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So now we have two i5-13400f / RTX 4060 builds to compare: this one and the $1000 CyberPowerPC from Costco. The extra $150 buy you twice the RAM (DDR5 instead of DDR4 too) and twice the storage (32GB DDR5 + 2TB SSD). Plus Costco's support/warranty.
My take: Neither one is really a deal at these prices. With the Costco deal being $1000 regular price, this config shouldn't cost a penny over $850 anyway. And even then I'd just wait for the Costco PC to go on sale.
The visual settings on xbsx or s are equivalent to running it on low on your pc. My 3070ti barely gets 55 frames out of this game(on high). On medium I get about 75 constant. 1440p
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You missed the boat entirely on this one when you talk about "waiting for deals". This is a prebuilt that's ready and on sale right now, not in 2-4 weeks when you amass enough deals to have a complete computer.
Also, if you aren't including a Windows license or factoring your time in all of this, it's a non-starter. Not even worth discussing.
I'm not averse to pirating/getting around licenses or assembling a system (with better care taken than you'd find in any prebuilt), but these are still concerns and factors everyone should account for when they budget out a system.
Do I want to worry about Microsoft hounding me or restricting me from future updates and features because I cheaped out on a $50 ($20 or less if you shop around) Windows license instead of getting an OEM one for free? And the limited time I get to play games must now be devoted to hunting for parts and assembling a system with no ETA on when it will be complete?
Moreover, the system you parted out is nonsensical with a very limited upgrade path. You did exactly what I said would have to happen and skimped a little on the case and PSU. What I didn't account for was skimping on the NVME.
Yep, no one posting on slickdeals would wait for a deal, you got me there. Half of the stuff I listed is still for sale, and others you can likely find equivalents right now.
The case, power supply, and NVME are better than what you will get in this deal. They are cheap units, but better than what you got here.
Upgradability on the components I selected are equal or better, not to mention the CPU/memory/MB are many steps above this pre-built. This computer is stuck with DDR4, no integrated graphics, no overclock capability, marginal PSU (NVIDIA suggests 650W for 4060), B660 motherboard, and no-name components for nearly everything. (case, psu, memory, ssd, cooler, etc) I would not even consider purchasing this mess with the alternatives available.
You can install Windows 11 for free, just like 10, indefinitely, even without getting a cheap OEM license.
Have fun with your computer that has no warranty that was built by the inexperienced cheap labor they could find. If you build yourself all components will come with manufacturer warranty, most components will have 3+ years. I already said building yourself is not for everyone, but it easier than people think and you are often getting fleeced with a prebuilt, like this "deal" promoted by slickdeals.
Last edited by scraejtp September 9, 2023 at 05:26 PM.
This isn't very slick if you know what you're doing and know how to build, it's par for the course in terms of parts and prices. You'd likely find better sales on individual prices with better quality and support for each respective part versus tunneling any and all support/warranty through Skytech directly. Though some folks would argue consolidating to a single point is less of a headache versus running inventory tracking for each respective manufacturer warranty per part.
If you're not interested in building, let alone going through the time and effort to source each part, then honestly, this is a pretty good deal. Ready to go, plug and play. Nice low-mid starter to get you in the door.
It is literally the best time of year to buy a computer. Facts.
It was...years ago. Now it is just a period of time retail prices are raised just to lower again so it appears something is discounted because non-savvy consumers have the perception the deals are limited time only and that big % off sign actually mean something.
Best time to buy a computer actually tends to be 'back to school' sales (and many states offer tax free holidays at the same time). Actual facts.
Yeah it'll run starfield but the game runs better on AMD cards, (their cheaper too) for example the 7900xtx runs the game better than a 4090 which is significantly more expensive. My pc is a 6750xt (gpu) with a 5600x (cpu) and it's awesome I hit well over 60fps (120+ in most interiors) at 1080p in everywhere except cities which doesn't bother me as I'm not in cities for a long time anyway. I'd look for a pc with an AMD card with more than 8 gigs of VRAM for starfield. Anything 6600xt and up is good to run it but I wouldn't go lower than that. You could probably find a 6700xt prebuilt nowadays with some digging around at this price ~$850ish.
As an enthusiast and PC builder, if the individual parts equal this, and it comes with windows your time about $100-200 was saved just buy the build. Most of you aren't going to optimize anything beyond stock and difference will be minimal. If you enjoy and have time building, then sure have it you'll gain a little bit out of it for the same price.
Yep, no one posting on slickdeals would wait for a deal, you got me there. Half of the stuff I listed is still for sale, and others you can likely find equivalents right now.
