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expiredfatlardo posted Jan 29, 2023 11:57 PM
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4TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive

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Amazon has 4TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive SSD (CT4000P3PSSD8) on sale for $264.99Shipping is free.

Adorama has 4TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive SSD (CT4000P3PSSD8) on sale for $264.99. Shipping is free.
  • Note, for Adorama this item is temporarily on backorder, you can order it now and it will ship as soon as it arrives.
Newegg has 4TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive SSD (CT4000P3PSSD8) on sale for $264.99. Shipping is free.
  • Note: Currently backordered and will not be shipped until inventory is confirmed. You will not be charged until this order is processed. Newegg cannot guarantee inventory for backordered items.
Thanks to community member fatlardo for finding this deal.

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  • Up to 5000MB/s sequential reads
  • Random read/write 650K/900K IOPS
  • MTTF greater than 1.5 million hours

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Amazon has 4TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive SSD (CT4000P3PSSD8) on sale for $264.99Shipping is free.

Adorama has 4TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive SSD (CT4000P3PSSD8) on sale for $264.99. Shipping is free.
  • Note, for Adorama this item is temporarily on backorder, you can order it now and it will ship as soon as it arrives.
Newegg has 4TB Crucial P3 Plus PCIe 4.0 3D NAND NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive SSD (CT4000P3PSSD8) on sale for $264.99. Shipping is free.
  • Note: Currently backordered and will not be shipped until inventory is confirmed. You will not be charged until this order is processed. Newegg cannot guarantee inventory for backordered items.
Thanks to community member fatlardo for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Up to 5000MB/s sequential reads
  • Random read/write 650K/900K IOPS
  • MTTF greater than 1.5 million hours

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • This is $35 lower (12% savings) than the regular price per the manufacturer's website.
    • This price is $10 lower than a recent Frontpage Deal.
    • See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.
  • About this Store:

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ifoundu
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I believe that one is not the plus version
Davidhh
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The gen number is the PCIe (express) generation, not the Playstation generation!
The P in the drive names, are just the brand's name for that drive.

PCIe transfer speeds increase dramatically with each generation.
The gen4 one in this post advertises sequential read speeds up to 5000 MB/s and sequential write speeds up to 4200 MB/s.
The gen3 drive they're talking about advertises sequential read/write speeds up to 3500/3000 MB/s, or about 30% slower than the other drive.
There are some new gen5 SSD's coming out that have speeds over 10,000 MB/s, but they'll be pretty expensive for now, as is most new technology.

In order to achieve those speeds the m.2 socket on your motherboard must be rated for that generation of PCIe. Most of the last couple of generations of motherboards have at least one gen4 m.2 slot. Most of the latest generation of motherboards (other than the cheapest of them) have at least one gen 5 m.2 slot. However, SSDs are backwards compatible, if you don't mind the slower speed. if you were to put the gen4 SSD we're talking about in an older motherboard with a gen 3 m.2 slot, you'd likely get speeds similar to the gen3 SSD.

Prices have come way down on SSD's in the past year or two. Most people now keep 1-2 TB drives in their system for all applications, and even some games. It's generally a good idea to have your games on an NVME SSD, to save time in loading and to get the best performance in the game. Also, most modern motherboards now come with 2-4 m.2 slots, but only 4 SATA connectors.
techmaster009
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Thanks for posting, don't want to be that person but it was 209 few days ago directly from crucial. grabbed one and made it 222 with tax..

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Jan 30, 2023 07:46 PM
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Voodoo22007Jan 30, 2023 07:46 PM
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Was considering this with an enclosure capable of Thunderbolt speeds or the 4TB Sandisk that seems to be weather resistant....Going this route can let me shuck the drive anytime I want, and upgrade later....Anyone that has experience in this got some feedback?
Jan 30, 2023 07:51 PM
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MrWheelNDealJan 30, 2023 07:51 PM
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Also available at BH with no sales tax if you have their PayBoo card.
Jan 30, 2023 08:13 PM
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dplaneJan 30, 2023 08:13 PM
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Is the P3 Plus series considered to be reliable/durable enough as a long term OS drive? Wonder if I should be looking at MLC drives instead, or at least something with a higher TBW rating...
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Jan 30, 2023 08:16 PM
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auctionsaverJan 30, 2023 08:16 PM
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Quote from acefej :
PCIe gen 3 vs PCIe gen 4, nothing to do with console or other factors. The PS5 does however have minimum speed requirements for their internal drives which is only achievable by gen 4 drives.

And keep in mind that both are much faster than an SATA SSD. I went to a Gen3 (3500 MB/s) from an SATA... and it was night and day. Recently upgraded it to this Gen 4, and while slightly faster, it wasn't very noticeable. My main reason for upgrade was 1TB to 4TB.

I do a ton of 4K video editing for my channel where I am constantly swapping files around that range from 1GB to 10GB.

Also, PCI3's cap is 1GB/s if I am correct and NVME is 4 lanes. So that would be a theoretical maximum of 4GB/s whereas PCI 4 doubles that to 8GB/s. And as someone will mention... that is the high limit. You rarely get the max as the system has to do lookups and such, not to mention that the operating system itself eats up bandwidth.

