Monoprice Idyllwild Solid Spruce Top Steel String Acoustic Guitar w/ Bag & More
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Model: Idyllwild by Monoprice Solid Spruce Top Steel Acoustic Guitar with Accessories and Gig Bag
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I've never played any of Monoprice's acoustics, but this is a pretty crazy price for a solid spruce top. Their Indio electric guitars are fantastic for the price, but acoustics are a different animal. I'd grab one of these in a heartbeat, but I need another guitar like I need a hole in the head. If I were a newbie looking to learn, I'd grab one of these and have a luthier set it up. That way you'll get a great playing guitar from the start, and they'll tell you if there are any issues with the guitar incase you'd need to exchange.
It's not a decade ago, a sub $150 guitar by some brands can have consistently good to excellent action. My sample of 3 Donner $100 guitars all have the action below 6/64. With actually great intonation and no dead notes to speak of. Do the tuners feel great? no. But they are 18:1 and they certainly hold tune for days as long as the strings are fully stretched and stress relieved.
Really the side wood is snobbery, it's not vibrating, and the back is barely involved in sound production. That's the physics. It's like people debating alder vs basswood on an electric guitar body.
Any acoustic guitar that is playable, and sounds good and has good intonation shouldn't be treated like disposable trash. Any guitars glue will fail, solid wood top will crack with that sort of abuse. Even if its a 60 dollars the spruce and mahogany trees still had to be cut down.
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02-17-2023 at 10:16 AM.
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True, but considering the price and the solid spruce top I'd say that if you add the cost of a professional setup you'd be way ahead of the game.
At this price point, it's almost certainly not worth paying a professional to touch it. Lipstick on a pig, as they say.
I love cheap guitars, and own many. Including monoprice ones. But I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who doesn't know how to setup guitars. And not to a beginner.
I had a monoprice cutaway which was surprisingly decent and setup ok but I was lucky... its a gamble plus a return can cost you a restocking fee if I remember correctly.. plus you.can bet the wood will change id bet... but then again for 99 might be worth the gamble... ....
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02-17-2023 at 03:41 PM.
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Cheap guitars are probably not ideal for learning on because they will likely have trouble staying in tune and the action is going to be high (greater string distance from fretboard) which makes it harder to play as well.
It's not a decade ago, a sub $150 guitar by some brands can have consistently good to excellent action. My sample of 3 Donner $100 guitars all have the action below 6/64. With actually great intonation and no dead notes to speak of. Do the tuners feel great? no. But they are 18:1 and they certainly hold tune for days as long as the strings are fully stretched and stress relieved.
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There doesn't seem to be any information anywhere about what the back and sides are. Solid spruce is a nice addition in this range, but it's concerning there's no info on the rest of the guitar (other than the neck is okume).
Really the side wood is snobbery, it's not vibrating, and the back is barely involved in sound production. That's the physics. It's like people debating alder vs basswood on an electric guitar body.
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Ugh, even though I swear to myself to stop buying crap and only buy quality guitars from now on that sound good, I'm so tempted to get this and leave this in the trunk of my car.
Any acoustic guitar that is playable, and sounds good and has good intonation shouldn't be treated like disposable trash. Any guitars glue will fail, solid wood top will crack with that sort of abuse. Even if its a 60 dollars the spruce and mahogany trees still had to be cut down.
This guitar would be good if you expect to have it beaten up/not cared for. Other than that buyer beware for cheap guitars never know what you'll get and usually not in a good way lol.
For anyone just starting, I personally bought a more expensive guitar ($300-$400) as my first so that the investment would motivate me to play and made me care for the instrument more. But, everyone's different. Generally people don't care for their cheapo guitar, so you might end up not caring to play either.
That's my two cents, but anyways these guitars get so cheap its insane
This guitar would be good if you expect to have it beaten up/not cared for. Other than that buyer beware for cheap guitars never know what you'll get and usually not in a good way lol.
For anyone just starting, I personally bought a more expensive guitar ($300-$400) as my first so that the investment would motivate me to play and made me care for the instrument more. But, everyone's different. Generally people don't care for their cheapo guitar, so you might end up not caring to play either.
That's my two cents, but anyways these guitars get so cheap its insane
If you need an expensive guitar to enjoy playing, maybe you only like the idea of playing guitar.
So long as it's playable and sounds halfway decent (yes and yes, in this case) then go for it.
I would recommend this over the more expensive monoprice acoustic.