The case, power supply, and NVME are better than what you will get in this deal. They are cheap units, but better than what you got here.
Upgradability on the components I selected are equal or better, not to mention the CPU/memory/MB are many steps above this pre-built. This computer is stuck with DDR4, no integrated graphics, no overclock capability, marginal PSU (NVIDIA suggests 650W for 4060), B660 motherboard, and no-name components for nearly everything. (case, psu, memory, ssd, cooler, etc) I would not even consider purchasing this mess with the alternatives available.
You can install Windows 11 for free, just like 10, indefinitely, even without getting a cheap OEM license.
Have fun with your computer that has no warranty that was built by the inexperienced cheap labor they could find. If you build yourself all components will come with manufacturer warranty, most components will have 3+ years. I already said building yourself is not for everyone, but it easier than people think and you are often getting fleeced with a prebuilt, like this "deal" promoted by slickdeals.
Again, you can buy this assembled TODAY.
The same cannot be said for deal hunting, unless you buy EXACTLY what you listed based on what's on sale.
As for the components you chose, how exactly do you plan to upgrade when you've selected a very meager PSU and the best component to upgrade would be the graphics card?
And does DDR5 really matter when you've selected an NVME drive that barely pulls over 5Gbps reads?
Moreover, to restate: You can't (legally) get Windows for free, unless you buy a prebuilt. Don't be pedantic and say it's technically bypassing the licensing through an exploit. It's still theft.
And unless you know of some Slickdeal, your time is also not free.
If you aren't factoring those two things into the final cost of your system, you're not being honest with how much it actually costs.
The same cannot be said for deal hunting, unless you buy EXACTLY what you listed based on what's on sale.
As for the components you chose, how exactly do you plan to upgrade when you've selected a very meager PSU and the best component to upgrade would be the graphics card?
And does DDR5 really matter when you've selected an NVME drive that barely pulls over 5Gbps reads?
Moreover, to restate: You can't (legally) get Windows for free, unless you buy a prebuilt. Don't be pedantic and say it's technically bypassing the licensing through an exploit. It's still theft.
And unless you know of some Slickdeal, your time is also not free.
If you aren't factoring those two things into the final cost of your system, you're not being honest with how much it actually costs.
The PSU I chose is 150w larger than the PC listed, how is that not more upgradability? It is enough for the next tier of GPU (4070/4070ti) and should be for the next generation as well.
Also memory speed is not related to NVME drive speed, so not sure where you are going there.
Install Windows 10/11 with the official download from Microsoft, and it will work with nothing else. Hardly an exploit.
This is a low quality prebuilt, and people should be looking out for when prebuilts are offering a value at least equal to the summation of the parts. This one is not terrible for the price, but your argument that you can not do better is delusional and you do not back down even when evidence is in front of you.
Think I will leave it there, anyone else reading can make their decision with the information provided, which is all my post was trying to do. Better stop posting in this thread, my time is going to waste.
Last edited by scraejtp September 10, 2023 at 10:33 AM.
As an enthusiast and PC builder, if the individual parts equal this, and it comes with windows your time about $100-200 was saved just buy the build. Most of you aren't going to optimize anything beyond stock and difference will be minimal. If you enjoy and have time building, then sure have it you'll gain a little bit out of it for the same price.
You can practically build a 7600/6700XT for roughly $900 and that'll smack the shizz out of this.
How does this system compare to a PS5 in terms of graphics, load times, etc.? I have a 9 year old who is really wanting a gaming PC sometime soon, but I keep telling him his PS5 is more than enough. Am I wrong? He uses keyboard and mouse with the PS5 at times, but the YT gamers have him convinced he "needs" a PC.
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Cpu 200
CPU Fan 30
GPU 300
Case 50
Case Fan 20
MB 120
Ram 40
Disk 50
Psu 60
Windows 20
total = 890
My take: Neither one is really a deal at these prices. With the Costco deal being $1000 regular price, this config shouldn't cost a penny over $850 anyway. And even then I'd just wait for the Costco PC to go on sale.
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Cpu 200
CPU Fan 30
GPU 300
Case 50
Case Fan 20
MB 120
Ram 40
Disk 50
Psu 60
Windows 20
total = 890
Also, if you aren't including a Windows license or factoring your time in all of this, it's a non-starter. Not even worth discussing.
I'm not averse to pirating/getting around licenses or assembling a system (with better care taken than you'd find in any prebuilt), but these are still concerns and factors everyone should account for when they budget out a system.
