be used for 3.5" HDD; all it requires is SATA data cable to add another 3.5" HDD.
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Quote from musashi_1707 :
You're right, I just threw money at it. I purchased a low profile Geforce GT 730 with 2gb ddr5 and the ports that I want.. just over $30. That is the kind of money I'm throwing at this thing..
FYI, I temporarily put the Acer motherboard in an ATX mid tower case and tried a GT 1030, RX 550, and a HD 5450. I did not get any video output on any of them. The PCI-E slot may not support GPU's. I dont know if someone could run GPU-Z or some other software to get some info on what the slot supports. I no longer have Windows loaded to check.

Update...I did find the below command for linux and it shows x16 but not sure what it will take to get any GPU to work in it. Good luck to you.

$ sudo dmidecode | grep 'PCI'
PCI is supported
Designation: PCIE1
Type: x16 PCI Express 2 x16
Type: x1 PCI Express 2 x1


UPDATE...someone got a gpu to work. see post 385 from @musashi_1707 https://slickdeals.net/f/15916111-acer-aspire-xc-desktop-refurb-celeron-j4125-4gb-ram-256gb-ssd-88?p=156469333#post156469333
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oh, gee, I did something wrong with my two 88 dollar celeron's gang.

I bought an extra 8 gig ram stick, and In experimenting with trying it in different configurations. On a hot 90 degree day that is humid, I seemed to have screwed up both PC's.

I can't get either one to work, after doing this experimenting ram dance.

Is there a time out type interval with checking ram when you turn it on, or something I'm missing. I mostly deal with desktop memory, so this laptop memory might have some reset switch or something I need to do.

They were both working before I started playing with the ram sticks!

Suggestions. I am in process of doing youtube search for answer.

I just told someone else the other day , "don't fix what is not broken", .... and I just did that. Smilie
Instant karma! Smilie

I'll have fun with this , and play with it, suggestions welcomed. Smilie
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Quote from AquaGalley8616 :
oh, gee, I did something wrong with my two 88 dollar celeron's gang.

I bought an extra 8 gig ram stick, and In experimenting with trying it in different configurations. On a hot 90 degree day that is humid, I seemed to have screwed up both PC's.

I can't get either one to work, after doing this experimenting ram dance.

Is there a time out type interval with checking ram when you turn it on, or something I'm missing. I mostly deal with desktop memory, so this laptop memory might have some reset switch or something I need to do.

They were both working before I started playing with the ram sticks!

Suggestions. I am in process of doing youtube search for answer.

I just told someone else the other day , "don't fix what is not broken", .... and I just did that. Smilie
Instant karma! Smilie

I'll have fun with this , and play with it, suggestions welcomed. Smilie
Does the original 4gb ram still work ?
Just make sure the motherboard is still working.
90 degree is not hot, just warm.
We are 114 degree now in north Texas, J4125 doesn't care
Last edited by cgigate July 19, 2022 at 05:50 PM.

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