If you need an expensive guitar to enjoy playing, maybe you only like the idea of playing guitar.
So long as it's playable and sounds halfway decent (yes and yes, in this case) then go for it.
I would recommend this over the more expensive monoprice acoustic.
Some people understand the price of everything but the value of nothing.
A steel string guitar has about 170 lbs of tension pulling at it on all times and is just a hollow wood box with some bracing. That's just one reason you don't beat up on it, toss it around or leave it in a trunk.
At this price point, it's almost certainly not worth paying a professional to touch it. Lipstick on a pig, as they say.
I love cheap guitars, and own many. Including monoprice ones. But I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who doesn't know how to setup guitars. And not to a beginner.
Again you don't seem to understand the what you can possibly get in an inexpensive instrument in 2022-23. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wQCJz0JV_c This guy has a proper shoot out* with a $100 Donner, taylor baby gs and a small gibson. At 11:18 he says about the Donner "this plays the best, and then repeats it.
The idea that any playable, good sounding instrument should not be touched by a luthier, just because of it's low price is backwards. It's not like a cheap bike where the materials and design are bad. It's the same quality spruce, rosewood, mahogany okume, glue, fretwire as entry level from established brands.
If you don't get a good guitar (TBH quality control is probably spotty) then return it, but don't say it's not worth the normal attention that any instrument needs.
*Proper shootout, same expensive strings, same demo, same mic, same day.
Again you don't seem to understand the what you can possibly get in an inexpensive instrument in 2022-23. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wQCJz0JV_c This guy has a proper shoot out* with a $100 Donner, taylor baby gs and a small gibson. At 11:18 he says about the Donner "this plays the best, and then repeats it.
The idea that any playable, good sounding instrument should not be touched by a luthier, just because of it's low price is backwards. It's not like a cheap bike where the materials and design are bad. It's the same quality spruce, rosewood, mahogany okume, glue, fretwire as entry level from established brands.
If you don't get a good guitar (TBH quality control is probably spotty) then return it, but don't say it's not worth the normal attention that any instrument needs.
*Proper shootout, same expensive strings, same demo, same mic, same day.
I think I well understand how good some cheap guitars can be. And I also understand that wood is wood and fretwire is fretwire. It's all a matter of how well put together that particular pile of wood and metal is.
But, to me, the idea that a novice would buy this guitar with the plan to pay an American luthier to turn it into a good instrument is a bad idea.
If a moderately experienced palyer wants a cheap guitar, for any of a myriad of reasons, then they can knock themselves out with this $60 lottery ticket. I don't doubt that most would get $60 of enjoyment from it.
I think I well understand how good some cheap guitars can be. And I also understand that wood is wood and fretwire is fretwire. It's all a matter of how well put together that particular pile of wood and metal is.
But, to me, the idea that a novice would buy this guitar with the plan to pay an American luthier to turn it into a good instrument is a bad idea.
If a moderately experienced palyer wants a cheap guitar, for any of a myriad of reasons, then they can knock themselves out with this $60 lottery ticket. I don't doubt that most would get $60 of enjoyment from it.
I'm reminded of the generations of "audiophiles" that kept a few multimillion dollar snake oil cable companies afloat, because they were insistent in telling newbs that they should be spending 20-30% of their stereo budget on cables, and the more you spend on a system the more you need expensive cables.
When you can see someone shooting out a $100 Donner* (same idea as monoprice, TBH) guitar and declaring it plays better than a $2000 Gibson, maybe you should dismiss your idea that all cheap guitars start out as unplayable without a luthier. My cheap guitars exceed Taylors spec for action and the intonation is spot on from the factory setup.
Guitar is going to cost effort (and some money) for anyone. Whether it's the guitar teacher who you pay for lessons, or a friend, or luthier, or self taught it's nice for every guitar to have a basic setup for the utmost enjoyment and because wood settles and also, different climates, tunings and string choices.
*also you might say the Donner was just lucky but the other video referenced says his factory setup on this exact SGI41 Monoprice guitar is "excellent" and as a luthier considering materials, quality and the market he thinks the "true" price will end up as $200.
Yeah, I will always recommend an entry-level Yamaha acoustic.
I'm tempted to order this one out of morbid curiosity to see what it's like... but I don't think I will.
Even the lowest end Yamaha or Ibanez acoustics will never disappoint. They'll have resale value too.
