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Reolink.com has 4-Camera 8MP 4K H.265 PoE Security Camera System w/ 3X Optical Zoom & 2TB HDD (RLK8-822D4-A) on sale for $464.99 when you apply promo code de822akit in cart. Shipping is free.
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- RLN8-410 Base Unit
- 4x RLC-822A Cameras
- NVR Power Adapter
- HDMI Cable
- USB Mouse
- Network Cables
- 4x Mounting Template
- 4x Waterproof Lid
- 4x Pack of Screws
Features:
- 4K 8MP Ultra HD
- 3X Optical Zoom
- Person/Vehicle Detection
- 8-Channel NVR
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- This price is $155 lower (25% savings) than the list price.
- See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.
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Reolink.com has 4-Camera 8MP 4K H.265 PoE Security Camera System w/ 3X Optical Zoom & 2TB HDD (RLK8-822D4-A) on sale for $464.99 when you apply promo code de822akit in cart. Shipping is free.
Thanks to staff member f12_26 for finding this deal.
Includes:
Features:
Thanks to staff member f12_26 for finding this deal.
Includes:
- RLN8-410 Base Unit
- 4x RLC-822A Cameras
- NVR Power Adapter
- HDMI Cable
- USB Mouse
- Network Cables
- 4x Mounting Template
- 4x Waterproof Lid
- 4x Pack of Screws
Features:
- 4K 8MP Ultra HD
- 3X Optical Zoom
- Person/Vehicle Detection
- 8-Channel NVR
Editor's Notes
Written by oceanlake- About this deal:
- This price is $155 lower (25% savings) than the list price.
- See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.
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So far all the Reolink cameras I have seen use more affordable and smaller sensors and do not do well in low light conditions
Very happy with the quality and ease of setup. I would recommend getting one of the 2 way audio cameras with color night vision, the color night vision acts like a flood light (you can turn it off completely, auto, or to come on per a schedule you can setup.), great for areas of your house that are dark, they are very bright...
Very customizable, there's even a buzzer that you can setup to make noise from the dvr when it detects a person (ie ours is setup to make an audible noise when someone is near the front yard).
I have the 2tb dvr with 2 RLC-811A cameras and 1 duo2 180 degree camera, currently get 10 days of 24/7 recording, it is expandable to 6tb internal and 6 tb external via esata. I did have a problem with the duo2 camera spotlights not coming on when person was detected, reolink support responded same day with new firmware update to fix the problem.
Quality is great, can read license plates in daytime 30' away on angle while cars moving 30mph.
PLEASE post your videos here of moving subjects .. I am eagerly looking forward to a good Reolink low light image capture of a moving suspect ..
Feel free to post at ipcamtalk, or if you like on youtube ( and I will be happy to share it )
https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/dec...ann.50584/
btw here is an example of Reolink low light issues as shared on youtube by LifeHacker ..
https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/reo...ing.65014/
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So far all the Reolink cameras I have seen use more affordable and smaller sensors and do not do well in low light conditions
So VMS software like Blue Iris basically makes your Windows PC into an NVR. A big benefit of this is you get a faster CPU / processing and more flexibility this way vs a NVR box from Hikvision OEM / Dahua OEM / other .. as most NVR boxes are designed to be as affordable as possible to reduce the cost point to the customer, and often you can hit the bandwidth limit of cheaper boxes if you have many 8MP cameras.
https://en.wikipedia.or
same thing goes for Dahua. i'll stick to Nest, something that's US based and not CPP controlled
https://en.wikipedia.or
Pros:
* Not cloud-dependent. The NVR manages everything without depending on outside services.
* Image quality is excellent, even in low/no light. I can easily read my neighbor's mailbox numbers from about 40 yards away. Moving license plates are a bit more of a challenge, but still obtainable.
* Very affordable system.
* Support is relatively quick to respond.
* POE cameras make setup simple.
* Phone app support allows viewing and listening of audio through your NVR from anywhere you have a data/wi-fi signal. Very simple to set up.
* The nighttime LED's are quite powerful and light up a substantial area.
* The alert system is great, and is configured per camera. I have certain areas set to alert me if it detects a person or vehicle. "Any motion" is also an option, which is good for indoors. It has multiple options to help tweak things.
* Firmware updates often add new functionality.
