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expiredDr.W posted Oct 27, 2022 01:11 PM

MSI Delta: 15.6" FHD IPS 240Hz, Ryzen 5800H, RX6700M, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD $1099.99

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SPECS:
  • 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) 16:9, 240Hz 3ms, Anti-glare, IPS Display
  • Ryzen 7 5800H 8C/16T CPU (4.4 GHz Boost, 20MB Cache)
  • 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4-3200MHz RAM
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
  • AMD RX 6700M, 10GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
  • 720p HD Webcam
  • RGB Backlit Keyboard
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.2 + Gigabit Lan
  • 4 Cell 82 WHr Battery
  • 4.19 lbs.
  • Model: Delta15001
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C /w DiisplayPort 1.4
    • 1x HDMI 2.0
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack
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SPECS:
  • 15.6" FHD (1920x1080) 16:9, 240Hz 3ms, Anti-glare, IPS Display
  • Ryzen 7 5800H 8C/16T CPU (4.4 GHz Boost, 20MB Cache)
  • 16GB (8GBx2) DDR4-3200MHz RAM
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
  • AMD RX 6700M, 10GB GDDR6 Graphics
  • Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
  • 720p HD Webcam
  • RGB Backlit Keyboard
  • 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6E + Bluetooth 5.2 + Gigabit Lan
  • 4 Cell 82 WHr Battery
  • 4.19 lbs.
  • Model: Delta15001
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C /w DiisplayPort 1.4
    • 1x HDMI 2.0
    • 1x Audio Combo Jack

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Model: MSI - Delta 15.6" FHD 240hz Gaming Laptop - Ryzen R7-5800 - Radeon RX6700M - 1TB SSD - 16GB Memory - Black

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Oct 27, 2022 01:57 PM
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Dicka24Oct 27, 2022 01:57 PM
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How does MSI rate in terms of brand quality? I was in a Bestbuy the other day and aesthetically, or physically, the MSI's seemed nice and had a decent feel. I've never owned one so I don't know if they are more Acer Nitro or ASUS ROG on the quality spectrum.

For those wondering a 6700m and an RTX 3060 are roughly on the same level in terms of overall performance (wattage not withstanding). Certain games perform differently with Nvidia versus AMD so keep that in mind if you're game specific in your usage.
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Oct 27, 2022 03:04 PM
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Kyle_F3Oct 27, 2022 03:04 PM
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Quote from Dicka24 :
How does MSI rate in terms of brand quality? I was in a Bestbuy the other day and aesthetically, or physically, the MSI's seemed nice and had a decent feel. I've never owned one so I don't know if they are more Acer Nitro or ASUS ROG on the quality spectrum.

For those wondering a 6700m and an RTX 3060 are roughly on the same level in terms of overall performance (wattage not withstanding). Certain games perform differently with Nvidia versus AMD so keep that in mind if you're game specific in your usage.
Every brand has a million horror stories, fanboys, etc so doing your own research is important. In my opinion having done a few warranty repairs(some trivial) Lenovo is by far the best, MSI is probably on par with Asus, Acer, etc. Certain models have excellent build quality, other low end models have Nitro build quality.
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Oct 27, 2022 03:15 PM
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Dicka24Oct 27, 2022 03:15 PM
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Quote from Kyle_F3 :
Every brand has a million horror stories, fanboys, etc so doing your own research is important. In my opinion having done a few warranty repairs(some trivial) Lenovo is by far the best, MSI is probably on par with Asus, Acer, etc. Certain models have excellent build quality, other low end models have Nitro build quality.
I do build my own gaming PCs as a hobby, but I've been out of the gaming laptop market for a while. I've bought laptops for office/personal use a ton and if it's one thing I've learned is that "friends never let friends buy an HP". Which is to say don't buy laptop brands that have bad reputations for durability and quality. From everything I've been reading this would mean Acer Nitro's. With a desktop PC I can swap out a faulty component. With a laptop not so much. Build quality for me is important so I appreciate the reply.
Oct 27, 2022 08:20 PM
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Pramod13Oct 27, 2022 08:20 PM
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As per the specs, this laptop is a beast. You can run any game with ease.
My only issue is the fans. When running on battery, this laptop is cool, and the fans are completely silent. As soon as you plug in the charger, the laptop gets hot, and the fans start to run (even if you are browsing only). The same thing happens when you connect it to a secondary monitor (HDMI and USB-c output is connected to dGPU).
Oct 28, 2022 05:13 PM
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zhamilton05Oct 28, 2022 05:13 PM
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I think I read that this only had like 275 nits of brightness. Deal-breaker for me on a laptop at this price point
Nov 14, 2022 02:51 PM
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ccs90Nov 14, 2022 02:51 PM
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Quote from Dicka24 :
How does MSI rate in terms of brand quality? I was in a Bestbuy the other day and aesthetically, or physically, the MSI's seemed nice and had a decent feel. I've never owned one so I don't know if they are more Acer Nitro or ASUS ROG on the quality spectrum.

