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expiredheliosnine posted Mar 07, 2023 03:21 PM
expiredheliosnine posted Mar 07, 2023 03:21 PM

Micro Center monitor deals: $79.99 Acer 24" monitor, $99.99 Samsung 27" monitor

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Acer EK240Y 23.8" Full HD (1920 x 1080) 75Hz LED Monitor

https://www.microcenter.com/produ...sku=418111

AMD FreeSync
HDMI VGA
Flicker Free
Blue Light Filter

Delve into the world of awesome with Acer's EK240Y Full HD monitor, which offers an unmatched viewing experience. A large 23.8 screen delivers astonishing, 1920 x 1080 Full HD resolution with excellent detail! Through AMD FreeSync technology, the games frame rate is determined by your graphics card, not the fixed refresh rate of the monitor, giving you a serious competitive edge. The remarkable 100 Million:1 contrast ratio ensures a crystal-clear viewing experience while a rapid 5ms response time keeps moving images sharp. It also supports HDMI & VGA inputs offering greater compatibility.

Samsung F27T450FQ 27" Full HD (1920 x 1080) 75Hz LED Monitor

https://www.microcenter.com/produ...sku=547596

AMD Freesync
HDMI DisplayPort
Eye Saver Mode
3-Sided Frameless

The Samsung FT45 Series provides ergonomic features that enhance both all-day comfort and productivity. A fully adjustable stand puts the impressive picture right where you need it, and Eye Saver mode and Flicker Free technology help to relieve eye strain and fatigue. Versatile connectivity simplifies things, with HDMI, DisplayPort and a USB hub. Energy-saving features help to reduce power consumption by up to 10% for a cost-effective desktop monitor solution. Impressive picture quality with vibrant color reproduction and crystal-clear images and text without color shift Virtually seamless multiple monitor configurations thanks to ultra-slim bezels Eco Saving Plus technology helps to reduce power consumption while still maintaining picture quality Assembled in Mexico

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Acer EK240Y 23.8" Full HD (1920 x 1080) 75Hz LED Monitor

https://www.microcenter.com/produ...sku=418111

AMD FreeSync
HDMI VGA
Flicker Free
Blue Light Filter

Delve into the world of awesome with Acer's EK240Y Full HD monitor, which offers an unmatched viewing experience. A large 23.8 screen delivers astonishing, 1920 x 1080 Full HD resolution with excellent detail! Through AMD FreeSync technology, the games frame rate is determined by your graphics card, not the fixed refresh rate of the monitor, giving you a serious competitive edge. The remarkable 100 Million:1 contrast ratio ensures a crystal-clear viewing experience while a rapid 5ms response time keeps moving images sharp. It also supports HDMI & VGA inputs offering greater compatibility.

Samsung F27T450FQ 27" Full HD (1920 x 1080) 75Hz LED Monitor

https://www.microcenter.com/produ...sku=547596

AMD Freesync
HDMI DisplayPort
Eye Saver Mode
3-Sided Frameless

The Samsung FT45 Series provides ergonomic features that enhance both all-day comfort and productivity. A fully adjustable stand puts the impressive picture right where you need it, and Eye Saver mode and Flicker Free technology help to relieve eye strain and fatigue. Versatile connectivity simplifies things, with HDMI, DisplayPort and a USB hub. Energy-saving features help to reduce power consumption by up to 10% for a cost-effective desktop monitor solution. Impressive picture quality with vibrant color reproduction and crystal-clear images and text without color shift Virtually seamless multiple monitor configurations thanks to ultra-slim bezels Eco Saving Plus technology helps to reduce power consumption while still maintaining picture quality Assembled in Mexico

The price for the Samsung monitor shows up as $149.99 on the webpage, but after adding to your cart, view the cart, it will have changed price to $99.99 in cart.

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Mar 07, 2023 04:29 PM
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aznnp77Mar 07, 2023 04:29 PM
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Thinking about upgrading my 10-12 year old 24" LCD monitor to something more modern, but I don't really see a reason to for general web browsing use.

I wouldn't go higher than 1080p cuz it's not necessary. Any other reason to upgrade other than to have something more modern?
Mar 07, 2023 04:51 PM
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michaelprochMar 07, 2023 04:51 PM
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Quote from aznnp77 :
Thinking about upgrading my 10-12 year old 24" LCD monitor to something more modern, but I don't really see a reason to for general web browsing use.

