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QNAP TS-653D-4G 6-Bay NAS Enclosure
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Sorry for rambling. TL;DR: this is completely inadequate for transcoding really anything (not just 4k), but you shouldn't need too nowadays.
QTS isn't terrible, I do think it's behind Synology or the others that you mentioned if you're just looking to NAS this device.
QNAP does have a lot of zero days - but it's pretty well documented about not opening up anything to internet on their forums, well any forums for QNAP due to this. Pretty standard for any type of App/Hardware these days to limit the attack surface as much as possible.
There's the third-party / maintained QPKG repos out there to help. But yeah, they're slow to update and they're third-party. I didn't find them clunky and worked as expected.
I migrated all my Apps (Sonarr/Radarr/Sab/PiHole...ect) to container station via Portainer / Compose. I do think Container Station would be okay but just for overall management Portainer is the way to go.
Not sure where you're getting the VM loading times and specifically for Home Assistant, as that's how I'm running my HA instance. It's back up in less than minute during updates via the App or system reboots (well maybe slightly on VM restart, def no where near 20mins)
I also have an Microsoft Intune/ConfigMgr lab running in there with multiple different client OS's for testing; Ubuntu and Ansible/Teraform lab - they're all speedy, I haven't found any issues.
I've updated the memory to 32gigs and haven't had any Kernel Panics / stops. The VMs see the memory I assigned and it's def over the allotted 8gbs.
I don't know, I just haven't had the experience you've outlined above with mine. I've maxed out the drives with 14TB disks, 32gb RAM. I did a lot of research when I first started looking and it was between this guy and a 6 bay Synology, I ended up on the QNAP just for the hardware and I knew coming in EVERYONE said QNAP software sucks and is inferior to Synology - I was worried I was going to see that. I've never used Synology - but I can say that I haven't felt I couldn't do something I wanted or had issues with so far. I don't regret going QNAP.
1. This is a Celeron CPU - so, expectations need to be adjusted accordingly. Don't expect some tremendous performance with transcoding videos for example - but it will still do the job.
2. RAM - it does support and can use 32GB (which is super handy if you want to run a few containers). That's what I have, tested and confirmed. The caveat - you must use dual-rank memory modules. Here are the details: https://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?t
3. Fan noise - I have the 4-drive unit, fan is practically silent.
4. HDD temperatures - it is more than good. To do initial burn-in on the drives I ran ShredOS (similar to DBAN) to fill 4x16TB drives multiple times with random data. This was a 100% load for the drives for over a week - which is way beyond what's typical for a NAS - and all drives kept 40-41C and the entire system performed flawlessly.
5. Do you need 2.5G Ethernet ports - YES! With 4 drives at 160-180MB/sec I was getting 600-700Mb/sec combined easily from the drives. Your bottleneck is the LAN port. Even if you bridge the two you will still hit the limit.
6. Extra PCIe slot is very handy. I was surprised that a 10GBps Mellanox 311 SFP+ card was literally a plug-and-play thing. It was fully supported and just worked.
Minor annoyance with that - you will have to mess with the low-profile bracket as QNAP decided to use a non-standard bracket. Not that it was a big deal - I had to bent one bit, and drill a new hole for the screw (as I insisted on it being installed and screwed properly). You could just install it without the bracket and it will be mostly fine - after all you will likely put the NAS somewhere once and never move it from there.
7. The 6-drive unit is extra tempting as drives are really cheap those days. So, instead of transcoding or do other magics to reduce file size I would just get a few extra drives.
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You can test this on small scale. I encode everything in MKV, so here's how to do that:
- Download/install Handbrake on a computer that has an encoder on it (most intel chips have QSV onboard, so you can use that)
- Start handbrake and load up a video file by dropping it into the GUI.
- Make the following settings:
- In presets, select h.265 MKV <resolution of your video file> (so if you have a 1080p file, select "H.265 MKV 1080p30")
- On Summary tab, deselect "Passthru Common Metadata"
- On Dimensions tab, no changes
- On Filters tab, turn off decomb
- On Video tab
- change framerate to "same as source"
- change encoder to H.265 10-bit (Intel QSV)
- On audio tab, no changes (it should have deteected the audio in the file and have it set to match, you could change the setting here and make the audio smaller, too)
- On Subtitles, click CLEAR
- On chapters tab, clear the check in "Create Chapter Markers"
- Next, in Save AS (at the bottom), enter or browse to a path (including a filename) where you want to output the video to.