* Seems like it can support up to 12 cameras (channels) with the 8-port NVR. You'd just have to put some of the cameras on a separate POE switch and connect it to one of the NVR switch ports.
Cons:
* Updating the camera firmware is not easy at all, and can't currently be done through the NVR. You have to put the camera into a POE injector on your regular network, find the DHCP IP address given to it, download & install the firmware directly to the camera, then put it back into the NVR.
* Playback can be a bit tricky trying to find a spot, and the interface sometimes crashes on me. It'll probably be fixed, but is currently an occasional issue.
* While humans can't see the infrared, insects can and often hang out around the camera at night. Moths, spiders, etc. It can sometimes be a challenge to keep spider webs away from the cameras.
* The cameras sometimes pick up spider web reflections as a person.
I may edit this as I remember things, but that should give you a general idea. I'm quite happy with this setup.
This imho is the most important job / task to do .. once you've done a good job on this - you can change out the IP PoE cameras and kit to newer models as you need.
Note to everyone here: Lorex used to have some decent 8MP 1/1.8" cameras and kits with those cameras, which I would happily recommend .. and then add 1-2 4MP 1/1.8" Dahua OEM camera(s) to cover the most important low light position .. that was a good reasonable option. ( nothing is perfect in security camera world .. thus I like to augment a core IP PoE system with a couple of cloud cameras covering my front of the house )
Unfortunately, Lorex cameras that I have looked at recently all have smaller sensor models now
Hi SamsungS21
Best to get the same OEM of the NVR as the cameras you are using . as well as getting the NVR model that supports that "tier" from that OEM .. ( tier, as in supporting certain AI / Smart / Motion functions .. )
Try to get more PoE ports / Channels than you initially think you need.
If you are going Reolink cameras - best to match them with Reolink Cameras
If you are going Lorex ( mostly Dahua OEM ), Amcrest, other brand cameras - those are Dahua OEM so you can go with a Dahua OEM NVR
( likewise with Hikvision .. LaView used to sell a lot of Hikvision Cameras .. )
note - you can also go the PC + VMS sotfware + PoE switch ..
Hi xllbenllx
Many new Models from Hikvision and Dahua come out each year, and vendors who use them as OEM rename them, so hard to keep up with the current models. ( that is it is not on the top of my head )
Often a new member introduction at ipcamtalk gets one of the frequent posters / volunteers to post a list of models they've been keeping up with.
Used to be SouthernYankee who would post a useful list .. sebastiantombs and wittaj having been posting some good info frequently of recent ..
I'd have to dig myself into ipcamtalk threads to find their or another volunteer's post ..
Hi peste
I really like Costco Return policy on security cameras .. ( note, do double check .. used to be a great return policy )
The Lorex kit they have on sale now .. I would swap 1-2 cameras with a 4MP 1/1.8" sensor dahua oem .. as the lorex kit looks like it is also Dahua OEM - so you may only need to sync the IP, user / password ..
Hi @gtiracer
Hikvision and Dahua are the top 2 brands I see recommended .. they make a lot of cameras tho, so you have to really look at the camera specs to find the models with larger sensors.
Hi nolife,
As you are in a rural area, and especially need low light camera(s)
I would start with one good varifocal 4MP 1/1.8" camera to play with and see what else you would like .. Hikvision or Dahua OEM ...
Perhaps you only need a couple of cameras to watch the driveway and frontdoor? Really depends on issues in your area .. ask the neighbors about safety related issues they've seen in the last 3 years. ( some rural areas got a lot of thieves .. )
Hi 460X
Challenge accepted..
PLEASE post low light image captures of your Reolinks of moving subject(s).
Youtube is a great place for all of us to use for such sharing of videos, or any other site which allows us to view 1080p+ without logging in. ( ipcamtalk, you have to create a free account to see larger images .. )
Hi bcorwin85
All cloud dependent cameras have lag.
All IP cameras have some lag.
All Apps have some lag.
You have to decide what is most important for your camera setup and what you are attempting to do.
Also, remember while these cameras are getting more "alarm system" type of features .. they're really not yet optimized to replace an alarm system.
That is, if you need to be alerted when someone walks on your property .. look for an alarm sensor product .. note some NVRs you can connect to alarm sensors ..
What's the challenge?
What 4K wired models would you recommend for home users from Hikvision and Dahua that offers at least a decent app for power users looking for control and ease of use for other family members?
