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Good deal, but for the new-gen *gamers* keep in mind: "limited to a 60Hz refresh rate, lacks HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, and doesn't support variable refresh rate technology (VRR)"
Personally i rather have the c1 for $800. Prices been dropping a lot.
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08-14-2022 at 04:42 PM.
Good deal, but for the new-gen *gamers* keep in mind: "limited to a 60Hz refresh rate, lacks HDMI 2.1 bandwidth, and doesn't support variable refresh rate technology (VRR)"
I'm considering a LG48C1 as well and this interests me. RTINGS comparison[rtings.com] makes them seem similar, but C1 has less judder and a higher frame rate. And for those of you who don't know what judder is, it seems like it's jank (inconsistent frame delivery) which visually looks like vibration.
Our eyes are more attuned to inconsistencies than to frame rate. So while you might not be able to tell the difference in 120Hz vs. 60Hz, you can probably spot judder / jank.
That said, does the amount of judder really make $150 difference if I'm not gaming much or watching much fast action with this TV?
Would have been awesome if this was for the 55 incher instead. Recently bought a 2021 TCL 5-Series 55" LED Full Array Backlight QLED Google TV with 60 contrast control dimming zones for a bedroom & it has really good PQ. Not as good as my two reference model TVs though. My 2019 LG C9 65" OLED TV & my recently purchased Samsung QN90A 85" Neo QLED TV, which is a Mini-LED Full Array Backlight QLED combination TV with 1300 contrast control dimming zones.
And the reason I went with Samsung's Neo QLED over an 83" OLED, is because I had significant burn-in issues with my LG OLED, although still really watchable & the price is just too Goddamn high. (TGH) Plus the Mini-LED Full Array QLED combination produces near OLED black levels & vibrant colors at the same time being much brighter. And not in a washed out insane brightness either, just a perfect saturated color brightness with deep blacks.
That's my recommendation, until OLED could get brighter & prove it's burn-in issues are behind them, I'm probably going with the next best thing, which at the moment is Neo QLED. Although Samsung & Sony have released a much brighter QD-OLED model which adds a Quantum Dot QLED panel to it's OLED display for a much brighter TV. But then there's still burn-in.🤷🏻 ♂️
It may be worth a try to check Costco for similar pricing on a bigger size. I just purchased a 65" store display of this model for $650 this week at my local store.
Would have been awesome if this was for the 55 incher instead. Recently bought a 2021 TCL 5-Series 55" LED Full Array Backlight QLED Google TV with 60 contrast control dimming zones for a bedroom & it has really good PQ. Not as good as my two reference model TVs though. My 2019 LG C9 65" OLED TV & my recently purchased Samsung QN90A 85" Neo QLED TV, which is a Mini-LED Full Array Backlight QLED combination TV with 1300 contrast control dimming zones.
And the reason I went with Samsung's Neo QLED over an 83" OLED, is because I had significant burn-in issues with my LG OLED, although still really watchable & the price is just too Goddamn high. (TGH) Plus the Mini-LED Full Array QLED combination produces near OLED black levels & vibrant colors at the same time being much brighter. And not in a washed out insane brightness either, just a perfect saturated color brightness with deep blacks.
That's my recommendation, until OLED could get brighter & prove it's burn-in issues are behind them, I'm probably going with the next best thing, which at the moment is Neo QLED. Although Samsung & Sony have released a much brighter QD-OLED model which adds a Quantum Dot QLED panel to it's OLED display for a much brighter TV. But then there's still burn-in.🤷🏻 ♂️
Sounds like you actually KNOW what you're talking about and aren't solely justifying your choices...
I bought the TCL 8 Series 75 over 2 years ago. I had owned Panasonic Plasmas prior. Oled has many strengths. Its' primary weakness is not being bright enough for HDR highlights.
I cant wait for the next generation of micro led panels.
I had owned Panasonic Plasmas prior. Oled has many strengths. Its' primary weakness is not being bright enough for HDR highlights.
A major weakness for Oled, Qled and all other TVs on the market is motion handling. If you are acustomed to smooth motion from your old Pioneers, LGs and Panasonics, you cannot watch sports or motion on a new TV and not be constantly distracted by the motion problems.
You do realize that VRR is not at all dependent on refresh rate? You can have VRR support for 20Hz. There are plenty of displays that support VRR on 60Hz screens.
Sounds like you actually KNOW what you're talking about and aren't solely justifying your choices...
I bought the TCL 8 Series 75 over 2 years ago. I had owned Panasonic Plasmas prior. Oled has many strengths. Its' primary weakness is not being bright enough for HDR highlights.
I cant wait for the next generation of micro led panels.
You are going to be waiting quite some time for micro led to be even close to current OLED prices. Maybe a half decade, likely longer. Look how long it took OLED to get to where it is. Not saying you can't wait, just that you may be in for a longer ride than you were expecting.