Do I want to worry about Microsoft hounding me or restricting me from future updates and features because I cheaped out on a $50 ($20 or less if you shop around) Windows license instead of getting an OEM one for free? And the limited time I get to play games must now be devoted to hunting for parts and assembling a system with no ETA on when it will be complete?
Moreover, the system you parted out is nonsensical with a very limited upgrade path. You did exactly what I said would have to happen and skimped a little on the case and PSU. What I didn't account for was skimping on the NVME.
Upgradability on the components I selected are equal or better, not to mention the CPU/memory/MB are many steps above this pre-built. This computer is stuck with DDR4, no integrated graphics, no overclock capability, marginal PSU (NVIDIA suggests 650W for 4060), B660 motherboard, and no-name components for nearly everything. (case, psu, memory, ssd, cooler, etc) I would not even consider purchasing this mess with the alternatives available.
You can install Windows 11 for free, just like 10, indefinitely, even without getting a cheap OEM license.
Have fun with your computer that has no warranty that was built by the inexperienced cheap labor they could find. If you build yourself all components will come with manufacturer warranty, most components will have 3+ years. I already said building yourself is not for everyone, but it easier than people think and you are often getting fleeced with a prebuilt, like this "deal" promoted by slickdeals.
AMD GPUs punch above their class in this game, a lot of the difference between mid range PCs and the consoles comes down to the CPUs
We'd all still be running Pentium 3's with this strategy
If you're not interested in building, let alone going through the time and effort to source each part, then honestly, this is a pretty good deal. Ready to go, plug and play. Nice low-mid starter to get you in the door.
We'd all still be running Pentium 3's with this strategy
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Best time to buy a computer actually tends to be 'back to school' sales (and many states offer tax free holidays at the same time). Actual facts.
https://www.xact.com/financial-ed...a-computer
FYI: Toyotathon isn't actually the best time to buy a car
Upgradability on the components I selected are equal or better, not to mention the CPU/memory/MB are many steps above this pre-built. This computer is stuck with DDR4, no integrated graphics, no overclock capability, marginal PSU (NVIDIA suggests 650W for 4060), B660 motherboard, and no-name components for nearly everything. (case, psu, memory, ssd, cooler, etc) I would not even consider purchasing this mess with the alternatives available.
You can install Windows 11 for free, just like 10, indefinitely, even without getting a cheap OEM license.
Have fun with your computer that has no warranty that was built by the inexperienced cheap labor they could find. If you build yourself all components will come with manufacturer warranty, most components will have 3+ years. I already said building yourself is not for everyone, but it easier than people think and you are often getting fleeced with a prebuilt, like this "deal" promoted by slickdeals.
The same cannot be said for deal hunting, unless you buy EXACTLY what you listed based on what's on sale.
As for the components you chose, how exactly do you plan to upgrade when you've selected a very meager PSU and the best component to upgrade would be the graphics card?
And does DDR5 really matter when you've selected an NVME drive that barely pulls over 5Gbps reads?
Moreover, to restate: You can't (legally) get Windows for free, unless you buy a prebuilt. Don't be pedantic and say it's technically bypassing the licensing through an exploit. It's still theft.
And unless you know of some Slickdeal, your time is also not free.
If you aren't factoring those two things into the final cost of your system, you're not being honest with how much it actually costs.
The same cannot be said for deal hunting, unless you buy EXACTLY what you listed based on what's on sale.
As for the components you chose, how exactly do you plan to upgrade when you've selected a very meager PSU and the best component to upgrade would be the graphics card?
And does DDR5 really matter when you've selected an NVME drive that barely pulls over 5Gbps reads?
Moreover, to restate: You can't (legally) get Windows for free, unless you buy a prebuilt. Don't be pedantic and say it's technically bypassing the licensing through an exploit. It's still theft.
And unless you know of some Slickdeal, your time is also not free.
If you aren't factoring those two things into the final cost of your system, you're not being honest with how much it actually costs.
Also memory speed is not related to NVME drive speed, so not sure where you are going there.
Install Windows 10/11 with the official download from Microsoft, and it will work with nothing else. Hardly an exploit.
This is a low quality prebuilt, and people should be looking out for when prebuilts are offering a value at least equal to the summation of the parts. This one is not terrible for the price, but your argument that you can not do better is delusional and you do not back down even when evidence is in front of you.
Think I will leave it there, anyone else reading can make their decision with the information provided, which is all my post was trying to do. Better stop posting in this thread, my time is going to waste.
7600 - $180
B650 - $120
6000 CL30 G. Skill X5 AMD EXPO $90
6700XT - $320
Thermalright Assassin King - $18
Or under $750
5600 - $130($100 all day long)
B550 - $85
3600 CL16 16GB - $44
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