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14TB Seagate Exos X16 7200 RPM 3.5" Enterprise HDD (Manufacturer Recertified)

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Server Part Deals has 14TB Seagate Exos X16 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5" Internal Data Center Enterprise Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST14000NM001G) on sale for $129.99. Shipping is free.

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Features:
  • Standard model, ships in 512e format, Fast Format allows either 512e or 4Kn sector size
  • Helium sealed-drive design delivers lower total cost of ownership through lower power and weight
  • Digital environmental sensors to monitor internal drive conditions for optimal operation and performance
  • Proven enterprise-class reliability backed by a 2.5M-hr MTBF rating

Also Available:
12TB Seagate Exos X18 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM000J) $104.99

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Server Part Deals has 14TB Seagate Exos X16 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 256MB Cache 3.5" Internal Data Center Enterprise Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST14000NM001G) on sale for $129.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member HuskyDawg for sharing this deal.

Features:
  • Standard model, ships in 512e format, Fast Format allows either 512e or 4Kn sector size
  • Helium sealed-drive design delivers lower total cost of ownership through lower power and weight
  • Digital environmental sensors to monitor internal drive conditions for optimal operation and performance
  • Proven enterprise-class reliability backed by a 2.5M-hr MTBF rating

Also Available:
12TB Seagate Exos X18 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM000J) $104.99

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Written by oceanlake | Staff

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wbs3333
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That is kind of confusing then as the listing specs state:



The listing title then says FastFormat, not sure if that is referring to a feature of the drive or if that is the name of the Recertifiying company:

Update: FastFormat is a featue Segate drives have.



And then they define Manufacturer recertified as:



Talked to their customer service chat and they said they are recertified indeed by Seagate and that ServerPartDeals runs their own internal tests on top of it. That these drives are warrantied to have less than 50 power on hours.

attached the screenshots below.
degausser
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Be aware that this drive is apparently pretty loud, as discussed during a previous sale here: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc...rpm_19999/
nathan646
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2-year ServerPartDeals warranty, NOT Manufacturer warrantied.

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wbs3333
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Quote from KMan :
More like 3 copies, at least 2 different media types, 1 offsite and safely stored, cloud or otherwise.

My personal "backup" consists of syncing my important data between my PC, laptop and an encrypted thumb drive, and taking the latter with me whenever I can. The one weakness here is that when I'm home, all three are in the same place, which is dangerous in case of fire and such. So really I need a 4th, offsite backup solution. I keep meaning to put it on the "cloud", but have reservations about security and reliability. Are the ones that Google, Microsoft and Norton give you for free considered to be both?
Checkout Boxcryptor and rclone. I think BoxCryptor got bought by DropBox so not sure how is that going to affect its usage with other cloud services other than DropBox. Rclone is free and should be find too.
Dec 17, 2022
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KMan
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Quote from beggerking :
if you only have backups, when your hd fails, there is likely at least some data loss due to your RPO cannot be <= 0. The time between your last backup to failure cannot be <= 0

RAID helps you in this case... basically give you RPO=0 for mechinical failures.

so RAID + Backup go hand in hand to prevent data loss.
Isn't there such a thing as real-time backups, for files that are updated between regular backups? This would be like an incremental backup, but in real time and not just one batch of whichever files have been updated or created since the last full backup. If so, doesn't this take care of any data loss other than any that take place as the files are being backed up, which might not be tolerable in commercial settings but probably ok in home ones?
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KMan
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Quote from wbs3333 :
Checkout Boxcryptor and rclone. I think BoxCryptor got bought by DropBox so not sure how is that going to affect its usage with other cloud services other than DropBox. Rclone is free and should be find too.
For strictly home backups aren't the free ones from Norton, Google, etc., good enough?
Dec 17, 2022
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randalotto
Dec 17, 2022
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Quote from my3cents :
I've always seen that the fine print excludes used/refurb items from that warranty extension; only new stuff qualifies. Do you have a card that extends the warranty for used/refurb stuff?
I believe AmEx covers manufacturer refurbs.
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SeriousLlama437
Dec 17, 2022
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Quote from bk_InAZ :
This sounds like a fantastic deal. And I am very tempted (again). BUT every single time I have tried to trust a Seagate drive in the past 20 years, I have gotten burned. If these were WD drives, I'd get a few. I just bought two WDs (not the only company I trust), and have bought 5-6 more throughout the past year. I do upgrade them after about 5 years, but in my experience no Seagate has ever made it that far. I'm not a sysadmin (except at home). But I am an EE and a software developer. So lots and lots of drives in my history.

