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4TB Crucial MX500 3D NAND 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive

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Various Retailers have 4TB Crucial MX500 3D NAND 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive (CT4000MX500SSD1) on sale from $237.99. Shipping is free.

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Available from:About this Product:
  • Sequential Read: 560 MB/s
  • Sequential Write: 510 MB/s
  • SSD Endurance (TBW): 1000TB
  • Controller: SMI SM2258
  • TLC NAND Flash
  • Warranty: Limited 5-year

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Update: This popular deal is still available.

Various Retailers have 4TB Crucial MX500 3D NAND 2.5" SATA Solid State Drive (CT4000MX500SSD1) on sale from $237.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Members Tamdrik and phoinix [discuss] for finding this deal.

Available from:About this Product:
  • Sequential Read: 560 MB/s
  • Sequential Write: 510 MB/s
  • SSD Endurance (TBW): 1000TB
  • Controller: SMI SM2258
  • TLC NAND Flash
  • Warranty: Limited 5-year

Editor's Notes

Written by RevOne | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • This is $122 lower (34% savings) than the list price.
  • About this Product:
    • This is rated 4.4 out of 5 stars based on over 300 ratings at Amazon.
  • About this Store:
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Jaggsta
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this drive is nerfed with only 512MB DRAM 1/4 of DRAM of 2TB Model instead of 4GB like other drives 1GB per TB.

https://www.realhardwarereviews.c...-review/4/
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Well, the review he linked concluded, "We not only like the Crucial MX500 4TB and will be buying it for our own personal rigs… we can in good faith recommend it. Its combination of decent to good performance is more than good enough for typical SATA scenarios. Its price is extremely reasonable and when you combine the two and then add in extremely durable NAND the result is a good value drive."

For me personally, I'd go with an MX500 for a storage drive if for no other reason than the power loss protection it offers (capacitors that allow it to avoid drive corruption when power is interrupted mid-write), which is relatively rare. I used to belong to a USAF unit that (among other things) maintained computer systems on aircraft, and the aircrew would often carelessly yank the SSDs out of the computers while they were still powered on (to download the data for post-mission), and we had a crazy failure rate as a result. We switched to Crucial drives and the problem vanished. The performance difference between the 4TB and smaller versions (or other brands of SATA drive) is going to be tiny in the vast majority of workloads since it's using NAND that is much faster than the SATA bus, so it's basically saturated regardless of what model of SSD you use (assuming it's not one of the cheapest budget tier DRAM-less drives).

If you want an OS/boot drive, you'd ideally get an NVMe SSD, or if your system doesn't support it, maybe a smaller capacity MX500 for the higher DRAM-to-capacity ratio if you really want to eke out every bit of performance you can get out of SATA.

EDIT: Power loss protection was a "relatively rare" feature back when we were having the problem. I'm not sure how prevalent power loss protection is in newer SSDs, though a quick Google search indicates that it's still not universal, at least.
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Nice drop from recent low. Sub $200 by mid next year hopefully.

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oh shit! paid $269 back in late november. time to return and get this one! laugh out loud
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Nice drop from recent low. Sub $200 by mid next year hopefully.
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Same price on amazon
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this drive is nerfed with only 512MB DRAM 1/4 of DRAM of 2TB Model instead of 4GB like other drives 1GB per TB.

https://www.realhardwarereviews.c...-review/4/
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Quote from Jaggsta :
this drive is nerfed with only 512MB DRAM 1/4 of DRAM of 2TB Model instead of 4GB like other drives 1GB per TB.

https://www.realhardwarereviews.c...-review/4/ [realhardwarereviews.com]
interesting article about the 512 only.

looks like the samsung 4tb evo might be doing the same???

https://www.anandtech.com/show/16...4tb-review
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Just bought this 2 weeks ago- hopefully can get a price adjustment
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Quote from jsguy :
Just bought this 2 weeks ago- hopefully can get a price adjustment
where? if amazon they will say no and tell you to return it and rebuy

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where? if amazon they will say no and tell you to return it and rebuy
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Quote from Jaggsta :
this drive is nerfed with only 512MB DRAM 1/4 of DRAM of 2TB Model instead of 4GB like other drives 1GB per TB.

