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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 07:55 AM
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dealsambaJan 13, 2023 07:55 AM
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Quote from yellowsportster888 :
The $7500 tax credit has income caps for individual and joint filers so eligibility is not as easy as people think, unless you want to take a chance with playing with the IRS. For I think for a good number of people who buy Tesla's, their income is over the cap so the tax credit is not applicable. Feel free to look up the exact amounts for the caps to see if it applies to you or not.
This👆🏻.

See language from IRS before you get too excited (esp. Bay Area residents):

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after

In addition, your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) may not exceed:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers
You can use your modified AGI from the year you take delivery of the vehicle or the year before, whichever is less. If your modified AGI is below the threshold in 1 of the two years, you can claim the credit.

The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
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dragontalesJan 13, 2023 07:55 AM
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Quote from sowhatwegetdrunk :
Its not based on how much you owe when you file taxes. Line 24 on 1040 is the total federal tax you are supposed to pay. Even if you owe nothing when filing (and paid it all via payroll deductions), as long as Line 24 is $7500 or above (so you make $75K or more), then you will get the full rebate
ok thanks for the great info. I'm a total tax noob.
Jan 13, 2023 07:55 AM
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The_UntergangJan 13, 2023 07:55 AM
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Quote from dragontales :
Question, if we owe very little are there methods to make ourselves owe more (close to 7500) by the end of the year?
Cash out taxable retirement funds / investments.
Jan 13, 2023 07:57 AM
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KensicJan 13, 2023 07:57 AM
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Quote from APhamX :
If you purchase 2023, you can look at 2021?
yup, cuz thats the latest tax paper you got. and if your income situation is about the same as 2021 or bit more..then its a pretty good estimate thats how much you'll pay for 2023 filing
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dwcankerJan 13, 2023 07:57 AM
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Quote from dragontales :
Question, if we owe very little are there methods to make ourselves owe more (close to 7500) by the end of the year?
You can hold out for the used prices too keep crashing and claim the $4k credit on a $25k used EV. That is what I'm hoping for anyway.
Jan 13, 2023 07:59 AM
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new_yorkerJan 13, 2023 07:59 AM
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I wish it be still affordable EV option!
Jan 13, 2023 08:00 AM
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dealsambaJan 13, 2023 08:00 AM
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Quote from EfficientWalrus7040 :
Donating to charity is a write off. That reduces your taxable income. A tax credit is a dollar for dollar credit against your tax bill. If you owed $10,000 you'd now owe $2,500. If you owed $500 you'd be getting a rebate of $7,000.
Credit is nonrefundable per IRS. https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after

"The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years."

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RowlandCJan 13, 2023 08:00 AM
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Quote from RowlandC :
People with tax questions. Look at your 2021 1040 tax form. If line 24 is at least $7500 and your 2023 income is the same or above 2021 you'll maximize the $7500 ev credit. Simple as that.
Why the down vote lol
Jan 13, 2023 08:00 AM
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Cintel7Jan 13, 2023 08:00 AM
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Like everything else, prices are going back to pre - covid.
Jan 13, 2023 08:01 AM
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sowhatwegetdrunkJan 13, 2023 08:01 AM
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Quote from dwcanker :
You can hold out for the used prices too keep crashing and claim the $4k credit on a $25k used EV. That is what I'm hoping for anyway.
Income limits seem to be much lower for the 4K credit on used EV though - https://www.recurrentauto.com/res...ax-credits

Just saying...
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 08:04 AM
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Quote from happyjeryy :
The price in China is 30,000rmb, around $44,000. Considering the limitations, a lot of people cannot get the 7500 credit. The price in China is still lower than US.
since when did the great rmb of CCP is worth more than the USD? your math is off
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APhamXJan 13, 2023 08:06 AM
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Quote from xvx :
I honestly couldn't be paid to drive a Tesla. Garbage company with a garbage CEO. Subpar craftsmanship, subpar parts, subpar experience. I'd literally drive ANY other EV.
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LivelyDime2637Jan 13, 2023 08:06 AM
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So it seems like it is better to put in a custom order instead of an inventory order?
Inventory order = vision only cars.
Custom order = radar equipped cars, as long as you get delivery by March.

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Quote from xvx :
I honestly couldn't be paid to drive a Tesla. Garbage company with a garbage CEO. Subpar craftsmanship, subpar parts, subpar experience. I'd literally drive ANY other EV.
agreed. though i am still driving one because of autopilot and FSD which are still the best in the market. Though if you aren't getting FSD package and don't use autopilot, there is very little reason to drive one honestly.
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