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Anyone looking for a quality setup, don't save money on the hardware. You'll spend more money and effort in pulling cable and mounting you're not going to want to upgrade frequently.
Lorex nocturnal systems are very nice for the money. Large sensors, encoding, metal housings, and 30fps. I frequently have customers disappointed at video quality of moving objects, cars in particular, that appear blurry when moving. That's what you'll get with a 15/20fps camera. Regardless of resolutions, the higher framerate is what most people notice and want.
leeterbike has an excellent point .. the time / effort / money to run the cabling is significant. If you plan to keep the home, it will pay off as long as you ran the cables to good positions.
This imho is the most important job / task to do .. once you've done a good job on this - you can change out the IP PoE cameras and kit to newer models as you need.
Note to everyone here: Lorex used to have some decent 8MP 1/1.8" cameras and kits with those cameras, which I would happily recommend .. and then add 1-2 4MP 1/1.8" Dahua OEM camera(s) to cover the most important low light position .. that was a good reasonable option. ( nothing is perfect in security camera world .. thus I like to augment a core IP PoE system with a couple of cloud cameras covering my front of the house )
Unfortunately, Lorex cameras that I have looked at recently all have smaller sensor models now ... seems like 8MP and smaller sensors sell well enough to the consumers with other "smarty" bells and whistles .. ( which imho matter less .. )
@leeterbike, @mat2000,
I have definitely put the time, money and effort into running cabling correctly (IMO); therefore, I'm now looking for a really good 16x cam system to compliment that work and have for years to come.
Thoughts on these systems below from the lorex site (add lorex below)?
These are 8mp, but I also wonder if it's worth seeking 12mp at this point (not by them)? I was being pulled towards reolink's nvr systems which claim to handle their 12mp cams until I read this thread, but I also read reviews from users saying their systems get slow down when utilizing a higher number of 8mp+ cameras.
Thanks ahead!
ANNKE NC800
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From Annke's description:
"The PoE camera offers unparalleled 4K clarity with the pioneering 1/1.2″ STARVIS CMOS sensor. This flagship sensor captures the most authentic colors in every frame, every time. The 2.8 mm lens with an ultra-wide 124° diagonal angle covers a lot of objects, perfect for monitoring large areas."
I believe this is a Hikvision OEM .. so should play well with a Hikvision OEM NVR, or since it should be ONVIF spec, also VMS software like Blue Iris, Milestone systems, .. even other NVRs on the basic ONVIF settings .. ( Reolink NVRs really like Reolink Cameras, so that is a bit of a downside of a Reolink kit .. harder to get non-Reolink to work with it .. )
VMS Video Management System Software packages are available for various OSes, Windows being the most popular OS for VMS.
So VMS software like Blue Iris basically makes your Windows PC into an NVR. A big benefit of this is you get a faster CPU / processing and more flexibility this way vs a NVR box from Hikvision OEM / Dahua OEM / other .. as most NVR boxes are designed to be as affordable as possible to reduce the cost point to the customer, and often you can hit the bandwidth limit of cheaper boxes if you have many 8MP cameras.
Hi D-Edwardo
With cameras having gotten fairly affordable for the quality of image capture, I would definitely consider getting a couple .. even if just for watching wildlife ..
Thanks xllbenllx, hope to can share with others what I've learned on this topic.
( many here on SDs have helped me with other topics, this is the one I can help others with in return )
Yes lennonst, this is what I also find out about wifi .. thus why I ended up eventually just accepting that I had to go with a wired setup.
Also, I found having a varifocal camera really is nice for setting the FOV you want ..
Hi bcorwin85
Lennonst points out another issue which I failed to mention earlier .. in addition to cloud dependent issues, WiFi can also be problematic. ( a lot depends on even the construction of the house / building here .. )
If you're comfortable and want to try a few wired ip poe cameras, feel free to make a post at ipcamtalk put up a picture of the front of your house and tag me ( AT mat200 there .. ) I'll take a look and let you know what I might try to do to get a couple of cameras up.
As I noted, if you have a attached garage at the front of your home, that is normally a great way to get at least a couple cameras to watch the driveway and perhaps walkway up to the front door.
