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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries. Fidelity Fixed Income Page[fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond. Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries[fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.
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JEPI seems mediocre - dividend yield is low. Plus holds high PE stocks with low or no dividends. Didn't do too much research but something like SCHD has better yield and better stock composition for a dividend fund.
Can someone help me understand how CDs work? If it says 11 Month CD at 5% APY, does that mean you get 5% of whatever amount you deposit at? For example if you put $100 on a 11 Month CD at 5% APY, you would get back $5 at the end of 11 months?
Generally I understand how 12 months work. If my bank has a 5% APY interest rate, my monthly interest is 5% of my total money divided by 12. Does an 11 month CD work similarly?
Can someone help me understand how CDs work? If it says 11 Month CD at 5% APY, does that mean you get 5% of whatever amount you deposit at? For example if you put $100 on a 11 Month CD at 5% APY, you would get back $5 at the end of 11 months?
Generally I understand how 12 months work. If my bank has a 5% APY interest rate, my monthly interest is 5% of my total money divided by 12. Does an 11 month CD work similarly?
I am new to investing but I think that the APY is always a baseline percentage of interest for 12 month period (1 year). So for 11 months, you would get 4.58% interest on the money you invested, for 6 months 2.5% and so on.
He makes a valid point and his risk potential may be higher. 30+ years ago I walked into Prudential for a broker CD. The Prudential was pitching me to invest in stocks. I was a lot younger - all I could see was the safety and fixed interest rates. Now I have zero CD's - my investments are a lot more complicated and overall have done lot better than CD's. So don't just LOL just because you have your blinders on.
I've seen investments double and much higher with individual stocks. CDs and bonds are great for the risk adverse, but I feel younger adults need to learn about the market. The real money (and risk) exists with stocks. 5% is nice. It's just not much in the grand scheme of things.
So the consequence of ending earlier is just you forfeit some of the interest you already "earned"? So for example, you put in $10,000, the penalties will never mean you lose any of the original $10,000, just the interest you earned? So basically no risk to your original investment?
Only if you have accrued enough interest to offset the penalty. Lets say you start cd and less than month you change your mind and try to withdraw the penalty can eat into your principal. Glance over the read the terms and conditions.
Grace Period: You may redeem your Certificate of Deposit within ten (10) calendar days after the maturity date without penalty.
What happens if you don't redeem within 10 days?
This is a good call out as if you don't choose otherwise, this CD will renew automatically. I tried to change this to close out the account after maturity, but it's requiring link to another bank account.
I am trying to link to an external account but having system issues verifying my phone number. More than likely I will need to contact customer service to manually add an external bank account or perhaps open up their online savings account which appears to be free with no minimal balance requirement.
What is JEPI? Is this any other stock-based? I don't want to risk in this market.
People should not confuse stock or baskets of stocks like JEPI with US Treasury or CDs.
JEPI or any other mutual fund/ETF - the principal is not guaranteed; yield is not guaranteed. So if you put $1K in JEPI you might end up with $900 in a year later. You can also make fair bit - but it is an ETF - a basket of stocks with high dividends.
What JEPI does do is use covered calls/options to enhance return a bit - works better on down/sideway markets. But like any other stock-based ETF - it can lose money, it did lose money last year.
There is a site called SaveBetter.com - that offer a collection of bank offerings - sort of like a broker for CDs/saving accounts. Read up on it before you open an account - but i'm comfortable they're FDIC insured (they use a common/pool account).
They have a CD via Sallemaye bank - that is 5% CD for 2 years. Better for those looking to lock in a rate for longer period.
This is a good call out as if you don't choose otherwise, this CD will renew automatically. I tried to change this to close out the account after maturity, but it's requiring link to another bank account.
I am trying to link to an external account but having system issues verifying my phone number. More than likely I will need to contact customer service to manually add an external bank account or perhaps open up their online savings account which appears to be free with no minimal balance requirement.
luckily i have a cap one acct so im assuming its easy just to type in my savings acct # to cash out at maturity?
Can someone help me understand how CDs work? If it says 11 Month CD at 5% APY, does that mean you get 5% of whatever amount you deposit at? For example if you put $100 on a 11 Month CD at 5% APY, you would get back $5 at the end of 11 months?
Generally I understand how 12 months work. If my bank has a 5% APY interest rate, my monthly interest is 5% of my total money divided by 12. Does an 11 month CD work similarly?
Let me simplify this for you. Use this formula to calculate how much you get back:
Capital * (CD rate)/100 * (number of months)/12
For instance:
$1,000 at 5% for 12 months:
1000 * 5/100 * 12/12 = $50
$1,000 at 5% for 11 months:
1000 * 5/100 * 11/12 = $45.83
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries. Fidelity Fixed Income Page[fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond. Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries[fidelity.com]
Looking at the 3-month option, I see a few with a $5K minimum. Some say zero coupon, slightly different yield & fractional difference in price. How are you deciding which one to pick? Also, do the ones ABOVE 0% coupon but with higher yields offer any added benefit? Thank you.
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When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
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Edited: Sorry wrong comment about JEPI yield.
Generally I understand how 12 months work. If my bank has a 5% APY interest rate, my monthly interest is 5% of my total money divided by 12. Does an 11 month CD work similarly?
Generally I understand how 12 months work. If my bank has a 5% APY interest rate, my monthly interest is 5% of my total money divided by 12. Does an 11 month CD work similarly?
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He makes a valid point and his risk potential may be higher. 30+ years ago I walked into Prudential for a broker CD. The Prudential was pitching me to invest in stocks. I was a lot younger - all I could see was the safety and fixed interest rates. Now I have zero CD's - my investments are a lot more complicated and overall have done lot better than CD's. So don't just LOL just because you have your blinders on.
Only if you have accrued enough interest to offset the penalty. Lets say you start cd and less than month you change your mind and try to withdraw the penalty can eat into your principal. Glance over the read the terms and conditions.
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What happens if you don't redeem within 10 days?
I am trying to link to an external account but having system issues verifying my phone number. More than likely I will need to contact customer service to manually add an external bank account or perhaps open up their online savings account which appears to be free with no minimal balance requirement.
JEPI or any other mutual fund/ETF - the principal is not guaranteed; yield is not guaranteed. So if you put $1K in JEPI you might end up with $900 in a year later. You can also make fair bit - but it is an ETF - a basket of stocks with high dividends.
What JEPI does do is use covered calls/options to enhance return a bit - works better on down/sideway markets. But like any other stock-based ETF - it can lose money, it did lose money last year.
They have a CD via Sallemaye bank - that is 5% CD for 2 years. Better for those looking to lock in a rate for longer period.
I am trying to link to an external account but having system issues verifying my phone number. More than likely I will need to contact customer service to manually add an external bank account or perhaps open up their online savings account which appears to be free with no minimal balance requirement.
Generally I understand how 12 months work. If my bank has a 5% APY interest rate, my monthly interest is 5% of my total money divided by 12. Does an 11 month CD work similarly?
Let me simplify this for you. Use this formula to calculate how much you get back:
Capital * (CD rate)/100 * (number of months)/12
For instance:
$1,000 at 5% for 12 months:
1000 * 5/100 * 12/12 = $50
$1,000 at 5% for 11 months:
1000 * 5/100 * 11/12 = $45.83
$800 at 6% for 8 months:
800 * 6/100 * 8/12 = $32
Hope this helps!
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
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Only need to keep it there 60 days for the bonus, IF you can get it..