I hope all these Indio listings are paid reach, because there's nothing "sick" about mass market guitars produced by non-guitar companies. They're DESIGNED to rip you off.
I hope all these Indio listings are paid reach, because there's nothing "sick" about mass market guitars produced by non-guitar companies. They're DESIGNED to rip you off.
Unless you are paying upwards of 3k-15k every guitar manufactured is a mass market guitar. These are better than fenders/epiphone/Ibanez entry level and not by a small amount. (Fretwork, solid spruce top resonance, factory setup) They are also much cheaper and come with a padded gig bag, tuner strap etc..
Even the lowest end Yamaha or Ibanez acoustics will never disappoint. They'll have resale value too.
Yes those are nice picks; but the retained resale value will only retain about $60 less and this decent Spruce toppers costs new; about what those lose, off the lot. LOL. AKA; as you leave the store with one. And the kicker is; these $60 guitars can sell used for about $200! Yes about $140 gain; not loss.
And another thing; most people get one of these, needing nothing. Decent setup and playable. After good strings are properly stretched in, of course. So when we say it pays to setup your own guitar; that doesn't mean you will get one thrown together with little setup. But guess what? With ANY online guitar and for ANY EXPENSIVE price point then you just might get one needing setup completely. So what? Except I understand; you would think, if you're paying $100's or even $1000's then a pristine setup would go without saying. Or you might falsely assume the $60 guitars get nothing and maybe that's why they are cheap. Well many sellers do not say and almost all online guitars will need something. Minor as it may be. It's really not a big deal; if you can read and watch some video's.
Just don't go typing on 'about the mouth' about how you're sure the $60 guitars are the ones needing a lot; because it looks like it's just the opposite, IRONICALLY! Yes it's the $60 guitars arriving setup, well enough; perhaps to prove their point and reputation. So we who bought them say so. I have no idea what you will receive or if it gets run over by a truck and then laid at your door in pieces. But mine was great and Monoprice will let you return it for *any* reason (within 30 days); so what's your problem? But you'd actually make money selling it if you hated it. Sometimes you just have to recognize a deal people, or don't.
And anyway; there are some personal preferences and playing styles; that you may want to set your guitar up, to match. DIY setup works very well for guitars. If you have never fixed anything in your life then ask a friend to help you.
Us happy, low cost guitar buyers are just trying to tell you; if you are never going to fix anything on your guitar the go pay a shop. You will pay more for your guitar and even more for custom setup. And then you will pay over and over again, as needed. All because you don't want to make a mistake while working on your overpriced guitar. Then, see $60 guitars. Problem solved. Rather than fussing about your guitar costing more, just buy one of these.
Heck we're all luthiers now! LOL. And you know what? It's fun as it can be. You probably will not need to setup your Monoprice guitar; YET. Just like any guitar.
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Really the side wood is snobbery, it's not vibrating, and the back is barely involved in sound production. That's the physics. It's like people debating alder vs basswood on an electric guitar body.
Any acoustic guitar that is playable, and sounds good and has good intonation shouldn't be treated like disposable trash. Any guitars glue will fail, solid wood top will crack with that sort of abuse. Even if its a 60 dollars the spruce and mahogany trees still had to be cut down.
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I love cheap guitars, and own many. Including monoprice ones. But I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who doesn't know how to setup guitars. And not to a beginner.
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For anyone just starting, I personally bought a more expensive guitar ($300-$400) as my first so that the investment would motivate me to play and made me care for the instrument more. But, everyone's different. Generally people don't care for their cheapo guitar, so you might end up not caring to play either.
That's my two cents, but anyways these guitars get so cheap its insane
For anyone just starting, I personally bought a more expensive guitar ($300-$400) as my first so that the investment would motivate me to play and made me care for the instrument more. But, everyone's different. Generally people don't care for their cheapo guitar, so you might end up not caring to play either.
That's my two cents, but anyways these guitars get so cheap its insane
If you need an expensive guitar to enjoy playing, maybe you only like the idea of playing guitar.
So long as it's playable and sounds halfway decent (yes and yes, in this case) then go for it.
I would recommend this over the more expensive monoprice acoustic.
So long as it's playable and sounds halfway decent (yes and yes, in this case) then go for it.
I would recommend this over the more expensive monoprice acoustic.
A steel string guitar has about 170 lbs of tension pulling at it on all times and is just a hollow wood box with some bracing. That's just one reason you don't beat up on it, toss it around or leave it in a trunk.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrbUVqN
I love cheap guitars, and own many. Including monoprice ones. But I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who doesn't know how to setup guitars. And not to a beginner.
