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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D + ASUS B650E-F Motherboard + 64GB G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5 RAM

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Select Micro Center Stores have CPU/Motherboard/RAM Computer Build Bundle (AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, ASUS B650E-F, 64GB G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5-6000 RAM) on sale for $799.99. Select free store pick up where available.

Thanks to Community Member ww2style for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Only available for store pickup. Availability will vary by location.
Bundle Includes:
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Raphael AM5 4.2GHz 16-Core Boxed Processor (Heatsink Not Included, 100-100000908WO)
    • Raphael AM5 16-Core Desktop Processor
    • 16MB L2, 128MB L3 Cache
    • 16 Cores, 32 Threads
    • AMD B650, B650E, X670, X670E Chipsets
    • 128GB DDR5-5200 Memory Supported
    • 3 Years Limited Parts & Labor Warranty
  • ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WIFI AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard (B650EFGMWF)
    • AMD B650E
    • AMD AM5 Ryzen Processors
    • 128GB Dual Channel 4 x 288pin DIMM Support
    • 3 Years Parts & Labor Warranty
  • 64GB (2x32GB) G.Skill G.Skill Flare X5 Series DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL30 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-FX5, Black)
    • DDR5-6000 PC5-48000
    • CAS Latency 30, Timings 30-40-40-96
    • 1.40 Volts
    • Black Aluminum Heat Spreader
    • No LED Lighting
    • Lifetime Limited Warranty

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  • Additional Information:
    • This price is $444.97 lower (36% savings) than the $1244.96 list price.
    • Processor (7950X3D) is eligible to receive Starfield Premium Edition for Free from AMD (Details)
    • Offer valid for a limited time while supplies last, at participating locations.
    • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
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Select Micro Center Stores have CPU/Motherboard/RAM Computer Build Bundle (AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D, ASUS B650E-F, 64GB G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5-6000 RAM) on sale for $799.99. Select free store pick up where available.

Thanks to Community Member ww2style for sharing this deal.
  • Note: Only available for store pickup. Availability will vary by location.
Bundle Includes:
  • AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Raphael AM5 4.2GHz 16-Core Boxed Processor (Heatsink Not Included, 100-100000908WO)
    • Raphael AM5 16-Core Desktop Processor
    • 16MB L2, 128MB L3 Cache
    • 16 Cores, 32 Threads
    • AMD B650, B650E, X670, X670E Chipsets
    • 128GB DDR5-5200 Memory Supported
    • 3 Years Limited Parts & Labor Warranty
  • ASUS B650E-F ROG STRIX GAMING WIFI AMD AM5 ATX Motherboard (B650EFGMWF)
    • AMD B650E
    • AMD AM5 Ryzen Processors
    • 128GB Dual Channel 4 x 288pin DIMM Support
    • 3 Years Parts & Labor Warranty
  • 64GB (2x32GB) G.Skill G.Skill Flare X5 Series DDR5-6000 PC5-48000 CL30 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-FX5, Black)
    • DDR5-6000 PC5-48000
    • CAS Latency 30, Timings 30-40-40-96
    • 1.40 Volts
    • Black Aluminum Heat Spreader
    • No LED Lighting
    • Lifetime Limited Warranty

Editor's Notes

Written by SlickDealio | Staff
  • Additional Information:
    • This price is $444.97 lower (36% savings) than the $1244.96 list price.
    • Processor (7950X3D) is eligible to receive Starfield Premium Edition for Free from AMD (Details)
    • Offer valid for a limited time while supplies last, at participating locations.
    • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
    • Refer to the forum thread for additional details and community discussion.

