Similar boat for me. My 9570 ran at 99 C under any load. Repasting, undervolting, and other tweaks did nothing. Firmware updates did nothing. I also had the popping audio issue. The laptop worked but it ran hot and throttled. I'm done with 15" XPS laptops now.
Same here. Audio popping was a Dell installed audio driver/program. If you deleted it, it popped, only way to stop the pop was to open the program and set one of the frequencies to a certain level. Never had a problem after.
I'd look into the firmware. My XPS 7390 used to run super hot and loud 90% of the time (fan always on turbo) and after the latest firmware update, it rarely does that anymore.
Nada. Everything is meticulously kept up to date. Widely known issue of the 9570 and Dell never fixed it, just threw Band-Aids, had it
What's your doubt? The math is the math. When it's small, you can make it big easily. When the pixels are big, theres no way to make it small. Does that make sense? You know how to make windows scale bigger?
Dude\Buggy, I don't know what your problem really is, but I disagree. Got it? Do you need help understanding simple statements? Can you tell time on an analog clock?
A high res screen on a 15" laptop is not going to give you big square pixels. I've seen them. I've used them, and my vision is fine. I even bought a Dell 30" studio monitor in 2007-8 (expensive) with a screen of 2500x1600 or something deemed insufficient by today's standards. IOW, it had a lower resolution than the XPS I'm typing on now. I loved it. Clients loved it. Everyone who saw it loved it.
As I said, some older applications don't scale well. Do you understand that? I can make older photoshop versions scale in some cases with a manifest file and a registry change, but that solution is NOT universal. Heck, some older apps don't even scale well at 1080p, let alone anything higher.
Unless you care to share with everyone here how to make all older apps scale when they normally won't, I'm sure many will appreciate it including me. But if you're going to tell anyone to just go to settings and adjust display resolution/font scaling then it's not worth anyone's time to read your reply.
Pro tip - See an optometrist and get some glasses that don't exaggerate pixel size....
PS - Did you ever wonder why people could watch DVDs (low res) on a 50+" screen?
There isn't one answer for everyone, that is why they offer multiple resolutions. Most people's 65-inch TVs are still 1080p. Plus you will get longer use out of the GPU.
Just wanted to echo that 1080p is pretty bad on these XPS models. I bought one for the better battery life, and ended up returning it because it was too cramped to run multiple browsers side my side.
Dude\Buggy, I don't know what your problem really is, but I disagree. Got it? Do you need help understanding simple statements? Can you tell time on an analog clock?
A high res screen on a 15" laptop is not going to give you big square pixels. I've seen them. I've used them, and my vision is fine. I even bought a Dell 30" studio monitor in 2007-8 (expensive) with a screen of 2500x1600 or something deemed insufficient by today's standards. IOW, it had a lower resolution than the XPS I'm typing on now. I loved it. Clients loved it. Everyone who saw it loved it.
As I said, some older applications don't scale well. Do you understand that? I can make older photoshop versions scale in some cases with a manifest file and a registry change, but that solution is NOT universal. Heck, some older apps don't even scale well at 1080p, let alone anything higher.
Unless you care to share with everyone here how to make all older apps scale when they normally won't, I'm sure many will appreciate it including me. But if you're going to tell anyone to just go to settings and adjust display resolution/font scaling then it's not worth anyone's time to read your reply.
Pro tip - See an optometrist and get some glasses that don't exaggerate pixel size....
PS - Did you ever wonder why people could watch DVDs (low res) on a 50+" screen?
Sorry that I failed to realize there are so many people want to buy the latest laptop to run y2k apps. Not my style but I should have been more empathetic.
Wow, there is a lot of bold statements here that I think most people would not agree with.
Full disclosure I have an XPS 9560 with and i7 that is 4.5 years old not and recently got a XPS 9520 with an i7 both with FHD/FHD+. Both were refurbished models.
