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popularEmperor4World posted Jan 30, 2023 04:21 PM
popularEmperor4World posted Jan 30, 2023 04:21 PM

Ford cuts prices on electric Mustang Mach-E - Upto 5,900$ - Varies by Configuration

$63,995

$69,895

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Ford cuts prices on electric Mustang Mach-E, More details to follow. Mods please add relevant information as needed.

https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/

2023 MUSTANG MACH-E FORMER MSRP UPDATED MSRP CHANGE
Select RWD Standard Range $46,895 $45,995 $900
Select eAWD Standard Range $49,595 $48,995 $600
California Route 1 eAWD Extended Range $63,575 $57,995 $5,580
Premium RWD Standard Range $54,975 $50,995 $3,980
Premium eAWD Standard Range $57,675 $53,995 $3,680
GT Extended Range $69,895 $63,995 $5,900
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Ford cuts prices on electric Mustang Mach-E, More details to follow. Mods please add relevant information as needed.

https://www.ford.com/suvs/mach-e/

2023 MUSTANG MACH-E FORMER MSRP UPDATED MSRP CHANGE
Select RWD Standard Range $46,895 $45,995 $900
Select eAWD Standard Range $49,595 $48,995 $600
California Route 1 eAWD Extended Range $63,575 $57,995 $5,580
Premium RWD Standard Range $54,975 $50,995 $3,980
Premium eAWD Standard Range $57,675 $53,995 $3,680
GT Extended Range $69,895 $63,995 $5,900

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Jan 31, 2023 10:41 AM
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takoma20Jan 31, 2023 10:41 AM
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Quote from BlueMint625 :
do not buy a EV until there is a battery break thorough which can support 1000miles under 30 mins charge
EVs were invented in the nineteenth century. This is as good as it's gotten.
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Jan 31, 2023 11:33 AM
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Ro19Jan 31, 2023 11:33 AM
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Ford naively thinks they can compete with Tesla, when they don't have any control over the dealer markups and fees
Jan 31, 2023 12:01 PM
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aberroJan 31, 2023 12:01 PM
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They will have to cut way more than that to get me to look at an expensive golf cart.
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Jan 31, 2023 01:08 PM
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UniquePen959
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Jan 31, 2023 01:08 PM
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Quote from im14abeer :
No comment on the deal, but that Ford put the Mustang badge on this thing. 🤡🤡🤡 Just how?
Yeah, putting it on a EV is just marketing! Oh, yeah... putting it on a gas guzzler is marketing too!
Jan 31, 2023 01:10 PM
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krazymopJan 31, 2023 01:10 PM
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Quote from takoma20 :
When you're on a road trip in the winter waiting for a tow truck to get you to a charger, maybe you can fire up that clip to pass the time.
Or...you could just plan ahead and map out charging stations before you go on a long road trip. It's really not that complicated.
Jan 31, 2023 01:11 PM
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ArmchairQBJan 31, 2023 01:11 PM
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Quote from Paupaaa :
What's the waitlist for the maverick looking like these days?
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Jan 31, 2023 01:29 PM
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likeawJan 31, 2023 01:29 PM
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Quote from cuoreesitante :
I'm a 2018 model 3 owner that is trading in to get the new Y. Even the standard range AWD Mach E costs $49k with no tax credit, I ordered my long range Y for $53k and I will be getting the $7500 tax credit. Now whether you think you want/need the extended range that's purely personal.

Also if you think you will need to charge out on the road frequently you should REALLY think long and hard about if you have the infrastructure around where you live with the Mach E. Tesla's charging network is vastly superior in terms of both numbers and reliability. I have some ChargePoint and Electrify America chargers in the mall that I frequent and there are always issues with them.
Tesla is opening their charging network to everyone.. your point?
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Jan 31, 2023 01:35 PM
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nightanoleJan 31, 2023 01:35 PM
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Quote from takoma20 :
EVs were invented in the nineteenth century. This is as good as it's gotten.
Im still amazed how good the fuel economy has gotten from even 20-30 years ago. back in the day Subarus all got 21 highway, mid sized trucks got like 15, hell i was lucky if my rsx got 25. Now it seems everything is up 10mpg, without having to resort to hybrid, and they are heavier than the old models.

Im pretty sure in the next 10 years we will hit an inflection point where driving a small SUV is going to cost the same with both gas and electric models.
Jan 31, 2023 01:41 PM
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nightanoleJan 31, 2023 01:41 PM
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Quote from likeaw :
Tesla is opening their charging network to everyone.. your point?
That its not going to happen for a year or two at best. What he was getting at is tesla chargers "just work". "The rest of the chargers" its a crap shoot if they are broke are not (hint a lot are per station). Hell you even have fords and chevys getting bricked by "The rest of the chargers".


Im a "charge at a supercharger or dealer/manufacture owned station" or at your home kinda guy.
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Jan 31, 2023 01:44 PM
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Dr. J
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Jan 31, 2023 01:44 PM
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Quote from fishyx :
Not sold on pure electric vehicles yet but wouldn't mind having one as a second vehicle to beat around town if prices come down to a reasonable level.


Agree, but holy shit that's a super premium for a car that's ostensibly there to save money. In other words, I've looked into it - second car - to not have to drive my SUV around, but there isn't a scenario where that would be cheaper, because there is annual overhead to just having a vehicle - insurance and in CT, taxes. Plus you have to buy the car. THEN we can talk about marginal cost of driving. Right now I pay about $3/gal for gas and $0.36/kWh. Let's say I have a 30mpg car and a 4mile/kWh EV. The per-mile difference is 1 cent. If that EV, nevermind the capital cost, costs me $1000/yr just to have (between insurance and taxes), I have to drive 100k miles just for it to earn its keep.