I wouldn't go higher than 1080p cuz it's not necessary. Any other reason to upgrade other than to have something more modern?
If it works for you then why upgrade? I think 24inch is great for 1080p and if you have no need for higher resolution, save your bucks.

I am sure you can get higher refresh, better panel, smaller bezels, but it doesn't seem like you need any of it.
Mar 07, 2023 06:56 PM
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aznnp77Mar 07, 2023 06:56 PM
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Quote from michaelproch :
If it works for you then why upgrade? I think 24inch is great for 1080p and if you have no need for higher resolution, save your bucks.

I am sure you can get higher refresh, better panel, smaller bezels, but it doesn't seem like you need any of it.
Smaller Bezel would be kinda nice, but I don't really care.

Just wondering if the visuals would noticeably pop more if I went with a lower line 24" such as something like this.

I did google whether LCDs get dimmer after thousands of hours of use. Read conflicting information about that.
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jclu52Mar 07, 2023 11:43 PM
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Samsung F27T450FQ 27" FHD (1920x1080) 75Hz LED Monitor $99.99 @MicroCenter
  • AMD Freesync
  • HDMI, 65Hz
  • DisplayPort, 75Hz
  • Eye Saver Mode
  • 3-Sided Framelss
https://www.microcenter.com/produ...sku=547596

Stand Adjustments: Height, Pivot, Tilt, Swivel
Contents: 1 x Monitor, 1 x Stand, 1 x Power Cable, 1 x HDMI Cable, Documentation
Mar 09, 2023 01:16 AM
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peccadilloMar 09, 2023 01:16 AM
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Quote from aznnp77 :
Thinking about upgrading my 10-12 year old 24" LCD monitor to something more modern, but I don't really see a reason to for general web browsing use.

I wouldn't go higher than 1080p cuz it's not necessary. Any other reason to upgrade other than to have something more modern?
I got a used Acer 1080p from ebay for about 40$ to match my existing monitor.. you could go that route... they are usually off lease office equipment and monitors last a long time.
Mar 09, 2023 05:55 AM
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The_Love_SpudMar 09, 2023 05:55 AM
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Quote from aznnp77 :
Smaller Bezel would be kinda nice, but I don't really care.

Just wondering if the visuals would noticeably pop more if I went with a lower line 24" such as something like this.

I did google whether LCDs get dimmer after thousands of hours of use. Read conflicting information about that.
Have you considered identifying the specifications of your current monitor for comparison. As with PCs themselves, there are potentially new monitors which could be a downgrade from your current setup. If you are indeed trying to determine whether the screen would be a reasonable improvement a good start would be making an apples to apples comparison of basic specifications (brightness and refresh rate, in addition to panel type, are some solid markers to compare).

Your panel is only likely to have dimmed measurably from the original ratings if it utilizes a CCFL backlight (cold cathode fluorescent lamp, the common predecessor to LED backlights). Of course, for such a monitor the original rated brightness might not have been very high... but also consider that the rated brightness for the monitors in these deals is pretty basic at 200-250 nits. Could such a basic new monitor be brighter than an old workhorse? Possibly.

But if you're truly seeking something to "pop" relative to your current solution consider shopping for the basic metrics and also consider what your PC is able to support (e.g. - if your current monitor is limited to 60Hz but your PC is unable to support a 75Hz or higher refresh rate, how could you really experience an improvement in that area?).

Good luck!
Jon
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aznnp77Mar 09, 2023 02:10 PM
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Quote from peccadillo :
I got a used Acer 1080p from ebay for about 40$ to match my existing monitor.. you could go that route... they are usually off lease office equipment and monitors last a long time.
Yeah, I've gotten a couple of used monitors for friends before. They usually can be had from anywhere between 20 and 50 dollars depending on age. I wasn't really trying to get one with the proprietary power cord, but I guess it's required these days because of the thin bezels.

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Mar 09, 2023 02:15 PM
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aznnp77Mar 09, 2023 02:15 PM
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Quote from The_Love_Spud :
Have you considered identifying the specifications of your current monitor for comparison. As with PCs themselves, there are potentially new monitors which could be a downgrade from your current setup. If you are indeed trying to determine whether the screen would be a reasonable improvement a good start would be making an apples to apples comparison of basic specifications (brightness and refresh rate, in addition to panel type, are some solid markers to compare).

Your panel is only likely to have dimmed measurably from the original ratings if it utilizes a CCFL backlight (cold cathode fluorescent lamp, the common predecessor to LED backlights). Of course, for such a monitor the original rated brightness might not have been very high... but also consider that the rated brightness for the monitors in these deals is pretty basic at 200-250 nits. Could such a basic new monitor be brighter than an old workhorse? Possibly.

