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I have this account, started a few months ago. Only drawback I've found is that if/when they increase the interest rate on their accounts, you have to manually request an increase each time. I started at 5.03%, now requested an increase to 5.25%. I messaged them in the app at 4:53pm, they responded and updated my rate at 5:03pm (exactly 10 min). I'm ok doing a couple minutes worth of work a couple/few times a year to maintain the highest percentage. Works exactly as promised otherwise, great rates.
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The dollar limits at funding are:
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The dollar limits after your account is funded are:
Maximum per day in or out $30,000.00
Maximum per month $60,000.00
You may not make funds transfers in excess of limits described on the External Bank Transfer service.
We reserve the right to change from time to time the dollar amount of funds transfers you are permitted to make using our service.
I had the same experience today. Happened to check my account and found that my 5.09% rate had been downgraded to 4.5%. I spoke to CS on the phone and they raised my rate to 5.25%. I asked what the deal was with lowering my interest rate when rates are rising -- including the rates they offer new customers. He said that I just have to check my account every week or so to see if they do it again!
So basically, this is a great account for folks willing to call them on their BS. Apparently enough customers don't do that to make it worthwhile for them to play games like this.
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Income over $215k in New York City - 32% federal income tax, 3.8% ACA net income tax, 6.85% New York State, 3.876% New York City = 46.526%
Income over $243,725 is 35% federal income tax, 3.8% ACA net income tax, 6.85% New York State, 3.876% New York City = 49.526% (50%)
California taxes income above $66k at 9.3%, Wyoming taxes income above $60k at 8.5%
The are 9 states with income tax which with tax rates less than ~5% they are AZ, CO, IN, KY, LA, MI, ND, OH, and PN -
7 states have no income tax: AK, FL, NV, SD, TN, TX, NH
You may want to look up progressive and marginal tax rate definition and methodology.
No one making $300k should be paying anything close to 50% in taxes. I'd say ~$1m salary is when you get close to 50% net.
You may want to look up progressive and marginal tax rate definition and methodology.
No one making $300k should be paying anything close to 50% in taxes. I'd say ~$1m salary is when you get close to 50% net.
I'm extremely well versed as described in my prior post and I'm referring to the income generated from interest on a high yield savings account (which is taxed at the highest marginal rate plus ACA net interest rate) - here are some resources to help you:
I'm extremely well versed as described in my prior post and I'm referring to the income generated from interest on a high yield savings account (which is taxed at the highest marginal rate plus ACA net interest rate) - here are some resources to help you:
Happy to help, just realize that the interest earned from the account is going to be taxed at the highest margin of your earnings - which is my case is 50% - that brings the net yield on a 5% interest baring account to 2.5% - as a result I have my fixed income allocation in SGOV which is the 0-3 month Treasury ETF that yields 4.87% which is reinvested tax free.
Happy to help, just realize that the interest earned from the account is going to be taxed at the highest margin of your earnings - which is my case is 50% - that brings the net yield on a 5% interest baring account to 2.5% - as a result I have my fixed income allocation in SGOV which is the 0-3 month Treasury ETF that yields 4.87% which is reinvested tax free.
How are you reinvesting tax-free while maintaining liquidity? If the holding is not in a retirement account, I'm not following you, and if it is in a retirement account, how is it liquid? I'm personally in XHLF, which is also a Treasury based ETF, but it's with my main brokerage so while I reinvest the dividends, there are certainly tax implications.
How are you reinvesting tax-free while maintaining liquidity? If the holding is not in a retirement account, I'm not following you, and if it is in a retirement account, how is it liquid? I'm personally in XHLF, which is also a Treasury based ETF, but it's with my main brokerage so while I reinvest the dividends, there are certainly tax implications.