I could see it would be simple to get something setup in the garage since it is a connected garage on my tri level house. As I have easy access to the attic space if the garage. My issue would be getting any other cameras on the back of the house or other side of the house to the garage attic space.
Also having a switch in the garage is temperature and issue with weather in Ohio? And the switch would need to be wired to a router which would be inside the house? (Which would be tough for me as well)
Also suggestions for where all to place the cameras. How much should I expect to pay for installation?
Thanks a bunch in advance!!🙏
https://www.costco.com/lorex-4k-u...58346.html
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hoping to see some good deals around Black Friday .. hoping to have time to share if I see anything good .. no promises
https://en.wikipedia.or
same thing goes for Dahua. i'll stick to Nest, something that's US based and not CPP controlled
https://en.wikipedia.or
ANY money you are sending to China is helping the CCP do those atrocities .. that includes money sent for Reolink products .. as well as even buying much of the Pork in the USA as Chinese own those companies, as well as retirement funds or investment funds which have investments in China. This also includes Apple products ..
Once you start looking closely, the slope gets very slippery .. and it is very hard to detangle / disengage from China as it is the world factory at the moment, and much of their money is even invested now into the USA.
US Dollars sent to Chinese companies directly go into the pockets of the CCP controlled banks to pay off US Dollar Debt, and those companies get yuan .. China right now is super short of US Dollars and in trouble due to massive real estate bubble collapsing ..
Depends, if you have quality cat5e/6 cables run .. yes you can swap out the POE cameras / kit.
If you have decent cameras from your current kit, I would look at ways to continues to use some .. and just upgrade a couple of cameras ..
What's the challenge?
What 4K wired models would you recommend for home users from Hikvision and Dahua that offers at least a decent app for power users looking for control and ease of use for other family members?
"Reolink cameras as great - I have two of these cameras as stand-alone if any questions I can answer for anyone." - 460X
Thus, I would like to see what you think is a great low light image capture of a moving subject. Should be fairly straight forward ..
If you only meant .. "Reolink's app is great .. " well I did not get that impression from your post ..
"What 4K wired models would you recommend for home users from Hikvision and Dahua that offers at least a decent app for power users looking for control and ease of use for other family members?"
Careful analysis for me showed:
Security Camera System Minimal Viable Product requirements:
notice, that "APP" is not a part of the minimal viable product requirements.
In general, the subscription cloud service providers do best with apps - and thus I just get a cloud camera or 2 to augment my setup for those who want to "app" instead of care about the quality of the image capture.
No single product in the space hits 100% of the long list of requirements .. for me, if the product fails in one of the 3 minimal viable product requirements I toss if off the consideration list for my core system.
@leeterbike, @mat2000,
I have definitely put the time, money and effort into running cabling correctly (IMO); therefore, I'm now looking for a really good 16x cam system to compliment that work and have for years to come.
Thoughts on these systems below from the lorex site (add lorex below)?
These are 8mp, but I also wonder if it's worth seeking 12mp at this point (not by them)? I was being pulled towards reolink's nvr systems which claim to handle their 12mp cams until I read this thread, but I also read reviews from users saying their systems get slow down when utilizing a higher number of 8mp+ cameras.
Thanks ahead!
iirc those lorex cameras have small sensors in them .. 4K (8MP) 1/2.8" CMOS .. so I'd try to avoid them unless you get a killer deal and decide to add a couple of better low light performers to cover your most critical low light areas.
Normally Lorex used to have some nice kit deals around black friday .. throw in a good 4MP 1/1.8" Dahua OEM camera or 2 for better low light performance and you can have a reasonable setup for many of us.
( this is one reason Reolink is a challenge .. they do not make a better low light camera you can add to their NVR .. most of us probably are ok with a few cheaper cameras and a few good ones covering the front of our home .. )
I could see it would be simple to get something setup in the garage since it is a connected garage on my tri level house. As I have easy access to the attic space if the garage. My issue would be getting any other cameras on the back of the house or other side of the house to the garage attic space.
Also having a switch in the garage is temperature and issue with weather in Ohio? And the switch would need to be wired to a router which would be inside the house? (Which would be tough for me as well)
Very high temp or humidity is an issues for electronics .. if you can keep the temp and humidity within the operating equipment's acceptable range you can certainly put a switch in the garage, this is why sometimes a enterprise class switch is better than a consumer grade one .. or just have a spare switch ready if the original one dies an early death.
