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14TB WD Red Plus SATA 3.5" Internal NAS Hard Drive

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Western Digital has 14TB WD Red Plus SATA 3.5" Internal NAS Hard Drive (WD140EFGX) on sale for $209.99. Shipping is free.

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Western Digital has 14TB WD Red Plus SATA 3.5" Internal NAS Hard Drive (WD140EFGX) on sale for $209.99. Shipping is free.

Newegg has 14TB WD Red Plus SATA 3.5" Internal NAS Hard Drive (WD140EFGX) on sale for $209.99. Shipping is free.

BH Photo Video has 14TB WD Red Plus SATA 3.5" Internal NAS Hard Drive (WDBAVV0140HNC-WRSN) on sale for $209.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member sr71 for finding this deal.

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    • 3-year limited warranty
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    • Newegg return policy here

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madcow3417
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Datasheets aside, backblaze tends to record a noticeably higher failure rate with Seagate than with WD.
Stryder5
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Good price point at $15/TB

Know why the BB listing is a different model? WD140EFFX vs WD140EFGX

Can't find whether the BB listing has CMR or not.

EDIT: Has CMR. Don't see a clear difference on this WD chart
https://documents.westerndigital....us-hdd.pdf

The only difference was this footnote: Actual spindle motor rotational speed for this model is 7200 RPM; although ID Device may report 5400 to reflect previous Performance Class designation.
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I would avoid this drive after looking at the datasheet: https://documents.westerndigital....us-hdd.pdf

It has 1,000,000 hours MTBF, a 3 year warranty and only rated for 180TB/year.

The Seagate ST14000NM001G 14TB drive has a 2,500,000 hours MTBF, a 5 year warranty and rated for 550TB/year. It has been on sale for $200 recently but is currently ~$230 at most etailers. I would pay an extra $20 to have a much better drive.

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BlueVoyager308Aug 30, 2022 04:57 PM
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Quote from madcow3417 :
Datasheets aside, backblaze tends to record a noticeably higher failure rate with Seagate than with WD.
Need to be model specific. Seagate and WD both have cheap models and luxury models. That Seagate 550TB/year is clearly a better hard drive than the WD 180TB/year econo line-up.
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Tourist1292Aug 30, 2022 05:47 PM
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Quote from solki :
pick up 2 from wd, since it was sold out on bb.
It is actually cheaper at WD with 10% cashback plus another 5% with Discover at Paypal. There is also 12% cash back through Paypal but it is not as reliable as the 10% one.
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wiseghostAug 30, 2022 05:56 PM
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Quote from Dopamin3 :
I would avoid this drive after looking at the datasheet: https://documents.westerndigital....us-hdd.pdf

It has 1,000,000 hours MTBF, a 3 year warranty and only rated for 180TB/year.

The Seagate ST14000NM001G 14TB drive has a 2,500,000 hours MTBF, a 5 year warranty and rated for 550TB/year. It has been on sale for $200 recently but is currently ~$230 at most etailers. I would pay an extra $20 to have a much better drive.
I take you points, but if you read the comments in the recent seagate thread, you'll see tons of people trashing the Seagate and recommending to go WD instead. It's funny how in every HDD deal there are people who would complain about the reliability of that specific manufacturer.
I guess IRL both are pretty close. I ordered two 14tb WD Reds for my new DS920 and one of them was DOA. I ordered one Exos and now I have one WD and one Seagate spinning in the NAS. Will see which one dies first, haha 😆
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Tourist1292Aug 30, 2022 06:08 PM
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Quote from BlueVoyager308 :
Need to be model specific. Seagate and WD both have cheap models and luxury models. That Seagate 550TB/year is clearly a better hard drive than the WD 180TB/year econo line-up.
For enterprise, sure the Seagate deal is better although the drive is noiser. For home use NAS, most people would not even use 50% of the 180TB/year (500GB/day) and the drive will be retired within 100,000 hours of use. So there is still less than 10% chance of failure after 10+ years of use. So it is likely spending $20 for nothing but deal with a more noisy drive for its life.
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xllbenllxAug 30, 2022 06:12 PM
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Quote from madcow3417 :
Datasheets aside, backblaze tends to record a noticeably higher failure rate with Seagate than with WD.
different product lines than the ones being compared here; I believe the backblaze drives were barracudas. unless there's a new report out with the same results? I'm not a Seagate fan, but will admit that the exoses and ironwolfs are a different animal than their predecessors
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lastwraithAug 30, 2022 07:00 PM
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Quote from e2m :
Can anyone recommend an external enclosure for this drive (single bay)? Thanks.
For a basic single 3.5" USB enclosure, something like this would probably be fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Ex...00LS5NFQ2/
It's great if you swap out drives once in a while but not all the time. If you swap drives all the time you probably want a "toaster" style dock where the drives stand upright in it.
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Ex...B07415KV63

Moving up from there, Mediasonic has USB enclosures for multiple drives that will do RAID/JBOD etc.
You can also do a single enclosure with ethernet or step up to a basic NAS from QNAP or Synology.

