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Amazon has Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator (100416) for $1061.65. Shipping is free.

Walmart also has Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator (100416) for $1061.65. Shipping is free.

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Product Features:
  • Operates on natural gas, propane, or gasoline, plus natural gas and propane hoses are included
  • Power up the 459 cc champion engine with the handy rocker switch, battery included
  • Track voltage, frequency, session run time, and total run time to monitor output and track maintenance intervals, plus a multi-colored LED indicates CO shutoff or fault
  • Gasoline: 10,000 starting watts and 8000 running watts, propane: 9000 starting watts and 7200 running watts, natural gas: 8750 starting watts and 7000 running watts and engine oil is included

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Amazon [amazon.com] and Walmart [walmart.com] have Champion 10,000/8,000-Watt TRI Fuel Portable Natural Gas Generator (100416) for $1061.65. Shipping is free.

Note, this offer is slightly lower than a Frontpage deal from March of 2022.

Product Features:
  • Operates on natural gas, propane, or gasoline, plus natural gas and propane hoses are included
  • Power up the 459 cc champion engine with the handy rocker switch, battery included
  • Track voltage, frequency, session run time, and total run time to monitor output and track maintenance intervals, plus a multi-colored LED indicates CO shutoff or fault
  • Gasoline: 10,000 starting watts and 8000 running watts, propane: 9000 starting watts and 7200 running watts, natural gas: 8750 starting watts and 7000 running watts and engine oil is included
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Model: Champion 100416 Tri Fuel Generator

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Wow, edgy comment.
No, your statement is not true. I'm pretty sure they're not going to ban natural gas anytime soon. Besides the fact that a good portion of the country heats their homes with it, the country produces somewhere around 38% of its electricity with it. My utility ran new gas lines in an 80+ year old neighborhood two years ago, pretty sure they're confident in getting a return on that investment. As for gasoline, the automobile market is turning toward electrification, this is true. What's not true is gasoline being banned. Besides the installed base of ICE cars that will last for at least two more decades; boats, snowmobiles, lawn equipment, propeller aircraft, etc., etc. all still have an installed base that require gasoline for the foreseeable future. As far as I can tell, you can't run this generator on wood and the washing machine remark is kinda outta left field. Finally, you didn't mention propane, so I will, also not going anywhere anytime soon, with its installed base of forklifts, construction equipment, rural home heat, bbq grills, portable heaters and on and on. Do continue to live scared of minor, incremental progress in the world's fuel use though.
How is that a weakness...it's an 8000W generator, you can't get 50A from an 8000 running watts generator at 220V...basically Ohms law. You would need an 11000 running watts generator to get 50A.

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03-17-2023 at 08:05 AM.

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03-17-2023 at 08:05 AM.
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I thought the soft start was a starting capacitor, no? Thank you for the insight btw, very informative.
You are referring to a hard start which actually draws even more amps (albeit in a shorter amount of time) to get the motor going. This is a cheap hack for when you have an old motor that has trouble starting (on utility power) but not good for a generator as it will likely trip the breaker/protection on the generator.

Soft start does some magic with a control board and varying when everything comes on. It can reduce the inrush current by half which is generally enough to get you going on a portable generator. They are popular in like RV/boating community and I think certain commercial uses.

My HVAC installer had no idea what it was but I had the instructions printed out for him and they are aware of what all the connections are. Just need to mount it and connect with the proper crimps and plugs. He was skeptical but only charged me a trip charge and I have my 3 ton unit running on a 7000W running 30A generator w/ 30A inlet+interlock.
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03-17-2023 at 08:27 AM.
03-17-2023 at 08:27 AM.
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How can I use 2 of the things together?
theradiantchildWow, edgy comment.
There's no practical way to do that. Some Inverter generators can be combined, but not this one.
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MaroonPocket778
03-17-2023 at 08:46 AM.
03-17-2023 at 08:46 AM.
Quote from lionheartssj :
If you want to run your HVAC, you'll need 50amps at least.

50 amp is better for sure. But I do run a 5ton with a soft start kit on a 7000/9000 genny on a 30amp plug
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03-17-2023 at 08:56 AM.
03-17-2023 at 08:56 AM.
Quote from MaroonPocket778 :
50 amp is better for sure. But I do run a 5ton with a soft start kit on a 7000/9000 genny on a 30amp plug
Wasn't even aware of soft start kits, probably b/c my setup is oversized, but I may get one now just in case.
How does the 30amp keep up with auxiliary heat strips, should you need them?
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03-17-2023 at 10:58 AM.
03-17-2023 at 10:58 AM.
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Technically, momentarily, on gasoline, you can draw just over 40 amps on this generator, and over 30 amps running. Practically, it's a convenience item since larger generators like this one are often used to power larger RVs that have 50 amp inlets. It may be a factor if you intend to run this as a whole house generator for similar reasons. I don't understand why these manufacturers would produce a product that has the running capacity to overpower its primary output.
Most people assume that a circuit breaker is designed to trip at the rated current, but this simply isn't true. They are designed to "carry the load". In other words they will allow the rated current theoretically indefinitely. I know that sound wrong, but they are carefully designed to protect the appropriate wire sizes for their rating. Here is a link to a SquareD QO trip curve: https://www.se.com/us/en/download/document/730-3 [se.com]/
The 1 on the bottom (X) axis refers to 1X the rated current. So for a 30A breaker this would be 30A. You can see from the time in seconds on the vertical (Y) axis that 1 x 30A will potentially take forever to trip. At 2X the rated current a QO breaker will trip between 8 and 30 seconds. This is enough time to allow the inrush or peak power through and not trip the breaker. The max running output of this generator is 8000W/240V = 33.3A.
So in the end a 50A output might give you slightly more power, but practically it won't matter. And a 50A power cord is more expensive and heavier, so I say it wouldn't be worth it.

