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I have this account, started a few months ago. Only drawback I've found is that if/when they increase the interest rate on their accounts, you have to manually request an increase each time. I started at 5.03%, now requested an increase to 5.25%. I messaged them in the app at 4:53pm, they responded and updated my rate at 5:03pm (exactly 10 min). I'm ok doing a couple minutes worth of work a couple/few times a year to maintain the highest percentage. Works exactly as promised otherwise, great rates.
As per their website FAQ...
The dollar limits at funding are:
Maximum to transfer in: $250,000.00
The dollar limits after your account is funded are:
Maximum per day in or out $30,000.00
Maximum per month $60,000.00
You may not make funds transfers in excess of limits described on the External Bank Transfer service.
We reserve the right to change from time to time the dollar amount of funds transfers you are permitted to make using our service.
I had the same experience today. Happened to check my account and found that my 5.09% rate had been downgraded to 4.5%. I spoke to CS on the phone and they raised my rate to 5.25%. I asked what the deal was with lowering my interest rate when rates are rising -- including the rates they offer new customers. He said that I just have to check my account every week or so to see if they do it again!
So basically, this is a great account for folks willing to call them on their BS. Apparently enough customers don't do that to make it worthwhile for them to play games like this.
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Their support isn't the best and is slow, but you can request for the maximum to be increased. They used to have lower amounts and I was able to get it increased on request. Took a week or two though.
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10-01-2023 at 09:30 AM.
This bank is shady, they lure you with high interest rate but soon after you join they decrease that for you while still advertising high rates for newcomers.
I signed up and was hesitant because of the bad reviews but it has been working great for me. I did have my rate dropped and had to do a quick chat to get it increased.
I have chase private client (free wires - can maintain status by keeping $100k in treasury bills with chase), same/next day e-deposit availability.
I ordered checks for the account from walmart.
So if I get a check I want to earn interest on ASAP, I will e-deposit it in chase and wire the funds to UFB. I then setup all my expenses to come out of UFB. And I write all my checks out of UFB.
If I need to withdraw funds ASAP, I just write a check to myself and e-deposit it at chase - ideally on a thurs/fri so I earn interest over the weekend. Also, I did a few withdrawals for 50k via check before I even realized they have a 30k/day policy and no issues. I think this limit only applies for transfers initiated from UFB
I have no idea why people have an issue with UFB. I opened an account back in March and haven't had any issues. I get paid every month and I have called axos bank quite a few times regarding my account and got English speaking professional help. Also never had an issue with large money transfers initiated from an external account. Transfered 25k in one day.
This account makes more money than my capital one CD and that money is tied up for like 8 months to go.
My issue with them is that they cut my rate almost in half at exactly the 3 month mark. This isn't listed as a teaser rate but that's how it appeared to me. I transferred to get 5% that hasn't changed at all in 9 months.
This bank is shady, they lure you with high interest rate but soon after you join they decrease that for you while still advertising high rates for newcomers.
yep. I'm not about that calling to get higher interest rates bs. I don't play those games. I'd rather sacrifice the .25% because I'm not going to remember to check every day to see if they dropped my rate. I lose more than the .25% by paying my adhd tax in situations like this.
I posted this in another UFB thread but I'll post this here again as well:
Tried this last year. WAS. NOT. WORTH. IT.
There are hidden limits on how much you can transfer out at a time that do not align with their documentation, which prevented me from getting my money out. Tried contacting support at least 10 times and they were completely unhelpful. I asked them over and over to close my account, they said they couldn't until I withdrew all my money, but the whole reason for closing my account is because they wouldn't let me withdraw my money. Felt like a total scam. Switched to cash/savings account at Wealthfront, couldn't be happier.
It's just the normal 'this may vary' *. No minimum or anything that I can see. Here is their * info:
* The Annual Percentage Yield (APY) is accurate as of 10/2/2023. The interest rate and corresponding APY for savings is variable and is set at our discretion. This is a tiered variable rate account. Interest rates may change as often as daily without prior notice. Fees may reduce earnings.
I have this account, started a few months ago. Only drawback I've found is that if/when they increase the interest rate on their accounts, you have to manually request an increase each time. I started at 5.03%, now requested an increase to 5.25%. I messaged them in the app at 4:53pm, they responded and updated my rate at 5:03pm (exactly 10 min). I'm ok doing a couple minutes worth of work a couple/few times a year to maintain the highest percentage. Works exactly as promised otherwise, great rates.
I concur with they lowered it one time without notifying me as well 5.03 to 4.85. I contactwd them and they moved it up to the new 5.25 the next day
I have this account, started a few months ago. Only drawback I've found is that if/when they increase the interest rate on their accounts, you have to manually request an increase each time. I started at 5.03%, now requested an increase to 5.25%. I messaged them in the app at 4:53pm, they responded and updated my rate at 5:03pm (exactly 10 min). I'm ok doing a couple minutes worth of work a couple/few times a year to maintain the highest percentage. Works exactly as promised otherwise, great rates.