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BeigeRoad455
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This bundle has the exact same ram and motherboard as the 7900x bundle, so you're not getting any benefits besides better cpu performance, and it costs $250 more. In my opinion this bundle is a significantly worse value, I personally think the performance improvements of the cpu alone are nowhere near justifying paying 45% more. Additionally, if I was going to spend $800, I'd want a x670e board rather than a b650e board which has much more limited pcie.
When it comes to multithreaded performance the 7950x3d is around 23% faster than the 7900x, and around 5% slower than the 7950x non-3d. When it comes to gaming performance at 1080p with a rtx-4090, which is basically the best case scenario for a 3d-vcache chip to make a meaningful difference since more realistic configurations will be far more gpu bottle-necked, the 7950x3d is less than 15% faster than the 7900x on average. There are particular games which benefit greatly from extra cache and therefore may have a best case scenario improvement of 25%+, but there are also many other games which see little to no benefit from 3d-vcache. Since I assume anyone spending $800 for their cpu, mobo, and ram will be playing at 1440p or higher the margin is actually even smaller, and is extremely small at 4k. The x3d cpus also have a much more efficient default power/thermal configuration than other ryzen 7000 series processors, but you can achieve similar levels of efficiency on standard x series processors with pbo (precision boost overdrive) and curve optimizer (or if you don't want to mess with that you could just enable eco mode).
The multi-ccd 3d-vcache processors also have some additional quirks which are worth noting. They require the installation of an additional chipset driver which interfaces with the Microsoft x-box game bar in order to determine when you launch a game. Once it detects you have launched a game it "parks" the non-vcache ccd, effectively turning the 7950x3d into an 8-core cpu for gaming. This is done since it both eliminates inter-ccd latency which would otherwise moderately decreases gaming performance, and because the windows scheduler doesn't yet have a way to properly assign tasks which benefit from v-cache (such as gaming) to the ccd which has v-cache. Supposedly if more than 8 cores are necessary the chipset driver will "un-park" the second ccd, but this is obviously an additional bit of complexity and point of failure. If you only plan on doing gaming the 7800x3d will perform just as well while also not having to worry about ccd parking. Certain advanced overclocking features are disabled for 3d-vcache cpus since they are much more sensitive to voltage and thermals, but you can still use pbo so it shouldn't be a huge deal.
Overall, if you have an extremely large budget, are not concerned with price to performance, and want both absolute top tier gaming and top tier productivity performance without using an obscene amount of power like the i9-13900k does, this bundle may be worthwhile. I'd still recommend waiting to see if you could get it with a better motherboard though. Otherwise, I'd just get the 7900x bundle if it fits your use cases, or if you've got a high budget but are only gaming just get a 7800x3d when they eventually have a good sale on it.
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Lots of misinformation about DDR5 in this thread.

First and foremost, DDR5 6000 is the current sweet spot for AMD RAM performance on AM5. New AGESA firmware allows overclocking past this but at a performance penalty due to the loss of Gear 1 (1:1 fabric/uclk/mem sync) above 6400MHz. You'd need to hit 8000MHz or higher on the RAM to make a DDR5 overclock on AM5 worthwhile. Just getting above 6000 in Gear1 mode is a crapshoot, and offers minimal performance gains.

The RAM this bundle comes with is CL30, with some of the other primary timings being just slightly higher than a good 2x16GB kit's timings. It's most likely Hynix A-die, which could potentially be tightened down to CL28 at 6000 with lower primary and tertiary timings as well. This 64GB kit is perfectly fine performance-wise for this CPU and platform at stock settings. No overclocking is needed. For AMD chips with 3D vcache like the 7950X3D, memory timings are not as critical as they are for non-vcache CPUs.

Edit- Forgot to mention that the included 2x32GB kit will have a speed advantage over 2x16GB kits because the larger kit is dual-rank. Someone said the 64GB kit is slower because it is larger, which is flat out false.
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Why will speeds be slower by having more RAM?

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How does the 7950X3D compare to the 7900X? The combo for it is $550.
https://slickdeals.net/f/16825289-microcenter-amd-ryzen-9-7900x-asus-b650e-f-rog-strix-gaming-wifi-g-skill-flare-x5-series-kit-64gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-549-99

PS the $25 off $100 coupon doesn't work on this since it's a bundle. Tried it on Friday.
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Quote from Eragorn :
How does the 7950X3D compare to the 7900X? The combo for it is $550.
https://slickdeals.net/f/16825289-microcenter-amd-ryzen-9-7900x-asus-b650e-f-rog-strix-gaming-wifi-g-skill-flare-x5-series-kit-64gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-549-99

PS the $25 off $100 coupon doesn't work on this since it's a bundle. Tried it on Friday.
Upwards of 30-40% better performance depending on the title. Uses ~50% less power. 4 more cores/8 more threads, slightly higher boost clock. 8 core CCD vs 6. Newer as well.
Did you try it on this bundle? I'm wondering if they'd consider honoring it since there's nothing explicit in the coupon or the bundle that says you can't use it. Maybe they'd go for it considering this bundle hasn't had the same attention.
Last edited by ww2style July 30, 2023 at 05:53 PM.
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Quote from Eagles89 :
64GB is way too much RAM. Speed will be slower and you will also be paying more on your electricity bill each year because of it.
Why will speeds be slower by having more RAM?
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Quote from X1911 :
Why will speeds be slower by having more RAM?
Larger sticks have higher latency.
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Quote from gjsneptune :
Larger sticks have higher latency.
Ah that makes sense, duh. I just checked the timing, seems pretty good for 64GB.