I found ventilation can make a big difference to electronics, sometimes just a small fan helps ..
https://en.wikipedia.or
same thing goes for Dahua. i'll stick to Nest, something that's US based and not CPP controlled
https://en.wikipedia.or
"Reolink cameras as great - I have two of these cameras as stand-alone if any questions I can answer for anyone." - 460X
Thus, I would like to see what you think is a great low light image capture of a moving subject. Should be fairly straight forward ..
If you only meant .. "Reolink's app is great .. " well I did not get that impression from your post ..
"What 4K wired models would you recommend for home users from Hikvision and Dahua that offers at least a decent app for power users looking for control and ease of use for other family members?"
Careful analysis for me showed:
Security Camera System Minimal Viable Product requirements:
notice, that "APP" is not a part of the minimal viable product requirements.
In general, the subscription cloud service providers do best with apps - and thus I just get a cloud camera or 2 to augment my setup for those who want to "app" instead of care about the quality of the image capture.
No single product in the space hits 100% of the long list of requirements .. for me, if the product fails in one of the 3 minimal viable product requirements I toss if off the consideration list for my core system.
You're looking for a business-class security camera for real security uses and I suspect many here looking at cheap cameras to look at their house, their kids, the dog hasn't escaped, etc. So for me interacting with the camera system through the App is important - this why any time people share videos online, they share a video of a video....I've used Lorex for example..that app is so bad, it's useless to find the video and download the actual copy to share. With reolink's app, it's done in seconds. Arlo and Eufy are very basic apps with little to configure, etc, etc. Why simply because the App is not in your minimum suddenly makes Apps features and greatness irrelevant? I said it's great - I take all into consideration so glad your impression wasn't just the app as it wasn't. Overall, it's great - the most power-user features in the app, great day video, great price, updates often with new features, cameras are accessible with web browser, cloud is optional and not required, don't even need an account to use, etc. You're very focused on low light, and nothing else. Could it be that it's the one and only area it excels at and your hanging your hat on it and coming across as YTA in the process...
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You're looking for a business-class security camera for real security uses and I suspect many here looking at cheap cameras to look at their house, their kids are come, the dog hasn't escaped, etc. So for me interacting with the camera system through the App is important - this why anything people share videos online, they share a video of a video....I've used Lorex..that app is so bad, it's useless to find the video anurlhasbeenblockedrt it. With reolink's app, it's done in seconds. Why simply because it's not in your minimum suddenly makes Apps features and greatness irrelevant to everyone else? I said it's great cameras - I take all into consideration. You're very focused on low light, and nothing else. And coming across as YTA in the process...
"You're looking for a business-class security camera for real security uses .. "
"You're very focused on low light, and nothing else"
I completely disagree .. I am looking for a HOME class security camera system that can perform. Reolink fails in many ways to do that for me and others.
Low light performance is just one of the key items .. compatibility is another. If Reolink was more compatible I could add them to my setup for spots which a cheap camera is OK, .. however Reolink does not play well with other kits ( see the mentioned iFrame issue )
" .. and I suspect many here looking at cheap cameras to look at their house .. "
Most people, myself included, have NOT A CLUE about evaluating security cameras when we were / are new to the topic. We're seen too many Hollywood movies to have a realistic expectation .. ( and there are a lot of shill videos on youtube .. )
People look at Reolink or other Security Cameras because they see they have a particular need to meet.
I've learned a lot since people ( some here at SDs ) recommended products to me which failed to do what I needed to. ( got a box of old cameras to show that .. hint .. this is why I really like Costco's return policy .. )
My first big post covers that .. ( see the original Lorex post I mentioned previously ).
There's a massive amount of deceptive and fraudulent messaging from Reolink ( purposeful social media astroturfing and manipulation .. ) and their fan base.
I've seen numerous posts here, there, and elsewhere stating Reolink is great at image capture even in low light conditions.
Now, to likened Reolink with a Hi-point Pistol is fair .. IF you can afford a better pistol .. you would want to buy it. If you recommend friends, family, and others that the Hi-Point is the greatest pistol around .. well that is just misleading and / or fraudulent.
To state Reolink has issues .. but the low price meets many people's budgetary needs, is fair.
To state Reolink is poor for image capture .. but you love the app and price point .. that's fine.
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