It's a non-retirement account - if you set up a DRIP (dividend reinvestment program) both SGOV and XHLF should pay a "qualified dividend" meaning you only pay taxes as long term cap gains when you exit the position (vs. non-qualified dividend which you pay short term cap gains/straight income tax on if you take the dividend as a cash payment vs. reinvestment) - the NAV/price on SGOV and XHLF is basically 1 so in both cases the price doesn't really change so it's entirely liquid if we need to cash out. SGOV yield is currently 4.85% while XHLF is 4.49%
It's a non-retirement account - if you set up a DRIP (dividend reinvestment program) both SGOV and XHLF should pay a "qualified dividend" meaning you only pay taxes as long term cap gains when you exit the position (vs. non-qualified dividend which you pay short term cap gains/straight income tax on if you take the dividend as a cash payment vs. reinvestment) - the NAV/price on SGOV and XHLF is basically 1 so in both cases the price doesn't really change so it's entirely liquid if we need to cash out. SGOV yield is currently 4.85% while XHLF is 4.49%
OK, now I'm following you. I only started a position in XHLF in May and have been building it up as I move out of positions in my loser holdings, and have been tracking 30-day yield performance monthly, at the least. I'm still awaiting my 1099-B to confirm that it has indeed been treated like a qualified dividend, which is why I have been DRiP'ing it since day 1. I did accidentally sell a handful of shares on the mobile app one early morning instead of buying another handful -- sigh -- but not a big deal in the grand scheme of things as it's not even 1% of my overall position.
What timeframe/reference are you basing the 4.49% yield on? I've been using the following for XHLF 30-day:
It was as high as 5.31% on Nov 1 and Dec 1, then 5.2%% on 1/1, and 5.10% on Feb 1. Now it's dipped just under 5% for the first time since late May. I'm hoping that my winners keep on running while I continue to move my losers into XHLF (and now SGOV!), but I don't have my hopes up too high.
And, I'm now officially into SGOV with 90% of my fixed income. Thanks for the recommendation!
OK, now I'm following you. I only started a position in XHLF in May and have been building it up as I move out of positions in my loser holdings, and have been tracking 30-day yield performance monthly, at the least. I'm still awaiting my 1099-B to confirm that it has indeed been treated like a qualified dividend, which is why I have been DRiP'ing it since day 1. I did accidentally sell a handful of shares on the mobile app one early morning instead of buying another handful -- sigh -- but not a big deal in the grand scheme of things as it's not even 1% of my overall position.
What timeframe/reference are you basing the 4.49% yield on? I've been using the following for XHLF 30-day:
It was as high as 5.31% on Nov 1 and Dec 1, then 5.2%% on 1/1, and 5.10% on Feb 1. Now it's dipped just under 5% for the first time since late May. I'm hoping that my winners keep on running while I continue to move my losers into XHLF (and now SGOV!), but I don't have my hopes up too high.
And, I'm now officially into SGOV with 90% of my fixed income. Thanks for the recommendation!
can you explain this again - in more simpler way, like why is your method of investment better then this thread to start, thanks i am interested in this
can you explain this again - in more simpler way, like why is your method of investment better then this thread to start, thanks i am interested in this
Definitely use the DRIP to take advantage of the qualified dividend.
The yield on the ETF (or any security/treasury) reflects the yield if you buy at the current price - since the price of XHLF and SGOV doesn't really change the yield is a pretty accurate reflection of what you're currently earning
Definitely use the DRIP to take advantage of the qualified dividend.
The yield on the ETF (or any security/treasury) reflects the yield if you buy at the current price - since the price of XHLF and SGOV doesn't really change the yield is a pretty accurate reflection of what you're currently earning
Quick question re: the qualified dividend - if you are doing DRIP, is the "stock must be held for more than 60 days in the 121-day period that began 60 days before the ex-dividend date" requirement still applicable? In other words, when it comes time to liquidate, and say a dividend was just paid, do I need to wait until this requirement is met to avoid short-term cap gains? I'm thinking yes.
Whenever I want to connect UFB direct to my First Horizon bank account, it asks for the username and password of the First Horizon account. Is it safe to do so to transfer money? Highly appreciate your reply. Thanks.
Quick question re: the qualified dividend - if you are doing DRIP, is the "stock must be held for more than 60 days in the 121-day period that began 60 days before the ex-dividend date" requirement still applicable? In other words, when it comes time to liquidate, and say a dividend was just paid, do I need to wait until this requirement is met to avoid short-term cap gains? I'm thinking yes.
