Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator Expired

A couple of thoughts:

Power: when it comes to generator use case, sometimes less is more. When you are stuck at home during extended outage, it is initially nice to have a large power output, and everything works, and no comfort is sacrificed. But then you start running out of gas. You don't want to run out of gas. Large generator means large idle consumption, so even when you turn off all the unnecessary loads, you still use a lot of gas. This is the point when you start thinking: "perhaps if I had a smaller generator, I would have not ran out so fast"

Inverter: non-inverter power source is not good for two reasons: 1) you can damage motors and electronics, and that will happen at the moment of an outage, e.g.: when you absolutely don't want to damage your motors and electronics. I had a generator using which my computers won;t work, because UPS units would not recognize it as a good power source and immediately switch to batteries. 2) non-inverter generators must always operate at RPM corresponding to 60Hz. That means that at idle they would have to work harder than they must. You waste a lot of gas compared to inverter generators, especially at low loads, and that happens at exactly the time when you don't want to waste gas.

Tri-fuel: that is certainly the way to go. Gasoline goes stale very fast because they poison it with ethanol these days. Clear gas cost an arm and a foot per gallon. At any rate it lasts perhaps a year, perhaps two, then you must use it off. Natural gas/LP has distinct advantage that you can store it for decades. LP is not ideal, unless you live on the farm and have a large LP tank, the BBQ gas tanks will run out very fast. Best way to operate generator is some combination of gasoline, followed by quick-connect to natural gas.

Also, tri-fuel: factory tri-fuel generators are overpriced. Best way to go is buy a gasoline generator and install snorkel kit to effectively convert it to tri-fuel. I have not seen generators on the market which are both tri-fuel and inverter (perhaps I was not looking hard). For myself, I chose to get an inverter generator and make it tri-fuel. This way I get all benefits of inverter and also have an option to switch to nat gas source

Wooden stove is being ban, natural gas is being ban, gasoline is being ban, and your washing machine is on the chopping block too.

This generator is using all the fuel source that is being ban right now by the government. Is my statement true?

No, your statement is not true. I'm pretty sure they're not going to ban natural gas anytime soon. Besides the fact that a good portion of the country heats their homes with it, the country produces somewhere around 38% of its electricity with it. My utility ran new gas lines in an 80+ year old neighborhood two years ago, pretty sure they're confident in getting a return on that investment. As for gasoline, the automobile market is turning toward electrification, this is true. What's not true is gasoline being banned. Besides the installed base of ICE cars that will last for at least two more decades; boats, snowmobiles, lawn equipment, propeller aircraft, etc., etc. all still have an installed base that require gasoline for the foreseeable future. As far as I can tell, you can't run this generator on wood and the washing machine remark is kinda outta left field. Finally, you didn't mention propane, so I will, also not going anywhere anytime soon, with its installed base of forklifts, construction equipment, rural home heat, bbq grills, portable heaters and on and on. Do continue to live scared of minor, incremental progress in the world's fuel use though.

I've been looking for a tri fuel inverter generator for a long time (that had 240v 30a output)
I specifically want the ability to run off natural gas.. I've seen videos of people converting dual fuel inverters to run on natural gas, but I don't get why a company can't simply sell me one that does it so I don't need to fiddle with it myself.

How is that a weakness...it's an 8000W generator, you can't get 50A from an 8000 running watts generator at 220V...basically Ohms law. You would need an 11000 running watts generator to get 50A.

The original statement which is exaggerated does contain some truth. We are all frogs in the slowing boiling pot... Some states and cities are moving more aggressively to reduce the use / install of natural gas for stoves, heat. Also coming is the banning the sale of non EV cars, diesel trucks more regulations The manufacturers are already testing a more water "efficient" washing machine, which actually does not get your clothes clean. The latest changes to the wood stoves to make them "efficient" do very little and add %20 to the cost. OR, CA, MD and NY are leading with more "progressive" states mulling laws as well.

The main panel at your house is either a 100amp or a 200amp breaker more than likely. When you do this back feed you will either feed into a 30amp or a 50amp breaker. I guess you could feed into a 120volt receptacle on maybe a 15amp to 20amp breaker but only roughly half of you receptacles in your home would work as only one side of your breaker panel would be powered...unless you use a double pole breaker...and don't think they make a 20amp double pole but I could be wrong. If you are planning to back feed you have to be careful and turn off the main breaker panel that feeds your house. If you aren't sure what you are doing this is not a good practice.

1. Is that unit a good fit for me? (enough power, etc?)

2. Can I get it connected to my supply line that my propane tank underground connects to?

3. I read something about dirty power at THD<20% and that some high efficiency furnace control boards require less than 5% THD - is this something I should be concerned about?

4. Would I just need an electrician to add a outlet plug from my home?

Making up statements and presenting them as fact isn't doing you any favors. Front load washing machines clean just as well and are not as destructive to clothing as a top load washing machine and they use a third of the water.

You all need to get over this ignorance and move on with the times. Also natural has stoves are the least efficient form of cooking and the vast majority of people don't have their kitchen's ventilated properly to use gas in the first place which is dangerous. Induction is amazing and is the future. Gas cooking is a complete waste of money except for a few particular types of cooking.

Gasoline has the most energy density followed by LPG with NG in last. You simply can't get enough fuel into the cylinder with LPG or NG to make as much power as you can with gasoline.

Wooden stove is being ban, natural gas is being ban, gasoline is being ban, and your washing machine is on the chopping block too.

This generator is using all the fuel source that is being ban right now by the government. Is my statement true?

I have a 6500 /8125 watt generac and have no issues running my gas furnace and mini split plus other appliances off the 30a on the generator