You have to manually request an increase to rate? What a PITA. Most people won't remember to check if rate goes up. like do are we suppose to check monthly? If rate goes down, I bet they automatically lowered the rate. What a shady practice. Thanks for the heads up.
I used them about 2 years ago, and it was a real pain in the a$$ to withdraw funds once they quickly lowered the rates. I think it was about $20k per day at the time, plus the time it took to transfer from one bank to another. I wound up losing a lot of money because of the slow withdrawal policy
Two things to know about UFB that I've learned after being with them for a while:
1) Monitor your interest rate. I signed up right at 5%. They increased the rate on their site to 5.25 but somehow my rate had dropped to 4.75%. It's one thing not to automatically raise it, but to lower it for no reason didn't sit well with me. I spoke to customer service, which isn't easy, and they couldn't explain it. If you're willing to check your rate a few times a month you'll get among the highest with UFB, but they like to move it around and hope you don't notice.
2) They are slow to move money. I mean SLOOOOOOW. I've had it take up to 2 weeks for a deposit to show and start accruing interest. If you are going to move money very often, this isn't the bank for you. If you want to park $100K, then see item #1 and you should be fine.
I used them about 2 years ago, and it was a real pain in the a$$ to withdraw funds once they quickly lowered the rates. I think it was about $20k per day at the time, plus the time it took to transfer from one bank to another. I wound up losing a lot of money because of the slow withdrawal policy
interesting, I plan to just wire it all out at once, could you not have done it via 1 transaction?
also outbound 20k bank to bank is pretty large, all my other banks/credit unions may have a daily limit of like 10k incoming/outgoing, ive been with this bank for this year, and plan to wire out whenever the time comes, ill pay the 1x wire fee, they have paid me handsomely in the interest
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The dollar limits at funding are:
Maximum to transfer in: $250,000.00
The dollar limits after your account is funded are:
Maximum per day in or out $30,000.00
Maximum per month $60,000.00
You may not make funds transfers in excess of limits described on the External Bank Transfer service.
We reserve the right to change from time to time the dollar amount of funds transfers you are permitted to make using our service.
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So basically, this is a great account for folks willing to call them on their BS. Apparently enough customers don't do that to make it worthwhile for them to play games like this.
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I have chase private client (free wires - can maintain status by keeping $100k in treasury bills with chase), same/next day e-deposit availability.
I ordered checks for the account from walmart.
So if I get a check I want to earn interest on ASAP, I will e-deposit it in chase and wire the funds to UFB. I then setup all my expenses to come out of UFB. And I write all my checks out of UFB.
If I need to withdraw funds ASAP, I just write a check to myself and e-deposit it at chase - ideally on a thurs/fri so I earn interest over the weekend. Also, I did a few withdrawals for 50k via check before I even realized they have a 30k/day policy and no issues. I think this limit only applies for transfers initiated from UFB
This account makes more money than my capital one CD and that money is tied up for like 8 months to go.
Tried this last year. WAS. NOT. WORTH. IT.
There are hidden limits on how much you can transfer out at a time that do not align with their documentation, which prevented me from getting my money out. Tried contacting support at least 10 times and they were completely unhelpful. I asked them over and over to close my account, they said they couldn't until I withdrew all my money, but the whole reason for closing my account is because they wouldn't let me withdraw my money. Felt like a total scam. Switched to cash/savings account at Wealthfront, couldn't be happier.
* The Annual Percentage Yield (APY) is accurate as of 10/2/2023. The interest rate and corresponding APY for savings is variable and is set at our discretion. This is a tiered variable rate account. Interest rates may change as often as daily without prior notice. Fees may reduce earnings.
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I concur with they lowered it one time without notifying me as well 5.03 to 4.85. I contactwd them and they moved it up to the new 5.25 the next day
BIL has 5.2% yield right now (net after expenses), and it just tracks the market so you won't be in for any nasty surprises.
1) Monitor your interest rate. I signed up right at 5%. They increased the rate on their site to 5.25 but somehow my rate had dropped to 4.75%. It's one thing not to automatically raise it, but to lower it for no reason didn't sit well with me. I spoke to customer service, which isn't easy, and they couldn't explain it. If you're willing to check your rate a few times a month you'll get among the highest with UFB, but they like to move it around and hope you don't notice.
2) They are slow to move money. I mean SLOOOOOOW. I've had it take up to 2 weeks for a deposit to show and start accruing interest. If you are going to move money very often, this isn't the bank for you. If you want to park $100K, then see item #1 and you should be fine.
also outbound 20k bank to bank is pretty large, all my other banks/credit unions may have a daily limit of like 10k incoming/outgoing, ive been with this bank for this year, and plan to wire out whenever the time comes, ill pay the 1x wire fee, they have paid me handsomely in the interest
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BIL has 5.2% yield right now (net after expenses), and it just tracks the market so you won't be in for any nasty surprises.
5.25% is bigger than 5.2%.
Math has the power.
The brain is a good thing if you can use it correctly 😜