To get that to a reasonable number, let's say 20k miles, that cost difference would have to be 5 cents/mile, which would be gas @ $4.20 assuming that the price of electricity doesn't change.

Then we have to pay for the car itself. The math just doesn't add up. Maybe if you have some absolute gas or diesel hog truck it might.
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Jan 31, 2023 01:49 PM
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Quote from LostWallet :
On an episode of Combat they showed French coal power freight trucks they used in France during WW2 and before. And in the same week as that episode, on TCM there was an old movie, I think "Life With Father" that showed a coal powered steam car used in the USA.

Up in Maine I know someone who uses coal for heat in the winter. He says it is as cheap as can be. He must have a source.

The irony is with Europe's push to wind/solar, and Russia squeezing their balls wrt. natural gas, coal for home heating is making a comeback [rferl.org].

Poland allows use of brown coal to heat homes amid supply crisis [reuters.com]

Gas crisis: Germans rush to stock up on coal for winter warmth [euronews.com]

It's not uncommon to find a home here in New England that has an old coal stove, but unlikely that you'll find someone actually using it.
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Jan 31, 2023 02:35 PM
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theeulogyJan 31, 2023 02:35 PM
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Quote from Ananke :
On Friday there was news about the House of Rep passing a bill about closing the loophole of the tax credit. At the moment IRS procrastinates and has not advised about tax credit treatment of vehicles in 2023 yet, which allows that maybe a credit will be available for such vehicles not compliant to the Inflation Reduction Act. However, the House will act and will close that loop retroactively from Jan 1st. Do not expect the $7,500 for that Bolt. It has to be sourced and assembled in North America. GM doesn't have such a vehicle in the retail yet. That's why the list of vehicles says "...you MAY qualify for a tax credit UP TO....".
This bill is expected to go nowhere, sorry to bust your bubble. I am from the home state of Manchin, it's no secret hr is not a fan of green energy, and neither is any of the state!
Jan 31, 2023 02:37 PM
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jomeyqJan 31, 2023 02:37 PM
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Quote from Dr. J :
Agree, but holy shit that's a super premium for a car that's ostensibly there to save money. In other words, I've looked into it - second car - to not have to drive my SUV around, but there isn't a scenario where that would be cheaper, because there is annual overhead to just having a vehicle - insurance and in CT, taxes. Plus you have to buy the car. THEN we can talk about marginal cost of driving. Right now I pay about $3/gal for gas and $0.36/kWh. Let's say I have a 30mpg car and a 4mile/kWh EV. The per-mile difference is 1 cent. If that EV, nevermind the capital cost, costs me $1000/yr just to have (between insurance and taxes), I have to drive 100k miles just for it to earn its keep.

To get that to a reasonable number, let's say 20k miles, that cost difference would have to be 5 cents/mile, which would be gas @ $4.20 assuming that the price of electricity doesn't change.

Then we have to pay for the car itself. The math just doesn't add up. Maybe if you have some absolute gas or diesel hog truck it might.
If you're looking for a scenario where having 2 cars is somehow cheaper than having one, that's going to be pretty impossible. I think the person you're responding to is more likely already a multi car household (as most are) and considering changing one of those cars from gas to battery. That's a scenario that makes a lot of sense for most families, and means you can even use a very short range battery vehicle to handle all of your typical commuting, errands and other short trips.

Your math also doesn't account for the value of your personal time. With a gas car you spend more than you realize on things like stopping at gas stations, getting oil changes, emissions inspections etc. Those really add up, and seem like a crazy hassle once you've had an electric for a while and don't have to deal with them.
Jan 31, 2023 02:46 PM
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samm7020Jan 31, 2023 02:46 PM
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Quote from shakeNbake19 :
Serious Answer: folks might prefer the aesthetics of the Mach-E (I think it's a good looking EV), no plans to travel far from home (charging networks other than Tesla's are terrible for roadtrips), you prefer the Ford brand, you want a physical knob...
Plans change. Cold weather can deplete your battery. The biggest issues with EV's is range anxiety and finding chargers. There is no alternative to Tesla currently except Hybrids which are also very popular. Tesla's sales numbers support this.
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Jan 31, 2023 03:09 PM
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psycttoJan 31, 2023 03:09 PM
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Quote from jomeyq :
If you're looking for a scenario where having 2 cars is somehow cheaper than having one, that's going to be pretty impossible. I think the person you're responding to is more likely already a multi car household (as most are) and considering changing one of those cars from gas to battery. That's a scenario that makes a lot of sense for most families, and means you can even use a very short range battery vehicle to handle all of your typical commuting, errands and other short trips.

Your math also doesn't account for the value of your personal time. With a gas car you spend more than you realize on things like stopping at gas stations, getting oil changes, emissions inspections etc. Those really add up, and seem like a crazy hassle once you've had an electric for a while and don't have to deal with them.
don't all those ICE times get blown out of the water if you have to stop and charge at a location without a supercharger? i live ~80miles NW of NYC and superchargers are very sparse, if i'm out in PA or north they get even more spread out.
i do agree though, if you wait at dealerships/garages for work... yeah, that time adds up, although with oil changes being generally 10k it's a lot less. .which is why i never wait, i always drop my car off and pick it up later when it's convenient most of the time after hours, i rarely ever see the guys, just have them throw my key under the mat and lock the door.
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