First, this is not a gaming system, you cannot max out the GPU and CPU at the same time. there is just not enough power budget. On the 9560 it was mainly to the VRMs getting too hot not the CPU or GPU. I haven't spent time to look into this on the 9520 yet.
Second, don't but this machine if you want a gaming laptop. Its just not that. Its more of a pro-sumer content creation machine. The color quality on the FHD+ display is quite good for a consumer product.
Third, the build quality on these XPS machines is quite good. My XPS 9560 is still going strong. (with replacement fans ~20$ and a re-paste) after 4.5 years. The wife will be very happy with this hand me down machine for probably another 2.5-3.5 years. I fully expect to get 8 years out of the 9560 and hopefully something similar out of the 9520.
Fourth, 4k displays will significantly decrease your battery life. 4k displays are also difficult to drive for gaming. Getting a 4k gaming laptop is just a bad idea. The gain in visual clarity from a 4k display vs the FHD+ screen is minimal whereas it costs a few hundred extra and tanks your battery life. But its not my money. I suggest you buy a higher resolution monitor to use at your desk and then you know be a normy with your laptop with FHD+ display.
I would say that a 512GB ssd is small, and while 16GB of RAM right now is plenty of moderate use you would probably want 32GB of RAM if you plan to do video editing. But that could be addressed later.
These are premium machines to compete with the likes of apple, not a ROG etc. gamer laptop that looks all gamery and such.
SAME! Xps9570 owner here. I had to repaste the heat sink, add thermal pads between the mosfets and the case, while also use TheottleStop… still have throttle issues. Also had audio issues but they pale in comparison. Ill never purchase an XPS again
Just wanted to echo that 1080p is pretty bad on these XPS models. I bought one for the better battery life, and ended up returning it because it was too cramped to run multiple browsers side my side.
It works okay for side by side, but its only a 15 inch monitor. You want more room you need to get a larger screen like a 17 inch laptop or an external monitor. This is not a function of resolution.
The IdeaPad 7 Pro at Costco for $1200 is a much better deal. 32GB ram instead of 16GB, comparable GPU, better thermals, no weird history of issues like the XPS.
both XPS laptops i've had were full of overheating issues, wouldn't recommend for any gaming.
I had a bad experience with low-performing AMD processors some years ago.
I also concur that a bad product will always be a bad product. I am very close-minded. Nobody should rely on actual objective reviews. Those are only for open-minded people who understand how the world works.
Do you happen to know the power consumption and performance of a comparable AMD processor? No? Can the AMD processor plug into a Thunderbolt dock or external GPU?
The IdeaPad 7 Pro at Costco for $1200 is a much better deal. 32GB ram instead of 16GB, comparable GPU, better thermals, no weird history of issues like the XPS.
Looking to replace a 2017 15" MBP with a Radeon Pro 555. Looking at Windows machines now for occasional gaming but I want it to run decent at Ultra settings. Minus the screen, is this a viable choice?
No the graphics card is not good at all. 4gb is way too small for a gaming computer. The reason this is so high is the cpu/ddr5 ram. It's brand new ram and expensive. Cpu has Alot of cores. It's more for productivity then gaming. You can find a better deal around the same price for gaming. Like a 3070ti.
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Same here. Audio popping was a Dell installed audio driver/program. If you deleted it, it popped, only way to stop the pop was to open the program and set one of the frequencies to a certain level. Never had a problem after.
Nada. Everything is meticulously kept up to date. Widely known issue of the 9570 and Dell never fixed it, just threw Band-Aids, had it
A high res screen on a 15" laptop is not going to give you big square pixels. I've seen them. I've used them, and my vision is fine. I even bought a Dell 30" studio monitor in 2007-8 (expensive) with a screen of 2500x1600 or something deemed insufficient by today's standards. IOW, it had a lower resolution than the XPS I'm typing on now. I loved it. Clients loved it. Everyone who saw it loved it.