I just got my 1099/1098 for 2023 and I think you're correct - the stock must be held for 60 days prior to the dividend for the dividend to be considered qualified - upon sale you will pay short term cap gains (straight income tax) if the stock (including dividend reinvestment) is held for less than a year - which gives you the same exposure as having a high yield savings account - so all told I think high yield treasury ETFs are the better play because you avoid income tax on the interest if you hold more than a year and at worst you pay income tax on the interest if you need to liquidate
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The dollar limits at funding are:
Maximum to transfer in: $250,000.00
The dollar limits after your account is funded are:
Maximum per day in or out $30,000.00
Maximum per month $60,000.00
You may not make funds transfers in excess of limits described on the External Bank Transfer service.
We reserve the right to change from time to time the dollar amount of funds transfers you are permitted to make using our service.
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So basically, this is a great account for folks willing to call them on their BS. Apparently enough customers don't do that to make it worthwhile for them to play games like this.
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Effective tax rate on interest income is my effective tax rate.. no more no less than what I think 😂
I was just surprised that someone at 50% tax rate would associate with us SD peasants.
Income over $243,725 is 35% federal income tax, 3.8% ACA net income tax, 6.85% New York State, 3.876% New York City = 49.526% (50%)
California taxes income above $66k at 9.3%, Wyoming taxes income above $60k at 8.5%
The are 9 states with income tax which with tax rates less than ~5% they are AZ, CO, IN, KY, LA, MI, ND, OH, and PN -
7 states have no income tax: AK, FL, NV, SD, TN, TX, NH
Income over $243,725 is 35% federal income tax, 3.8% ACA net income tax, 6.85% New York State, 3.876% New York City = 49.526% (50%)
California taxes income above $66k at 9.3%, Wyoming taxes income above $60k at 8.5%
The are 9 states with income tax which with tax rates less than ~5% they are AZ, CO, IN, KY, LA, MI, ND, OH, and PN -
7 states have no income tax: AK, FL, NV, SD, TN, TX, NH
No one making $300k should be paying anything close to 50% in taxes. I'd say ~$1m salary is when you get close to 50% net.
No one making $300k should be paying anything close to 50% in taxes. I'd say ~$1m salary is when you get close to 50% net.
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State Income Tax Marginal Tax Rates [taxfoundation.org]
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What timeframe/reference are you basing the 4.49% yield on? I've been using the following for XHLF 30-day:
https://bondbloxxetf.co
https://bondbloxxetf.co
It was as high as 5.31% on Nov 1 and Dec 1, then 5.2%% on 1/1, and 5.10% on Feb 1. Now it's dipped just under 5% for the first time since late May. I'm hoping that my winners keep on running while I continue to move my losers into XHLF (and now SGOV!), but I don't have my hopes up too high.
And, I'm now officially into SGOV with 90% of my fixed income. Thanks for the recommendation!
What timeframe/reference are you basing the 4.49% yield on? I've been using the following for XHLF 30-day:
https://bondbloxxetf.co
https://bondbloxxetf.co
It was as high as 5.31% on Nov 1 and Dec 1, then 5.2%% on 1/1, and 5.10% on Feb 1. Now it's dipped just under 5% for the first time since late May. I'm hoping that my winners keep on running while I continue to move my losers into XHLF (and now SGOV!), but I don't have my hopes up too high.
And, I'm now officially into SGOV with 90% of my fixed income. Thanks for the recommendation!
can you explain this again - in more simpler way, like why is your method of investment better then this thread to start, thanks i am interested in this
The yield on the ETF (or any security/treasury) reflects the yield if you buy at the current price - since the price of XHLF and SGOV doesn't really change the yield is a pretty accurate reflection of what you're currently earning
The yield on the ETF (or any security/treasury) reflects the yield if you buy at the current price - since the price of XHLF and SGOV doesn't really change the yield is a pretty accurate reflection of what you're currently earning
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