Would have been awesome if this was for the 55 incher instead. Recently bought a 2021 TCL 5-Series 55" LED Full Array Backlight QLED Google TV with 60 contrast control dimming zones for a bedroom & it has really good PQ. Not as good as my two reference model TVs though. My 2019 LG C9 65" OLED TV & my recently purchased Samsung QN90A 85" Neo QLED TV, which is a Mini-LED Full Array Backlight QLED combination TV with 1300 contrast control dimming zones.
And the reason I went with Samsung's Neo QLED over an 83" OLED, is because I had significant burn-in issues with my LG OLED, although still really watchable & the price is just too Goddamn high. (TGH) Plus the Mini-LED Full Array QLED combination produces near OLED black levels & vibrant colors at the same time being much brighter. And not in a washed out insane brightness either, just a perfect saturated color brightness with deep blacks.
That's my recommendation, until OLED could get brighter & prove it's burn-in issues are behind them, I'm probably going with the next best thing, which at the moment is Neo QLED. Although Samsung & Sony have released a much brighter QD-OLED model which adds a Quantum Dot QLED panel to it's OLED display for a much brighter TV. But then there's still burn-in.🤷🏻 ♂️
I think the warranties on the qd-oled panels cover burn in now. LGs 5 year warranty on certain EVO panels cover it as well.
As a point, I have a 55 cx that has been used exclusively for gaming for 2 years/2000 hours, no burn in at all.
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Our eyes are more attuned to inconsistencies than to frame rate. So while you might not be able to tell the difference in 120Hz vs. 60Hz, you can probably spot judder / jank.
That said, does the amount of judder really make $150 difference if I'm not gaming much or watching much fast action with this TV?
Would have been awesome if this was for the 55 incher instead. Recently bought a 2021 TCL 5-Series 55" LED Full Array Backlight QLED Google TV with 60 contrast control dimming zones for a bedroom & it has really good PQ. Not as good as my two reference model TVs though. My 2019 LG C9 65" OLED TV & my recently purchased Samsung QN90A 85" Neo QLED TV, which is a Mini-LED Full Array Backlight QLED combination TV with 1300 contrast control dimming zones.
And the reason I went with Samsung's Neo QLED over an 83" OLED, is because I had significant burn-in issues with my LG OLED, although still really watchable & the price is just too Goddamn high. (TGH) Plus the Mini-LED Full Array QLED combination produces near OLED black levels & vibrant colors at the same time being much brighter. And not in a washed out insane brightness either, just a perfect saturated color brightness with deep blacks.
That's my recommendation, until OLED could get brighter & prove it's burn-in issues are behind them, I'm probably going with the next best thing, which at the moment is Neo QLED. Although Samsung & Sony have released a much brighter QD-OLED model which adds a Quantum Dot QLED panel to it's OLED display for a much brighter TV. But then there's still burn-in.🤷🏻 ♂️
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And the reason I went with Samsung's Neo QLED over an 83" OLED, is because I had significant burn-in issues with my LG OLED, although still really watchable & the price is just too Goddamn high. (TGH) Plus the Mini-LED Full Array QLED combination produces near OLED black levels & vibrant colors at the same time being much brighter. And not in a washed out insane brightness either, just a perfect saturated color brightness with deep blacks.
That's my recommendation, until OLED could get brighter & prove it's burn-in issues are behind them, I'm probably going with the next best thing, which at the moment is Neo QLED. Although Samsung & Sony have released a much brighter QD-OLED model which adds a Quantum Dot QLED panel to it's OLED display for a much brighter TV. But then there's still burn-in.🤷🏻 ♂️
Sounds like you actually KNOW what you're talking about and aren't solely justifying your choices...
I bought the TCL 8 Series 75 over 2 years ago. I had owned Panasonic Plasmas prior. Oled has many strengths. Its' primary weakness is not being bright enough for HDR highlights.
I cant wait for the next generation of micro led panels.
I bought the TCL 8 Series 75 over 2 years ago. I had owned Panasonic Plasmas prior. Oled has many strengths. Its' primary weakness is not being bright enough for HDR highlights.
I cant wait for the next generation of micro led panels.
You are going to be waiting quite some time for micro led to be even close to current OLED prices. Maybe a half decade, likely longer. Look how long it took OLED to get to where it is. Not saying you can't wait, just that you may be in for a longer ride than you were expecting.
And the reason I went with Samsung's Neo QLED over an 83" OLED, is because I had significant burn-in issues with my LG OLED, although still really watchable & the price is just too Goddamn high. (TGH) Plus the Mini-LED Full Array QLED combination produces near OLED black levels & vibrant colors at the same time being much brighter. And not in a washed out insane brightness either, just a perfect saturated color brightness with deep blacks.
That's my recommendation, until OLED could get brighter & prove it's burn-in issues are behind them, I'm probably going with the next best thing, which at the moment is Neo QLED. Although Samsung & Sony have released a much brighter QD-OLED model which adds a Quantum Dot QLED panel to it's OLED display for a much brighter TV. But then there's still burn-in.🤷🏻 ♂️
I think the warranties on the qd-oled panels cover burn in now. LGs 5 year warranty on certain EVO panels cover it as well.
As a point, I have a 55 cx that has been used exclusively for gaming for 2 years/2000 hours, no burn in at all.