As far as an RV goes, most people who have a 50A RV will have a 50 to 30A adapter because many RV parks don't have 50A outlets at every site.
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03-17-2023 at 11:03 AM.
03-17-2023 at 11:03 AM.
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Wasn't even aware of soft start kits, probably b/c my setup is oversized, but I may get one now just in case.
How does the 30amp keep up with auxiliary heat strips, should you need them?
It won't. Most aux heat strips start at 10kw - 42 to 45ish amps @ 240 to 220v. Better get yourself some Mr. Buddy or kerosene heaters if you're on heat pump somewhere it will get cold enough to matter.
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03-17-2023 at 11:07 AM.
03-17-2023 at 11:07 AM.
Thanks for posting, been looking to buy this model as running off NG here in MI is a game changer as I (theoretically) have unlimited natural gas. In speaking with my electrician, this will comfortably run our entire house.
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03-17-2023 at 11:22 AM.
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Wooden stove is being ban, natural gas is being ban, gasoline is being ban, and your washing machine is on the chopping block too.

This generator is using all the fuel source that is being ban right now by the government. Is my statement true?
No, your statement is not true. I'm pretty sure they're not going to ban natural gas anytime soon. Besides the fact that a good portion of the country heats their homes with it, the country produces somewhere around 38% of its electricity with it. My utility ran new gas lines in an 80+ year old neighborhood two years ago, pretty sure they're confident in getting a return on that investment. As for gasoline, the automobile market is turning toward electrification, this is true. What's not true is gasoline being banned. Besides the installed base of ICE cars that will last for at least two more decades; boats, snowmobiles, lawn equipment, propeller aircraft, etc., etc. all still have an installed base that require gasoline for the foreseeable future. As far as I can tell, you can't run this generator on wood and the washing machine remark is kinda outta left field. Finally, you didn't mention propane, so I will, also not going anywhere anytime soon, with its installed base of forklifts, construction equipment, rural home heat, bbq grills, portable heaters and on and on. Do continue to live scared of minor, incremental progress in the world's fuel use though.
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It won't. Most aux heat strips start at 10kw - 42 to 45ish amps @ 240 to 220v. Better get yourself some Mr. Buddy or kerosene heaters if you're on heat pump somewhere it will get cold enough to matter.
That's what I was thinking. I run an 11kW gen on 240V/50A so I pretty much have to choose between that or the rest of the house. Unless it's really bad, I can keep the HVAC breakers off and run a couple space heaters.
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03-17-2023 at 12:45 PM.
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If you are looking for trifuel, I would trust this one over the Firman or the Duromax...
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Quote from lionheartssj :
If you want to run your HVAC, you'll need 50amps at least.

I would clarify to state that it likely wouldn't run your AC on 30 amps. If you have a smaller system and install a soft start it would.
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Quote from lionheartssj :
If you want to run your HVAC, you'll need 50amps at least.

I have a 6500 /8125 watt generac and have no issues running my gas furnace and mini split plus other appliances off the 30a on the generator
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Just curious if anyone knows the answer, why is NG and LP always rated lower than traditional gas? If it's weaker combustion properties, wouldn't just an increase in pressure (e.g. more NG/LP pumped in) solve that? Just trying to wrap my head around it. If it's capable of higher wattage why is it limited when on NG/LP? Thanks in advance for any insight. I've always wanted to hook one up to my NG line for emergencies and have "unlimited fuel" but don't want to leave ~12+% capacity on the table.
Gasoline has the most energy density followed by LPG with NG in last. You simply can't get enough fuel into the cylinder with LPG or NG to make as much power as you can with gasoline.
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How is that a weakness...it's an 8000W generator, you can't get 50A from an 8000 running watts generator at 220V...basically Ohms law. You would need an 11000 running watts generator to get 50A.
You also can't push 8000w through a 30amp breaker, so if you want the full 8000w you need more than a 30 amp. That means you need a 50 amp plug because that's the next size bigger.
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Quote from HairyButtGoblin :
I would clarify to state that it likely wouldn't run your AC on 30 amps. If you have a smaller system and install a soft start it would.

I can run my 5 ton unit on my champion 7000/9000 with a soft start kit over a 30A generator breaker.....
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