Price drop on every Tesla model - $49990

Quick question. To qualify for the fed tax break on the Tesla Model 3, do you have to take possession of the vehicle before April 18th or put a down payment for the vehicle before April 18th?

I believe they are planning a hybrid that can go 124 miles or something on electric before going to gas. That's honestly a lot better but a car like that will probably be super expensive and have a lot that needs to be fixed. I'm still not convinced about batteries either. I'm waiting for a news story five years from now about how renewables has created a mountain of e-waste that's being dumped in third world countries followed by "switch back to oil and gas to save the planet!"

That is pretty much exactly what happened with the "plant a tree, save the planet" movement. It's now all about using as much paper products now to save the planet, ROFLMAO. I used to go to college with many rich liberals. They are not the brightest cats. They all jump on trends and do little research or thinking for themselves.

I disagree with the statement that electric car mandates are upsetting and that they are not the future. I believe that electric cars are a necessary step in the fight against climate change, and that mandates are a necessary tool to encourage their adoption.

There are a number of problems with gasoline-powered cars, including their emissions of greenhouse gases and other pollutants, their reliance on non-renewable resources, and their contribution to noise pollution. Electric cars address all of these problems. They do not emit greenhouse gases or other pollutants, they do not rely on non-renewable resources, and they are much quieter than gasoline-powered cars.

I understand that there are some concerns about electric cars, such as their range and the cost of batteries. However, these concerns are being addressed as technology improves. Electric cars are becoming more affordable, and their range is increasing. In addition, new technologies are being developed to make batteries more efficient and longer-lasting.

I believe that electric cars are the future of transportation. They are cleaner, more efficient, and more sustainable than gasoline-powered cars. I support electric car mandates because I believe they are necessary to encourage their adoption and to help us transition to a cleaner future.

I also disagree with the statement that it has become politically incorrect to criticize electric cars. I believe that it is important to have open and honest discussions about the pros and cons of electric cars, and that we should not shy away from criticism. However, I do believe that some people have been quick to dismiss criticism of electric cars as being motivated by greed or blind zealotry. I believe that this is unfair, and that it is important to listen to all sides of the issue.

Ultimately, I believe that the decision of whether or not to buy an electric car is a personal one. There are pros and cons to both electric cars and gasoline-powered cars, and each person needs to decide what is best for them. However, I believe that electric cars are a positive step forward, and that they have the potential to make a significant impact on the environment.

Honda and Toyota are still not taking EVs seriously.

You cannot prove EVs can replace gas cars adequately.D.

In many cities, chargers are still few and far between,

Samsung is bringing down prices a lot. A 77 inch A2 is $1,500 now. It will definitely reach $999 by Black Friday this year, I'm thinking..

I'm waiting for a news story five years from now about how renewables has created a mountain of e-waste that's being dumped in third world countries .

Tesla Y is worth about half of an Ioniq 5. The build quality and manufacturer reliability is about half.

You cannot prove EVs can replace gas cars adequately. You really didn't have to post this essay. Prove to me that these things are as cost-efficient and road-trip worthy as a gas car. You can't, end of story, you can't vet them, they're not ready. Also, they were invented in the nineteenth century and this is as good as they've gotten. That's NOT GOOD.

The 3 suspension has changed a couple of times, might want to do a new test drive.

Also check what wheels are on the thing-- like all cars bigger wheels with thinner tires will ride rougher... so test drive one with 18s if you can rather than 20s.

At 300 miles you wouldn't even need to stop most likely...or if you did it'd be 5 minutes, once.... in the 400-500 mile range of that you'd need to stop once for about 15 minutes... or twice for 10-15 minutes each to go say 600ish miles....which you'd likely do in a gas car anyway to use a restroom, get drinks, gas, etc.

But battery mining and manufacturing, even today, is cleaner than oil.

You cannot prove EVs can replace gas cars adequately. You really didn't have to post this essay. Prove to me that these things are as cost-efficient and road-trip worthy as a gas car. You can't, end of story, you can't vet them, they're not ready. Also, they were invented in the nineteenth century and this is as good as they've gotten. That's NOT GOOD.

You are wrong.

Your opinions are just that, your opinions based on politics.

I have contacts with Toyota execs in Malaysia.

Credit to Toyota for realizing BZ was a failure and willing to spend to start from scratch. MOst companies continue to walk the failed path.

They are planning on Hybrids to keep them going until they build a proper EV platform.

I strongly disagree with your assertion that electric vehicles (EVs) cannot replace gas cars adequately. In fact, recent studies and advancements in technology have shown that EVs are becoming increasingly cost-efficient and road-trip worthy.

To begin with, EVs are now much more cost-efficient than gas cars. A recent study by the Union of Concerned Scientists found that electric vehicles cost less than half as much to operate as gasoline vehicles. This is due to the fact that electricity is cheaper than gasoline, and electric vehicles require less maintenance than gasoline vehicles. On top of that, electric vehicles are eligible for federal and state tax credits, which can significantly reduce the cost of ownership.

In addition, electric vehicles are becoming increasingly road-trip worthy. Many electric vehicles now have a range of over 200 miles on a single charge, meaning that they can easily handle long road trips. On top of that, electric vehicle charging infrastructure is rapidly expanding across the country, making it easier to find charging stations when you need them.

Finally, it is important to note that electric vehicles are not stuck in the nineteenth century. In fact, electric vehicles have seen tremendous advancements in recent years. Battery technology has improved significantly, allowing for longer range and faster charging times. On top of that, electric vehicles are now available in a wide variety of shapes and sizes, meaning that there is an electric vehicle for everyone.

In conclusion, electric vehicles are becoming increasingly cost-efficient and road-trip worthy. With the advancements in battery technology and charging infrastructure, electric vehicles are now a viable option for many drivers. So, I strongly disagree with your assertion that electric vehicles cannot replace gas cars adequately.

Also can I add EAP/FSD after I buy the car?

When I check the tesla route map site, it seems to show close to 2 hr stops with model 3 RWD (for 600 mile trips).

My main concern is around the actual range based on external factors - like depending on the weather, speed etc. If the range is 280, will the actual range be more like 200 on M3-RWD for these type of trips?

Other option I was thinking was to buy a cheap ice "bridge" car and wait 2-3 years for an EV when the range is more like 4-500 miles.

Not true

I bought a Tesla and most Tesla buyers don't tell the truth about EVs. YouTubers say only good things about them and they don't tell the truth.EVs are really fun to drive and faster than any other vehicle I drove. Technology is good too. But, 1. Phantom drain 1-5% battery drain per day just like any smartphone. You don't lose gas when an ice vehicle is parked. This is really bad when you forget to charge and you park your car at the airport or family or friend's home, where every mile counts. If you use sentry mode, you can lose 10+% per day. 2. Glass top really gets hot and you need to have the AC running while the EV is parked, which uses the battery a lot. 3. In the winter, the battery loses the range a lot. 4. You will have the charger connected all the time because of 1 2 and 3. Once you buy an EV, you will know. So, is it really saving money when it's plugged in all the time? And super charger is expensive.. same price as gasoline. 5. When you travel with an EV, expect to add at least 1 hr time to 3-4 hr trip for charging and getting to the charger. If you really want an EV, buy also an ICE vehicle.