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Quote from gjsneptune :
Larger sticks have higher latency.
What ddr5 are you looking at that has significantly better timing than these? The rationale for the 7950x3d is dual purpose use. If you're just gaming... 7800x3d is superior and you'd want the couple hundred bucks towards your GPU. Anyone that needs this many cores will probably want at least 2x32GB ram.
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Quote from dyrne :
What ddr5 are you looking at that has significantly better timing than these? The rationale for the 7950x3d is dual purpose use. If you're just gaming... 7800x3d is superior and you'd want the couple hundred bucks towards your GPU. Anyone that needs this many cores will probably want at least 2x32GB ram.
I'm not the one who brought up slow memory. I was just answering someone's question.
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The 7950x (non-3D) bundled price was the same for quite a while but included an x670-E board. Either way this is a good deal, but I'd opt to wait to see if they tossed in an x670 board. For me, the TB4 header for an add-in card was important.
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Upwards of 30-40% better performance depending on the title. Uses ~50% less power. 4 more cores/8 more threads, slightly higher boost clock. 8 core CCD vs 6. Newer as well.

Did you try it on this bundle? I'm wondering if they'd consider honoring it since there's nothing explicit in the coupon or the bundle that says you can't use it. Maybe they'd go for it considering this bundle hasn't had the same attention.
30-40% better - maybe at 720p on a couple of titles? If you're gaming at 4K, the difference is around 4% on average. If at 1440p, maybe 10-11%, and closer to 13% at 1080p. 30-40% is ridiculous and is reserved to outlier titles at low res if any. I don't think I say anywhere where the 7950X3D was better than the 7900X by 40%.

Here is a link to techpowerup's review. They have a 20 game average and compare the relative performance of the 7950x3D with a 4090 to other CPUs:
https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...3d/20.html
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Quote from AminS :
The 7950x (non-3D) bundled price was the same for quite a while but included an x670-E board. Either way this is a good deal, but I'd opt to wait to see if they tossed in an x670 board. For me, the TB4 header for an add-in card was important.
I'm anticipating that their 7950X3D bundle will sweeten eventually, it seems like the 7700/7900X bundles will sell and this one will sit for the most part. Considering the 7900X bundle uses the same motherboard and RAM as this bundle, they'll likely swap one or both out for some stock that they want to move.

For a pure gaming use, is there much more to gain from a slightly better motherboard? The RAM is already overkill and has good CL timings, I can't imagine there's much more to gain there.
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Quote from ww2style :
I'm anticipating that their 7950X3D bundle will sweeten eventually, it seems like the 7700/7900X bundles will sell and this one will sit for the most part. Considering the 7900X bundle uses the same motherboard and RAM as this bundle, they'll likely swap one or both out for some stock that they want to move.

For a pure gaming use, is there much more to gain from a slightly better motherboard? The RAM is already overkill and has good CL timings, I can't imagine there's much more to gain there.
No. The x650 is fine. But, if you're planning on sticking with the same board for 4ish+ years, then it's worth some consideration. If Apple pushes TB4 on their new devices you may see the cost and availability of Thunderbolt/usb4 devices come down and become more widely available. If that's not important to you at all the x650 gives ample expandability.

Either way, if you're next to a Microcenter there's rarely been a better time to build a bare bones system. GPU prices and game optimization, on the other hand, is variable.

If you are gaming at 4K, I'm not sure the x3D processors are worth it, TBH. You're talking 4%ish difference with a 4090. I might consider saving the $250 and putting it toward a better GPU. If you're playing at 1440p or 1080p on competitive titles where you need every frame, then perhaps it's worth it. But these are high end, costly platforms. I'd assume they are being paired with high end GPUs for high fidelity gaming not CSGO.
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Quote from Eagles89 :
Kind of misleading because the 16GB stick will be much easier to overclock than a 32GB stick
These are bottom of the barrel ram. I don't think you are going to have much success with either a 16 gb or 32 gb stick but AMD is preping a BIOS update that's suppose to help with the RAM issue tho.

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For those that plan to use the bottom PCIx16 (x4 mode) slot, you'll lose the ability to use the 3rd M.2 slot. I was on the fence about this particular bundle, but with the 7900X for a long while. That either/or limitation is what keeps me from getting anything with this motherboard. Really wish they'd bundle the E version or some other X670/E board.

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