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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 18, 2023 04:17 AM
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pisceanJan 18, 2023 04:17 AM
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Quote from mintblue3411 :
What is mpg of Tesla? I own an ev before and charge at home and found electric cost almost same as 30mpg car
Lol no charging at home is cheaper costs 7-14 c per kWh
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Out of curiosity. Anyone else excited about test driving the resigned Prius?. Not exactly apples to apples but certainly am interesting alternative.
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rgadowskiJan 18, 2023 04:17 AM
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Quote from LovelyRain4135 :
Crap on wheels? Sounds like someone has never driven a tesla. Pretty sure it beats most sports ICE cars in performance without needing premium fuel to achieve 15mpg.
Ive driven a tesla more than you've driven all your cars combined!
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Jan 18, 2023 04:18 AM
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mintblue3411Jan 18, 2023 04:18 AM
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Quote from piscean :
Lol no charging at home is cheaper costs 7-14 c per kWh
Really? Where to charge car?
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WIckedNewsJan 18, 2023 04:21 AM
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Quote from mintblue3411 :
What is mpg of Tesla? I own an ev before and charge at home and found electric cost almost same as 30mpg car

MPG, or miles per gallon, is a measure of how fuel-efficient a car is. It tells you how far a car can go on a gallon of gasoline. Electric vehicles like the Tesla do not use gasoline, so they don't have an MPG rating. Instead, they use electricity to power the car, and their efficiency is measured in miles per kWh (kilowatt-hour).

Tesla provides an estimate of the cost of electricity per mile, and this cost varies depending on the type of car and the local electricity rates. The cost of electricity per mile is generally much lower than the cost of gasoline per mile, but it depends on the cost of electricity in your area and how you charge your car.

For Tesla Model Y, the cost of electricity per mile is around $0.02 - $0.03 depending on local electricity rates.

It's also worth noting that charging at home is usually cheaper than charging at a public charging station. If you have the ability to charge your vehicle at home, you can also take advantage of off-peak pricing if your utility offers it, which can further reduce the cost of charging your vehicle.

It's important to consider the cost of charging and the range of the vehicle when making a decision about buying an electric vehicle.
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mintblue3411Jan 18, 2023 04:23 AM
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Quote from WIckedNews :
MPG, or miles per gallon, is a measure of how fuel-efficient a car is. It tells you how far a car can go on a gallon of gasoline. Electric vehicles like the Tesla do not use gasoline, so they don't have an MPG rating. Instead, they use electricity to power the car, and their efficiency is measured in miles per kWh (kilowatt-hour).

Tesla provides an estimate of the cost of electricity per mile, and this cost varies depending on the type of car and the local electricity rates. The cost of electricity per mile is generally much lower than the cost of gasoline per mile, but it depends on the cost of electricity in your area and how you charge your car.

For Tesla Model Y, the cost of electricity per mile is around $0.02 - $0.03 depending on local electricity rates.

It's also worth noting that charging at home is usually cheaper than charging at a public charging station. If you have the ability to charge your vehicle at home, you can also take advantage of off-peak pricing if your utility offers it, which can further reduce the cost of charging your vehicle.

It's important to consider the cost of charging and the range of the vehicle when making a decision about buying an electric vehicle.
You can convert to mpg using gas price now
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rgadowskiJan 18, 2023 04:27 AM
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Quote from mintblue3411 :
What is mpg of Tesla? I own an ev before and charge at home and found electric cost almost same as 30mpg car
at the supercharger it's horrible @ 10 cents a mile, but at home it's more like 3 cents per mile for a model 3

photo of model 3 charging. top left shows +63 (miles added) and right side show much much it costs to add those miles

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pisceanJan 18, 2023 04:28 AM
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Quote from WIckedNews :
MPG, or miles per gallon, is a measure of how fuel-efficient a car is. It tells you how far a car can go on a gallon of gasoline. Electric vehicles like the Tesla do not use gasoline, so they don't have an MPG rating. Instead, they use electricity to power the car, and their efficiency is measured in miles per kWh (kilowatt-hour).

Tesla provides an estimate of the cost of electricity per mile, and this cost varies depending on the type of car and the local electricity rates. The cost of electricity per mile is generally much lower than the cost of gasoline per mile, but it depends on the cost of electricity in your area and how you charge your car.

For Tesla Model Y, the cost of electricity per mile is around $0.02 - $0.03 depending on local electricity rates.

It's also worth noting that charging at home is usually cheaper than charging at a public charging station. If you have the ability to charge your vehicle at home, you can also take advantage of off-peak pricing if your utility offers it, which can further reduce the cost of charging your vehicle.

It's important to consider the cost of charging and the range of the vehicle when making a decision about buying an electric vehicle.
2-3 cents. Don't think any utility will charge you that low. 9 cents is the lowest I have seen. Don't bother buying Tesla if you are in Hawaii or Alaska

https://www.electriccarfaq.com/bl...3-at-home/
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mintblue3411Jan 18, 2023 04:28 AM
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Quote from rgadowski :
at the supercharger it's horrible @ 10 cents a mile, but at home it's more like 3 cents per mile for a model 3

photo of model 3 charging. top left shows +63 (miles added) and right side show much much it costs to add those miles
So you electric cost is 0.1 per kWh?
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mintblue3411Jan 18, 2023 04:30 AM
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Quote from piscean :
2-3 cents. Don't think any utility will charge you that low. 9 cents is the lowest I have seen. Don't bother buying Tesla if you are in Hawaii or Alaska

https://www.electriccarfaq.com/bl...3-at-home/
My normal electric cost is 0.35$ per kWh, I feel electric car does not save money for me than gas which is 4$ per gallon
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Jan 18, 2023 04:31 AM
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rgadowskiJan 18, 2023 04:31 AM
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Quote from mintblue3411 :
So you electric cost is 0.1 per kWh?
about 14 cents per kWh on average, but some areas are much more expensive. the model 3 can get 4-4.5 miles for kWh.

your local utility most likely has a deal for EV charging overnight like national grid does in Upstate NY. The plan doubles connection fee to $35 monthly but drops fee from 14 cents to around 6 cents per kWh
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Jan 18, 2023 04:37 AM
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pisceanJan 18, 2023 04:37 AM
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Quote from mintblue3411 :
My normal electric cost is 0.35$ per kWh, I feel electric car does not save money for me than gas which is 4$ per gallon
Ya I didn't calculate kWh to miles based on your driving you might get 4 miles.
Jan 18, 2023 04:39 AM
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pisceanJan 18, 2023 04:39 AM
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One thing is for sure ev cars are not for long drives. The problem is you have limited stops based on charger network and need to stop before 20 pc battery at least.
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rgadowskiJan 18, 2023 04:44 AM
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Quote from piscean :
One thing is for sure ev cars are not for long drives. The problem is you have limited stops based on charger network and need to stop before 20 pc battery at least.
actually electric charging networks are everywhere. the car directs you through them to your destination. stops are great for getting something to eat, stretching and/or shopping. After 342k miles on my current MS i can say i have not regretted my choice at all. this does not include the 180k plus miles i put on my first MS.

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vndragonslayerJan 18, 2023 04:50 AM
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30 civic is fully loaded and costs cheaper to gas up on the road. The 37k tesla is crap on wheels and costs an average of 10 cents a mile to run on Superchargers. If you don't believe me I'll be more than happy to find pictures I took while supercharging a long range model 3.
30k civic + tax and gas is gonna cost more in short+long term than a 37k tesla

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