As I said, some older applications don't scale well. Do you understand that? I can make older photoshop versions scale in some cases with a manifest file and a registry change, but that solution is NOT universal. Heck, some older apps don't even scale well at 1080p, let alone anything higher.
Unless you care to share with everyone here how to make all older apps scale when they normally won't, I'm sure many will appreciate it including me. But if you're going to tell anyone to just go to settings and adjust display resolution/font scaling then it's not worth anyone's time to read your reply.
Pro tip - See an optometrist and get some glasses that don't exaggerate pixel size....
PS - Did you ever wonder why people could watch DVDs (low res) on a 50+" screen?
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A high res screen on a 15" laptop is not going to give you big square pixels. I've seen them. I've used them, and my vision is fine. I even bought a Dell 30" studio monitor in 2007-8 (expensive) with a screen of 2500x1600 or something deemed insufficient by today's standards. IOW, it had a lower resolution than the XPS I'm typing on now. I loved it. Clients loved it. Everyone who saw it loved it.
As I said, some older applications don't scale well. Do you understand that? I can make older photoshop versions scale in some cases with a manifest file and a registry change, but that solution is NOT universal. Heck, some older apps don't even scale well at 1080p, let alone anything higher.
Unless you care to share with everyone here how to make all older apps scale when they normally won't, I'm sure many will appreciate it including me. But if you're going to tell anyone to just go to settings and adjust display resolution/font scaling then it's not worth anyone's time to read your reply.
Pro tip - See an optometrist and get some glasses that don't exaggerate pixel size....
PS - Did you ever wonder why people could watch DVDs (low res) on a 50+" screen?
Sorry that I failed to realize there are so many people want to buy the latest laptop to run y2k apps. Not my style but I should have been more empathetic.
Full disclosure I have an XPS 9560 with and i7 that is 4.5 years old not and recently got a XPS 9520 with an i7 both with FHD/FHD+. Both were refurbished models.
First, this is not a gaming system, you cannot max out the GPU and CPU at the same time. there is just not enough power budget. On the 9560 it was mainly to the VRMs getting too hot not the CPU or GPU. I haven't spent time to look into this on the 9520 yet.
Second, don't but this machine if you want a gaming laptop. Its just not that. Its more of a pro-sumer content creation machine. The color quality on the FHD+ display is quite good for a consumer product.
Third, the build quality on these XPS machines is quite good. My XPS 9560 is still going strong. (with replacement fans ~20$ and a re-paste) after 4.5 years. The wife will be very happy with this hand me down machine for probably another 2.5-3.5 years. I fully expect to get 8 years out of the 9560 and hopefully something similar out of the 9520.
Fourth, 4k displays will significantly decrease your battery life. 4k displays are also difficult to drive for gaming. Getting a 4k gaming laptop is just a bad idea. The gain in visual clarity from a 4k display vs the FHD+ screen is minimal whereas it costs a few hundred extra and tanks your battery life. But its not my money. I suggest you buy a higher resolution monitor to use at your desk and then you know be a normy with your laptop with FHD+ display.
I would say that a 512GB ssd is small, and while 16GB of RAM right now is plenty of moderate use you would probably want 32GB of RAM if you plan to do video editing. But that could be addressed later.
These are premium machines to compete with the likes of apple, not a ROG etc. gamer laptop that looks all gamery and such.
https://slickdeals.net/f/16013035-lenovo-slim-7i-16-2022-16-qhd-120hz-touch-i7-12700h-intel-arca370m-32gb-lpddr5-1tb-gen4-ssd-thunderbolt-4-win11h-1199-99
I also concur that a bad product will always be a bad product. I am very close-minded. Nobody should rely on actual objective reviews. Those are only for open-minded people who understand how the world works.
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Do you happen to know the power consumption and performance of a comparable AMD processor? No? Can the AMD processor plug into a Thunderbolt dock or external GPU?
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But the Costco deal is much better deal because people who buy a laptop this big aren't going to be mobile much.
And because Costco warranty.
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