The idea that any playable, good sounding instrument should not be touched by a luthier, just because of it's low price is backwards. It's not like a cheap bike where the materials and design are bad. It's the same quality spruce, rosewood, mahogany okume, glue, fretwire as entry level from established brands.
If you don't get a good guitar (TBH quality control is probably spotty) then return it, but don't say it's not worth the normal attention that any instrument needs.
*Proper shootout, same expensive strings, same demo, same mic, same day.
The idea that any playable, good sounding instrument should not be touched by a luthier, just because of it's low price is backwards. It's not like a cheap bike where the materials and design are bad. It's the same quality spruce, rosewood, mahogany okume, glue, fretwire as entry level from established brands.
If you don't get a good guitar (TBH quality control is probably spotty) then return it, but don't say it's not worth the normal attention that any instrument needs.
*Proper shootout, same expensive strings, same demo, same mic, same day.
But, to me, the idea that a novice would buy this guitar with the plan to pay an American luthier to turn it into a good instrument is a bad idea.
If a moderately experienced palyer wants a cheap guitar, for any of a myriad of reasons, then they can knock themselves out with this $60 lottery ticket. I don't doubt that most would get $60 of enjoyment from it.
But, to me, the idea that a novice would buy this guitar with the plan to pay an American luthier to turn it into a good instrument is a bad idea.
If a moderately experienced palyer wants a cheap guitar, for any of a myriad of reasons, then they can knock themselves out with this $60 lottery ticket. I don't doubt that most would get $60 of enjoyment from it.
When you can see someone shooting out a $100 Donner* (same idea as monoprice, TBH) guitar and declaring it plays better than a $2000 Gibson, maybe you should dismiss your idea that all cheap guitars start out as unplayable without a luthier. My cheap guitars exceed Taylors spec for action and the intonation is spot on from the factory setup.
Guitar is going to cost effort (and some money) for anyone. Whether it's the guitar teacher who you pay for lessons, or a friend, or luthier, or self taught it's nice for every guitar to have a basic setup for the utmost enjoyment and because wood settles and also, different climates, tunings and string choices.
*also you might say the Donner was just lucky but the other video referenced says his factory setup on this exact SGI41 Monoprice guitar is "excellent" and as a luthier considering materials, quality and the market he thinks the "true" price will end up as $200.
I'm tempted to order this one out of morbid curiosity to see what it's like... but I don't think I will.
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And another thing; most people get one of these, needing nothing. Decent setup and playable. After good strings are properly stretched in, of course. So when we say it pays to setup your own guitar; that doesn't mean you will get one thrown together with little setup. But guess what? With ANY online guitar and for ANY EXPENSIVE price point then you just might get one needing setup completely. So what? Except I understand; you would think, if you're paying $100's or even $1000's then a pristine setup would go without saying. Or you might falsely assume the $60 guitars get nothing and maybe that's why they are cheap. Well many sellers do not say and almost all online guitars will need something. Minor as it may be. It's really not a big deal; if you can read and watch some video's.
Just don't go typing on 'about the mouth' about how you're sure the $60 guitars are the ones needing a lot; because it looks like it's just the opposite, IRONICALLY! Yes it's the $60 guitars arriving setup, well enough; perhaps to prove their point and reputation. So we who bought them say so. I have no idea what you will receive or if it gets run over by a truck and then laid at your door in pieces. But mine was great and Monoprice will let you return it for *any* reason (within 30 days); so what's your problem? But you'd actually make money selling it if you hated it. Sometimes you just have to recognize a deal people, or don't.
And anyway; there are some personal preferences and playing styles; that you may want to set your guitar up, to match. DIY setup works very well for guitars. If you have never fixed anything in your life then ask a friend to help you.
Us happy, low cost guitar buyers are just trying to tell you; if you are never going to fix anything on your guitar the go pay a shop. You will pay more for your guitar and even more for custom setup. And then you will pay over and over again, as needed. All because you don't want to make a mistake while working on your overpriced guitar. Then, see $60 guitars. Problem solved. Rather than fussing about your guitar costing more, just buy one of these.
Heck we're all luthiers now! LOL. And you know what? It's fun as it can be. You probably will not need to setup your Monoprice guitar; YET. Just like any guitar.
https://luth.org/ LOL