Call me an old hat though, but I remember my first hard drive. 40MB external hard drive for my Mac Classic II. That thing amazed me. And yes... 40MB. Who even knows what the speed was. The internal was 40MB as well. I was also amazed that I could use up to 8MB of it for "Virtual Memory" on OS 7. lol
Last edited by auctionsaver January 30, 2023 at 12:27 PM.
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Jan 30, 2023 08:20 PM
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RedflyerJan 30, 2023 08:20 PM
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Teamgroup had their 4TB ssd for $199. Why pay such a high price especially when there is a massive oversupply of DRAM and NAND right now?
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Jan 30, 2023 09:38 PM
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Dreamliner330Jan 30, 2023 09:38 PM
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I was recently looking for a Gen4 2TB+ drive to replace my 970 Pro 1TB, all I found were lots of recent one-star reviews talking about drive failures: File corruption, blue screens, PS5 randomly not recognizing, etc. Seems very common across most all Gen4 drives, the 5000MB/s+ ones anyway. I ended up sticking with the 970 Pro 1TB.

I wanted to buy something, but I don't want to deal with a failure. Frustrating.

The sequential speed of this drive looks about the same as the 970 Pro, but the Random 4K looks significantly faster (~2800MB/s (P3) vs ~750MB/s (970 Pro). Hmm...
Last edited by Dreamliner330 January 30, 2023 at 01:45 PM.
Jan 30, 2023 11:44 PM
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pLLLJan 30, 2023 11:44 PM
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You can get it for $210 on Adorama...
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Jan 30, 2023 11:47 PM
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JonfloJan 30, 2023 11:47 PM
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Quote from pLLL :
You can get it for $210 on Adorama...
You can't just say that and not explain...
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Jan 30, 2023 11:58 PM
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kesha1Jan 30, 2023 11:58 PM
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How did it get to the Slickdeals? It is more expensive than the manufacturer sales it for. Very strange.
Wait, this is a Plus version, huh!
Then probably it worth it.
Last edited by kesha1 January 30, 2023 at 04:04 PM.
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Jan 31, 2023 12:01 AM
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pLLLJan 31, 2023 12:01 AM
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Quote from Jonflo :
You can't just say that and not explain...
https://www.adorama.com/ct4p3ssd8...=affiliate

On backorder. Oh well, lol

best buy for $250: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cruc...Id=6509716
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Jan 31, 2023 12:19 AM
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goldenroolJan 31, 2023 12:19 AM
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Purchased the P3 4TB $210 deal last week, direct from Crucial. Rec'd Saturday and finished install this afternoon. To cut to the chase, my initial impression is underwhelmed to say the least. It works but is much slower than anticipated. My expectations were set by the somewhat favorable review on Tomshardware.com. Either their testing did not reflect real world usage, was inaccurate or Crucial is changing the components.

Doing informal tests, comparing xfer speeds of writing 714GB data from one SK Hynix P31 drive to another SK Hynix P31 and then writing same data from an SK Hynix P31 to Crucial P3, I found the Crucial P3 to take 3X longer. 21 mins vs 65 mins. Environment was identical inside an LG Gram 15 (16GB RAM, I5-1135G7, PCIe Gen 3.0 dual slots). There is no active cooling or heatsink due to space constraints of a laptop.

If the file xfer had been longer, suspect the comparison would have been even worse as the Crucial seemed to be struggling more. During both tests, the write operation would sometimes halt then resume. Could have been result of the drives have overrun any caching scheme or possibly throttling due to heat. The SK Hynix peaked at 74C while the P3 hit 78C. However, after the file copy was completed, both drives cooled back down quickly 44C and 36C, respectively.

My first inclination is to return the Crucial P3 but not sure there is a suitable replacement in this product niche, namely, comparatively inexpensive mass storage in a NVMe form factor.
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Jan 31, 2023 12:55 AM
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xiZmJan 31, 2023 12:55 AM
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Quote from goldenrool :
Believe the poster was doing short hand, refering to the SK Hynix P41 versus this Crucial P3 (and P3 Plus). The P41 is a much better and robust NVMe drive (and more expensive) than either of the Crucial P3 and P3 Plus.
It's also twice the price.
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plasboJan 31, 2023 01:01 AM
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No Crucial even if it's $26. Not even good for back up drive. Very unreliable in my experience. All of mine died too soon. You must understand why it's so cheap.
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Jedi2155Jan 31, 2023 01:05 AM
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Quote from pLLL :
You can get it for $210 on Adorama...
You're both quoting the P3, not the P3 Plus.

Adorama is $265 - https://www.adorama.com/ct4p3pssd8.html
Best Buy is $300 - https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cruc...Id=6509710
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Jan 31, 2023 01:08 AM
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Stevo21Jan 31, 2023 01:08 AM
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I bought this for my ps5 about a month ago and have no regrets! no more having to transfer back and forth from an old hard drive

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