I haven't seen a comment on SD ever (to the best of my recollection) where someone said they've been burned by WD time-after-time and only trust Seagate because they buy lots of 'em and haven't experienced any (or very few) failures. But I've seen a significant number of comments like mine.
I've seen a lot of seagate in enterprise hardware that hasn't failed. I've seen a lot of consumer grade failures from Sandisk and seagate. But I rarely see WD fail. That said I've also seen plenty of seagate with 10 years and (surprisingly) still going strong. I'm not quite saying seagate is good, but in enterprise where equipment comes with seagate by default, we've had good success. Seagate consumer? Not a chance.
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allareacrew
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Quote from wbs3333 :
Checkout Boxcryptor and rclone. I think BoxCryptor got bought by DropBox so not sure how is that going to affect its usage with other cloud services other than DropBox. Rclone is free and should be find too.
Cryptomator over Boxcrypror. Veracrypt is another option
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mathew82284
Dec 17, 2022
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I bought 4 of these from newegg for $250 for my server and have had zero issue with them. So far I've had them for two years but they have worked great. At this price I'm tempted to grab a few more and build a custom server to expand my system. Hmmm.

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Nickos
Dec 17, 2022
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Quote from TheRedEyeBandit :
Thought on putting one of these in an enclosure and connecting to router as a poor man's nas?
You have the right idea. Mine has dozens of uses while still not storing "important data". It can keep secondary backups, media server content, downloads you're not proud of...
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duhh
Dec 17, 2022
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Quote from scholzpdx :
Finally ditched my remaining two HDDs after 30 years of using the tech.

This technology has too many compromises for consumer use with NVMe/SSDs being as cheap as it is.
ROFL. All storage has benefits and compromises. You can't get 28TB with parity in NVME/SSD for under $400.
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duhh
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Quote from scholzpdx :
How many consumers need that? Really think about it. Has to be infinitesimally small.
Yeah, but those are the ones on this thread. Average consumers don't need this type of mass storage. Why are you crapping on mass storage needs on a mass storage thread? If a use case can tolerate a loss of parity, or a failure, this is a fantastic deal.
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LavenderPickle7682
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Quote from MadPup :
If you're a home user using a large drive for, say torrents (as someone mentioned), you don't need it to be particularly fast. With a 7200 RPM drive you'll have more noise, more heat, and a higher chance of failure than a 5400 RPM. With the data density of spinning drives these days you can get 100MB/s from the slower drives which is plenty for most use cases. Just be sure to avoid shingled drives for anything but backups.
You're not having THAT much more heat or noise over a single 5400rpm drive. Maybe 10-20 years ago, the speed difference put them in different classes, but now they're about equal in terms of negative effects for a one-off, assuming you have a properly ventilated case and proper mounting.

As for longevity, I would expect spin-up/spin-down for idle power savings would have more of an effect on the lifespan than the rotational speed ever would, given this is an enterprise-level drive in modern day. And that spin-up/down effect would be minimal, well witihin the traditional failure curve.

It's when you get 10, 15, 25 of them spinning in a single chassis where the cumulative effect can be seen -- and at that point, go with the vendor recommendation.
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BoyangS
Dec 17, 2022
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Thanks grabbed the 12gb! 3x for a basic raid 5

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DillDozer
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Quote from beggerking :
absolutely wrong lesson learned...
you should start doing RAID or put your important in a NAS with raid. ALL storage fail, you just have to RAID them so you can recover.
brand of the storage really don't matter, its just random lottery to WHEN it'll fail.
ZFS ftw

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