For those wondering a 6700m and an RTX 3060 are roughly on the same level in terms of overall performance (wattage not withstanding). Certain games perform differently with Nvidia versus AMD so keep that in mind if you're game specific in your usage.
Theoretically yes but the rtx cards are very power hungry and hot and throttle allot and the laptops with higher wattage versions and excellent cooling come at a huge premium and are rare.

There's a reason why there are so many low wattage 3060, 3070, and 3080's and why some of them throttle so aggressively.

A 6700m will match a 3070 Running at about 100w, which is a very common throttle limit for anything over a 15 minute benchmark for allot of laptops.
Nov 14, 2022 02:57 PM
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Dicka24Nov 14, 2022 02:57 PM
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Quote from ccs90 :
Theoretically yes but the rtx cards are very power hungry and hot and throttle allot and the laptops with higher wattage versions and excellent cooling come at a huge premium and are rare.

There's a reason why there are so many low wattage 3060, 3070, and 3080's and why some of them throttle so aggressively.

A 6700m will match a 3070 Running at about 100w, which is a very common throttle limit for anything over a 15 minute benchmark for allot of laptops.
Great info. I did not know that about the GPUs accounting for heat differences like that. I thought that was more a CPU thing. I do know some people say the driver quality is better with Nvidia cards vs AMD but heat/cooling with a laptop is critical if its for gaming.

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Nov 14, 2022 05:26 PM
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ccs90Nov 14, 2022 05:26 PM
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Quote from Dicka24 :
Great info. I did not know that about the GPUs accounting for heat differences like that. I thought that was more a CPU thing. I do know some people say the driver quality is better with Nvidia cards vs AMD but heat/cooling with a laptop is critical if its for gaming.
Honestly I'm mostly an Nvidia guy. But the GF and son get AMD stuff if I'm paying for it, they can't tell the difference 🤣🤣🤣.

I don't know why the thermals and the power spikes are so out of control on the ampere chips. It's not as big of a deal with desktop parts. It's the same reason why (but not nearly as bad) there hasn't been an AMD discrete graphics card laptop worth getting for awhile, because they couldn't compete with performance per watt.

However, I kept getting black screens and crashes on my desktop with a slightly older good gold 750w psu and upgraded to a 1000w titanium psu. I love ray tracing and the little physics and stuff and performance of the cards but The random electrical spikes and heat spikes they pull is on a new level.

AMD drivers were really crappy for like a year or so about 10 years ago. Nvidia drivers are ok, but I've had way more issues with Nvidia drivers the past 3 or 4 years then AMD drivers. I have to tinker around and roll back drivers and stuff every so often. It's been a really long time since I had issues like that with my GF or sons rigs. The Nvidia drivers are good and they always fix stuff pretty fast, it's not a big deal. But the AMD stuff almost never has any kind of problems with games, maybe some kind of bug with windows every once in a while..... I think it's because of the consoles and the console support, they are all AMD hardware.

Big piece of advise, you never switch from an Nvidia GPU to an AMD GPU without doing a fresh install of Windows, or at the bare minimum running a program to completely wipe the driver's as much as possible. Nvidia is the best, but they have always played dirty with that sort of thing. Less important, idk if it matters, but I have always paired Intel with Nvidia and AMD with AMD, for CPU and GPU.

Cheers 🍻
Nov 14, 2022 05:40 PM
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ccs90Nov 14, 2022 05:40 PM
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Quote from Dicka24 :
Great info. I did not know that about the GPUs accounting for heat differences like that. I thought that was more a CPU thing. I do know some people say the driver quality is better with Nvidia cards vs AMD but heat/cooling with a laptop is critical if its for gaming.
My 3080 laptop is great, but has overheating issues and throttling problems, had it replaced under warranty, repasted it twice tinkered around....

Learned to live with it, the performance is still really good.

But I got my GF this


https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...lsrc=aw.ds



And a review.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&s...yyG_AUQdJK

It dicks mine into the ground, mostly just because it doesn't throttle the same or have some of the wierd issues mine does, idk if I just got unlucky twice in a row or what.

Mine was twice as much. The only thing I like a little better on mine is the screen but the screen on this one is still really good.

It's the best laptop for 1100 new, end of story, even though it's AMD. I want to get another one for myself but can't bring myself to do it.
Nov 14, 2022 05:47 PM
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ccs90Nov 14, 2022 05:47 PM
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Quote from Dicka24 :
Great info. I did not know that about the GPUs accounting for heat differences like that. I thought that was more a CPU thing. I do know some people say the driver quality is better with Nvidia cards vs AMD but heat/cooling with a laptop is critical if its for gaming.
That's the upgraded version with the better screen.
Nov 19, 2022 08:47 PM
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cultzNov 19, 2022 08:47 PM
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This exists https://slickdeals.net/f/16183276-asus-rog-strix-g15-advantage-edition-15-6-qhd-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-5980hx-16gb-memory-radeon-rx-6800m-512gb-ssd-g513qy-sg15-r96800-1100?src=rcm_category_h

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