I would usually grab an enclosure at Micro Center but I figured Amazon links are more universally useful without knowing specifics.
Last edited by lastwraith August 30, 2022 at 12:03 PM.
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RyanR3826Aug 30, 2022 07:14 PM
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Quote from grendelrt :
Are all the 14TB 7200RPM now? Prefer 5400 to keep heat and noise down, had no issues needing more speed than that.
I ordered one a few years ago, it was 5400. I've ordered many this year, and they've all been 7200

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it's not a guarantee you'll get one vs the other. BestBuy sells the retail version of the drive whatever you get probably depends on when it was packed.

Quote from Stryder5 :
Good price point at $15/TB

Know why the BB listing is a different model? WD140EFFX vs WD140EFGX

Can't find whether the BB listing has CMR or not.

EDIT: Has CMR. Don't see a clear difference on this WD chart
https://documents.westerndigital....us-hdd.pdf

The only difference was this footnote: Actual spindle motor rotational speed for this model is 7200 RPM; although ID Device may report 5400 to reflect previous Performance Class designation.
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Dingo55Aug 30, 2022 07:32 PM
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Quote from madcow3417 :
Datasheets aside, backblaze tends to record a noticeably higher failure rate with Seagate than with WD.
Red Plus is a consumer drive. Backblaze is not reporting failure rates on any Red Plus drives. Seagate Exos is without a doubt a better drive than any Red Plus. The WD Red Pro is comparable to the Exos.
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I'm one of the guys that lost a ton on 1.5TB Seagates going waay back. All of them eventually died while I do still have a lot of functional 2TB WD drives.

But those were, indeed, cheap drives. I would expect Seagate Exos x16 drives to do very well. The two 14TB Exos x16 drives I have are helium drives and pretty quiet. Unknown if this WD deal is He filled. The 12TB WD Red Plus I also recently got was not He filled (but I suspect still pretty reliable)
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another alternative is the 18TB My Book @Amazon today.
it has the same wty and adds a few TB, only drawback is the built-in encryption for some.

Quote from e2m :
Can anyone recommend an external enclosure for this drive (single bay)? Thanks.
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BlueVoyager308Aug 30, 2022 08:26 PM
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Quote from Tourist1292 :
For enterprise, sure the Seagate deal is better although the drive is noiser. For home use NAS, most people would not even use 50% of the 180TB/year (500GB/day) and the drive will be retired within 100,000 hours of use. So there is still less than 10% chance of failure after 10+ years of use. So it is likely spending $20 for nothing but deal with a more noisy drive for its life.
550TB/year vs 180TB/year indicates different levels of standards. To me it translates Robust vs Acceptable, but less robust. And what do we want for a hard drive? Robust.
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Quote from NervousLake876 :
I'm one of the guys that lost a ton on 1.5TB Seagates going waay back. All of them eventually died while I do still have a lot of functional 2TB WD drives.

But those were, indeed, cheap drives. I would expect Seagate Exos x16 drives to do very well. The two 14TB Exos x16 drives I have are helium drives and pretty quiet. Unknown if this WD deal is He filled. The 12TB WD Red Plus I also recently got was not He filled (but I suspect still pretty reliable)
Most people claim the Seagate Exos x16 are loud. I have my doubts. My own 8TB helium filled 7200rpm Seagate is also quiet.

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Quote from Dopamin3 :
I would avoid this drive after looking at the datasheet: https://documents.westerndigital....us-hdd.pdf

It has 1,000,000 hours MTBF, a 3 year warranty and only rated for 180TB/year.

The Seagate ST14000NM001G 14TB drive has a 2,500,000 hours MTBF, a 5 year warranty and rated for 550TB/year. It has been on sale for $200 recently but is currently ~$230 at most etailers. I would pay an extra $20 to have a much better drive.
See backblaze failure rates. That and my own [anecdotal] experience with Seagate over 30 years makes me stay away from them.

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