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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 17, 2023 08:57 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 08:57 PM
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Quote from supersteals :
We need to start protesting like China. I got mine in Nov 22 and paid about the same but without the 10000 mile credit. I believe a class action suit is needed here. No one would have bought at that price if there was info that the price in Jan will drop so drastically
class action for what? are you this dense? you're saying u would file class action lawsuit.. but if it were reversed n elon increase the price.. are you going to do a class action checkbook writing to elon?
Jan 17, 2023 08:58 PM
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WifeCallsMeCheapJan 17, 2023 08:58 PM
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Analysts seem to agree lower prices means lower profits. Not everyone sees eye to eye, however, on the magnitude of the impact that the price cuts will have on the company and its stock price.
Jan 17, 2023 08:59 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 08:59 PM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
Yeah, I was referring to the federal credit. But you're right as well, it's not fraud for somebody to pay for a car you're using, even if you don't intend to transfer it to your name. Ask millions of high school and college kids who actually owns their car and pays for it.
yea its fraud.. those millions of high school kids with these cars on their name and paid for it are using daddy's trust fund money. get a grip.. there arent million of lebron james to buy hummer h2 in high school
Jan 17, 2023 09:01 PM
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grxnxdosJan 17, 2023 09:01 PM
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Quote from skinnywallet42 :
I don't know how the Fed tax credit works, but the CVRP rebate, I believe you have to keep the car for an amount of time, or else forfeit the rebate. Not sure if they actually audit or go after people.

I think they would be able to have their parents buy it (pay tax once) and just have their parents gift it to them, which would not require paying tax again. At least that's how it is in CA. No idea if there are minimal time restrictions either.
I imagine you could skirt the time-block requirement in your parent/child scenario by co-purchasing the vehicle with them. Parent as main buyer and child as cosigner. Once the time-block expires and the car is paid off, couldn't the child simply be able to remove you from title and registration?
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Jan 17, 2023 09:05 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 09:05 PM
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Quote from BrokePanda :
Analysts seem to agree lower prices means lower profits. Not everyone sees eye to eye, however, on the magnitude of the impact that the price cuts will have on the company and its stock price.
q1 23 sales is thru the roof next quarter earnings come out
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Jan 17, 2023 09:07 PM
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MurraytheDemonSkull
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Jan 17, 2023 09:07 PM
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Quote from supersteals :
We need to start protesting like China. I got mine in Nov 22 and paid about the same but without the 10000 mile credit. I believe a class action suit is needed here. No one would have bought at that price if there was info that the price in Jan will drop so drastically
If you do not opt-out from arbitration within 30 days after vehicle delivery, then it is not possible to take it to the court.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/1...ation.html
Jan 17, 2023 09:10 PM
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1jzgteJan 17, 2023 09:10 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
nah.. u still gotta do bathroom breaks.. you not driving 600 miles without a stop.. unless you got some mental issues
well yea.. 10 minute bathroom break vs a 1 hour charge is a huge difference

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Jan 17, 2023 09:11 PM
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gotoee37000Jan 17, 2023 09:11 PM
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If irs sometimes in March publishes the rules concerning the battery sourcing which make Tesla vehicles unqualified for the $3750 credit, which other car companies will be qualified for that at that moment?
Jan 17, 2023 09:13 PM
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sfkeepayJan 17, 2023 09:13 PM
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Quote from NotAbot987 :
I agree, it boggles my mind that my kids' schools use Facebook or Twitter for communication and make students watch Youtube with advertisements. Still, taking it on single individual who is really not the cause of the problem is moving in the wrong direction, even worse it's counterproductive. TL;DR singling out Musk is not going to fix the issue(s).
You're right of course. If Musk sold Twitter tomorrow it would only be a band-aid. Unless a large majority can agree on a set principles that address the problems (both created and exaggerated) of social media, we're just swatting at mosquitos in the middle of a swamp.
Jan 17, 2023 09:14 PM
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1jzgteJan 17, 2023 09:14 PM
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Quote from tonkotsu :
Depends on the miles and route

It's like a smartphone

You're not supposed to fully charge if you need continuous usage

You generally charge for 20-30 minutes n then continue driving

Even if we round up, the person you know stopped 8 times, 30 minutes each?

Superchargers usually charge about 200 miles per 30 minutes

If your friend was driving 1600 miles (30 minutes x8, your 4 hours) that's not unusual

They knew this going in buying an ev, doesn't matter if it's a tesla or some other ev

What's unusual is not stopping for the restroom, snack, or meal on a 10hr+ trip

That seems to be what you're implying
youre trying to justify an added 4 hours to an already 10 hour drive.. it sounds pretty stupid
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CycloneFWJan 17, 2023 09:16 PM
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Quote from 1jzgte :
youre trying to justify an added 4 hours to an already 10 hour drive.. it sounds pretty stupid
Again, other than potentially there was a line to use a charger, I'd be surprised. Like I said a few pages ago, it added 90 minutes to an 11 hour drive for me recently, and that 90 min also included me eating lunch at one of the charging stops.
Jan 17, 2023 09:16 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 09:16 PM
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Quote from 1jzgte :
well yea.. 10 minute bathroom break vs a 1 hour charge is a huge difference
or just walk.. its free. no insurance or liability insurance to worry
Jan 17, 2023 09:18 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 09:18 PM
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Quote from gotoee37000 :
If irs sometimes in March publishes the rules concerning the battery sourcing which make Tesla vehicles unqualified for the $3750 credit, which other car companies will be qualified for that at that moment?
not sure maybe model y with new battery
Jan 17, 2023 09:27 PM
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Travis64Jan 17, 2023 09:27 PM
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Got my trade in 5 days later.
10k less then i paid for it 6 months ago for a jeep idk if its worth it.I rejected the offer.Has anyone got them to offer higher if you resubmit?
Also didn't mention any tax savings with trade in?

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Jan 17, 2023 09:29 PM
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vndragonslayerJan 17, 2023 09:29 PM
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Quote from Travis64 :
Got my trade in 5 days later.
10k less then i paid for it 6 months ago for a jeep idk if its worth it.I rejected the offer.Has anyone got them to offer higher if you resubmit?
Also didn't mention any tax savings with trade in?
why would anyone offer used car offer when tesla are at a all time low after incentives.. theyre in the business of making money, not throwing away like carvana..

people need to accept the reality right now that used car bubble is broken and don't think of a car as an investment purchase...

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