https://www.realhardwarereviews.c...-review/4/
This makes sense for a drive that's primarily used to store large files, right? Isn't DRAM most useful when accessing multiple small files back to back? It definitely has less. I'm just trying to figure out if it makes sense for a drive that primarily stores large files or maybe even a NAS.
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From Bestbuy
bb might just price match
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Quote from UniquePanther652 :
This makes sense for a drive that's primarily used to store large files, right? Isn't DRAM most useful when accessing multiple small files back to back? It definitely has less. I'm just trying to figure out if it makes sense for a drive that primarily stores large files or maybe even a NAS.
Well, the review he linked concluded, "We not only like the Crucial MX500 4TB and will be buying it for our own personal rigs… we can in good faith recommend it. Its combination of decent to good performance is more than good enough for typical SATA scenarios. Its price is extremely reasonable and when you combine the two and then add in extremely durable NAND the result is a good value drive."

For me personally, I'd go with an MX500 for a storage drive if for no other reason than the power loss protection it offers (capacitors that allow it to avoid drive corruption when power is interrupted mid-write), which is relatively rare. I used to belong to a USAF unit that (among other things) maintained computer systems on aircraft, and the aircrew would often carelessly yank the SSDs out of the computers while they were still powered on (to download the data for post-mission), and we had a crazy failure rate as a result. We switched to Crucial drives and the problem vanished. The performance difference between the 4TB and smaller versions (or other brands of SATA drive) is going to be tiny in the vast majority of workloads since it's using NAND that is much faster than the SATA bus, so it's basically saturated regardless of what model of SSD you use (assuming it's not one of the cheapest budget tier DRAM-less drives).

If you want an OS/boot drive, you'd ideally get an NVMe SSD, or if your system doesn't support it, maybe a smaller capacity MX500 for the higher DRAM-to-capacity ratio if you really want to eke out every bit of performance you can get out of SATA.

EDIT: Power loss protection was a "relatively rare" feature back when we were having the problem. I'm not sure how prevalent power loss protection is in newer SSDs, though a quick Google search indicates that it's still not universal, at least.
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stack this with Amex $25 back on $250 spend if u haven't used it + 4% cb
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> this drive is nerfed with only 512MB DRAM

Correct, but I should note ALL models including the 2TB now have only 512MB of DRAM since I think late 2021. They also have a new controller which is substantially faster and it doesn't actually need as much DRAM as the previous model to get the same performance.

I don't actually have any of the new models myself so I can't say for sure what the performance difference is like, but I've told it's basically a wash. The new controller is faster so it doesn't need as much DRAM for the SLC cache to keep up before it dumps to TLC.
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Some predicted price parity by the end of 2023. It just might happen.

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Quote from Tamdrik :
Well, the review he linked concluded, "We not only like the Crucial MX500 4TB and will be buying it for our own personal rigs… we can in good faith recommend it. Its combination of decent to good performance is more than good enough for typical SATA scenarios. Its price is extremely reasonable and when you combine the two and then add in extremely durable NAND the result is a good value drive."

For me personally, I'd go with an MX500 for a storage drive if for no other reason than the power loss protection it offers (capacitors that allow it to avoid drive corruption when power is interrupted mid-write), which is relatively rare. I used to belong to a USAF unit that (among other things) maintained computer systems on aircraft, and the aircrew would often carelessly yank the SSDs out of the computers while they were still powered on (to download the data for post-mission), and we had a crazy failure rate as a result. We switched to Crucial drives and the problem vanished. The performance difference between the 4TB and smaller versions (or other brands of SATA drive) is going to be tiny in the vast majority of workloads since it's using NAND that is much faster than the SATA bus, so it's basically saturated regardless of what model of SSD you use (assuming it's not one of the cheapest budget tier DRAM-less drives).

If you want an OS/boot drive, you'd ideally get an NVMe SSD, or if your system doesn't support it, maybe a smaller capacity MX500 for the higher DRAM-to-capacity ratio if you really want to eke out every bit of performance you can get out of SATA.

EDIT: Power loss protection was a "relatively rare" feature back when we were having the problem. I'm not sure how prevalent power loss protection is in newer SSDs, though a quick Google search indicates that it's still not universal, at least.
Thanks for the detailed post. So this would be a good media storage drive for a NUC? For files 20-50gb for streaming via Plex etc.

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