But if you're truly seeking something to "pop" relative to your current solution consider shopping for the basic metrics and also consider what your PC is able to support (e.g. - if your current monitor is limited to 60Hz but your PC is unable to support a 75Hz or higher refresh rate, how could you really experience an improvement in that area?).

Good luck!

Jon
Well I did mention that it was a Samsung LCD from like 10-12 years ago. I figure with people that follow deals and technology like this site does, people would get the gyst. Without even looking at the specs, it's just your standard old widescreen 24" 1080p resolution with the boxy square frame. Refresh rate is probably between 6 and 9 ms like most monitors were back then.

I believe it's this one.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/820852-REG/Samsung_E2420L_SyncMaster_E2420L_24_Business.html/... [bhphotovideo.com]
Mar 09, 2023 03:54 PM
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cnmcMar 09, 2023 03:54 PM
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Between the 2 I'd suggest buying the 27" only if you are gaming on a budget. 1080p on 27" really sucks for text and multitasking. But if you are gaming then most of the time you perhaps wouldn't notice the huge pixels, and 1080p is less taxing on your GPU than 1440p.

If you intend to use your monitor with Macs, the 24" would be your only choice here. Apple Silicon produces really blurry text on 27" 1440p... Shame on them
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ThriftyIdea6692Mar 10, 2023 04:09 AM
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I'm still chucking at the fact that some marketing chump had the gall to describe a postage stamp sized 1080p monitor in 2023 as an "unmatched viewing experience". I'm pretty sure I can match that. Big Grin
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The_Love_SpudMar 10, 2023 04:33 AM
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Quote from aznnp77 :
Well I did mention that it was a Samsung LCD from like 10-12 years ago. I figure with people that follow deals and technology like this site does, people would get the gyst. Without even looking at the specs, it's just your standard old widescreen 24" 1080p resolution with the boxy square frame. Refresh rate is probably between 6 and 9 ms like most monitors were back then.

I believe it's this one.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/820852-REG/Samsung_E2420L_SyncMaster_E2420L_24_Business.html/... [bhphotovideo.com]
So the model to which you linked was indeed a CCFL model rated for 300 nits and supporting a maximum refresh rate at 1080p of 60Hz. It would be completely reasonable to imagine a scenario in which the older monitor's backlight could have seen enough use to have faded at or below the 200-250 nits ratings [consumerreports.org] of the monitors in this deal.

At the same time, the best way to ensure that you're transitioning to a monitor that pops is to focus upon a monitor with an even higher brightness rating (400 for example), a good coverage of the color space (99% or greater is still reasonably priced for IPS) and a refresh rate of 75 Hz or above. Fortunately checking off those boxes isn't too far beyond the prices in this deal, with a 24.5" Dell option in another thread at $150. Comparably specified options are available at Micro Center for only slightly higher prices.

Note that the reason to jump to a higher brightness tier in part has to do with how our eyes perceive brightness on a logarithmic scale. As such, if we accepted that your monitor is outputting a maximum around 200 nits, half as much as a 400 nits model, your eyes would actually perceive the older model as only being around 70% the brightness of the 400 nits model - the square root of 50% being around 70%. In fact, your 200 nits monitor would (at maximum) appear half as bright as a model rated for an otherwise impressive 800 nits.

However, no need to worry completely about maximizing brightness since one of the bigger factors the human eye tends to separate well is color space. However, just don't be fooled by mathematical gaming of color space ratings. 99% and above assures a wide coverage of the color gamut. Even 95% is achievable by some otherwise unimpressive panels, so look for numbers at or above that 99% rating to truly identify models which your eye might clearly pick out for their color rendering.

And lastly, much of this depends upon a reasonably modern and supported video card. Improved color management is increasingly being integrated into the experience of modern, supported graphics subsystems [arstechnica.com]. At the same time, to this daya poor cable connection choice can drive your PC to opt into objectively terrible/worst case color rendering options just to ensure that your PC and monitor communicate [pcmonitors.info].

Objectively there is every reason to believe that one look at such a newer model would indeed may your old standby look broken by comparison. However, without specifically shopping for those options (brightness, color space, refresh rate) you do risk something as good or marginally better than your current solution, but perhaps not in a way that would help you mentally justify the price.