- Click start near the top (green button)
Handbrake will transcode the video to h265. This can take some time. Test the file in your plex instance stremaing to different devices. Monitor in plex dashboard, and using the streaming info on the clients. "Direct stream" is as good as "Direct Play" and either is what you're trying to get to. Once you're satisfied, then you can look up running a TDARR instance to automate all this against your entire collection.Now, when you want a subtitle on, in the Plex client, just select the subtitle option and it will fetch them from the internet. It's not perfect, but works in I'd say about 90+% of the times I try it. There is also a way to download the subtitle file and include it alongside the video file, but I don't do that so I cna't help with that. There is a program called BAZARR that is meant to automate the download of subtitle files, though.
You can test this on small scale. I encode everything in MKV, so here's how to do that:
- Download/install Handbrake on a computer that has an encoder on it (most intel chips have QSV onboard, so you can use that)
- Start handbrake and load up a video file by dropping it into the GUI.
- Make the following settings:
- In presets, select h.265 MKV <resolution of your video file> (so if you have a 1080p file, select "H.265 MKV 1080p30")
- On Summary tab, deselect "Passthru Common Metadata"
- On Dimensions tab, no changes
- On Filters tab, turn off decomb
- On Video tab
- change framerate to "same as source"
- change encoder to H.265 10-bit (Intel QSV)
- On audio tab, no changes (it should have deteected the audio in the file and have it set to match, you could change the setting here and make the audio smaller, too)
- On Subtitles, click CLEAR
- On chapters tab, clear the check in "Create Chapter Markers"
- Next, in Save AS (at the bottom), enter or browse to a path (including a filename) where you want to output the video to.
- Click start near the top (green button)
Handbrake will transcode the video to h265. This can take some time. Test the file in your plex instance stremaing to different devices. Monitor in plex dashboard, and using the streaming info on the clients. "Direct stream" is as good as "Direct Play" and either is what you're trying to get to. Once you're satisfied, then you can look up running a TDARR instance to automate all this against your entire collection.Now, when you want a subtitle on, in the Plex client, just select the subtitle option and it will fetch them from the internet. It's not perfect, but works in I'd say about 90+% of the times I try it. There is also a way to download the subtitle file and include it alongside the video file, but I don't do that so I cna't help with that. There is a program called BAZARR that is meant to automate the download of subtitle files, though.
More HDD bays and if you are happy with QTS / QNAP support then it may make sense to upgrade. I have 453Be and will stay there at least until for some time. I only use it for Plex.
I have my nas running a
$270 i7 11700, a
$150 b560 motherboard
$100ish 32gb ram
leftover computer case/ cpu from a previous build
and a $25 10gb nic and you're off and running .
I run OMV and jellyfin on mine, and the only downside is the power usage is 100w idle, and 110w even with 5+ streams
I chose that cpu for the IGP transcoding and the newest intel HD graphics at the time.. but tbh you really don't even need it for video encoding unless you're using REALLY old devices for your media.. most of it is audio or subtitle transcodes. I have a mix of h264 and 265 media, with all kinds of audio formats, and mostly just direct play everything with no issues.
More HDD bays and if you are happy with QTS / QNAP support then it may make sense to upgrade. I have 453Be and will stay there at least until for some time. I only use it for Plex.
I'm looking for 10gbe for my NAS at this point since its depressingly hilarious seeing transfers pegged at 115MB/s with basically no ramp up or ramp down at all.
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I have my nas running a
$270 i7 11700, a
$150 b560 motherboard
$100ish 32gb ram
leftover computer case/ cpu from a previous build
and a $25 10gb nic and you're off and running .
I run OMV and jellyfin on mine, and the only downside is the power usage is 100w idle, and 110w even with 5+ streams
I chose that cpu for the IGP transcoding and the newest intel HD graphics at the time.. but tbh you really don't even need it for video encoding unless you're using REALLY old devices for your media.. most of it is audio or subtitle transcodes. I have a mix of h264 and 265 media, with all kinds of audio formats, and mostly just direct play everything with no issues.
There's plenty or reasons to choose a purpose built appliance, that's been covered many times. If you're happy with a custom build then this isn't for you.
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The 4-bay one was $299
Pretty unreal
I'm looking for 10gbe for my NAS at this point since its depressingly hilarious seeing transfers pegged at 115MB/s with basically no ramp up or ramp down at all.
This is from 2 samsung 980 pros in raid 0 to my nas, which is 8x hgst/wd SAS drives
https://i.ibb.co/4mC3nCg/lan-speed-2.jpg
it will stay pegged at 995 MBPS
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