Good luck!
Jon
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Mar 14, 2023 12:59 PM
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aznnp77Mar 14, 2023 12:59 PM
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Quote from The_Love_Spud :
So the model to which you linked was indeed a CCFL model rated for 300 nits and supporting a maximum refresh rate at 1080p of 60Hz. It would be completely reasonable to imagine a scenario in which the older monitor's backlight could have seen enough use to have faded at or below the 200-250 nits ratings [consumerreports.org] of the monitors in this deal.

At the same time, the best way to ensure that you're transitioning to a monitor that pops is to focus upon a monitor with an even higher brightness rating (400 for example), a good coverage of the color space (99% or greater is still reasonably priced for IPS) and a refresh rate of 75 Hz or above. Fortunately checking off those boxes isn't too far beyond the prices in this deal, with a 24.5" Dell option in another thread at $150. Comparably specified options are available at Micro Center for only slightly higher prices.

Note that the reason to jump to a higher brightness tier in part has to do with how our eyes perceive brightness on a logarithmic scale. As such, if we accepted that your monitor is outputting a maximum around 200 nits, half as much as a 400 nits model, your eyes would actually perceive the older model as only being around 70% the brightness of the 400 nits model - the square root of 50% being around 70%. In fact, your 200 nits monitor would (at maximum) appear half as bright as a model rated for an otherwise impressive 800 nits.

However, no need to worry completely about maximizing brightness since one of the bigger factors the human eye tends to separate well is color space. However, just don't be fooled by mathematical gaming of color space ratings. 99% and above assures a wide coverage of the color gamut. Even 95% is achievable by some otherwise unimpressive panels, so look for numbers at or above that 99% rating to truly identify models which your eye might clearly pick out for their color rendering.

And lastly, much of this depends upon a reasonably modern and supported video card. Improved color management is increasingly being integrated into the experience of modern, supported graphics subsystems [arstechnica.com]. At the same time, to this daya poor cable connection choice can drive your PC to opt into objectively terrible/worst case color ... [pcmonitors.info].

Objectively there is every reason to believe that one look at such a newer model would indeed may your old standby look broken by comparison. However, without specifically shopping for those options (brightness, color space, refresh rate) you do risk something as good or marginally better than your current solution, but perhaps not in a way that would help you mentally justify the price.

Good luck!
Jon
Thanks for the post, but personally, I don't see myself paying more than $100 for a monitor again. Seeing as though you have been able to get a 24" for under $100 for at least 7-8 years at this point.

I'll look into the used market I suppose.
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iNICK20Mar 14, 2023 01:20 PM
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Quote from aznnp77 :
Thanks for the post, but personally, I don't see myself paying more than $100 for a monitor again. Seeing as though you have been able to get a 24" for under $100 for at least 7-8 years at this point.

I'll look into the used market I suppose.
Keep checking Amazon Warehouse Deals for used monitors. I recently got this 4k 27in LG monitor for $86. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...8&psc=1​
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aznnp77Mar 14, 2023 01:27 PM
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Quote from iNICK20 :
Keep checking Amazon Warehouse Deals for used monitors. I recently got this 4k 27in LG monitor for $86. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...8&psc=1​
Thanks for the tip. However, I'm very suspicious of any product that has under 4 stars out of 5 on reviews. If your item just works, it has a baseline of 4, so in order to get in the 3s you've gotta have a lot of unhappy buyers that have had issues.

30% of the reviews for that monitor are 1 star. And LGs tend to have high stands. I'm looking for a monitor that doesn't go up more than 2-3 inches if it's not adjustible.

I usually stick with Dell or Samsung, but I've had Acer in the past and have had no complaints.
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Mar 14, 2023 01:29 PM
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iNICK20Mar 14, 2023 01:29 PM
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Quote from aznnp77 :
Thanks for the tip. However, I'm very suspicious of any product that has under 4 stars out of 5 on reviews. If your item just works, it has a baseline of 4, so in order to get in the 3s you've gotta have a lot of unhappy buyers that have had issues.

30% of the reviews for that monitor are 1 star. And LGs tend to have high stands. I'm looking for a monitor that doesn't go up more than 2-3 inches if it's not adjustible.

I usually stick with Dell or Samsung, but I've had Acer in the past and have had no complaints.
I usually stick with Dell or Samsung as well. But LG Monitors are solid too including ASUS. Anything else? I don't buy unless the price is good enough. But even at Amazon crazy MSRP of $400, this LG I got for $86 was a steal. You can't get any decent newer 4k monitors under $100 anywhere.

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