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77” Samsung S89C OLED 4K UHD Smart Tizen TV + Samsung A Series 2.1.Ch Soundbar

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$2,000

$3,880

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Best Buy has 77" Samsung S89C OLED 4K UHD Smart Tizen TV (QN77S89CBFXZA) + Samsung A Series 2.1.ch Dolby & DTS Soundbar (HW-A445/ZA) on sale for $1999.99. Shipping is free to qualifying locations, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

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Specs/Key Features:
  • Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K UHD)
  • Refresh Rate: 120Hz
  • WiFi + Bluetooth 5.2
  • VESA Mount: 400mm x 300mm
  • FreeSync Premium (AMD Adaptive Sync)
  • Tizen Smart Platform
  • Motion Xcelerator Turbo Pro
  • Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant
    • Inputs
      • 4x HDMI
      • 2x USB

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Best Buy has 77" Samsung S89C OLED 4K UHD Smart Tizen TV (QN77S89CBFXZA) + Samsung A Series 2.1.ch Dolby & DTS Soundbar (HW-A445/ZA) on sale for $1999.99. Shipping is free to qualifying locations, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

Thanks to Deal Hunter PennyFound for finding this deal.

Specs/Key Features:
  • Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K UHD)
  • Refresh Rate: 120Hz
  • WiFi + Bluetooth 5.2
  • VESA Mount: 400mm x 300mm
  • FreeSync Premium (AMD Adaptive Sync)
  • Tizen Smart Platform
  • Motion Xcelerator Turbo Pro
  • Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant
    • Inputs
      • 4x HDMI
      • 2x USB

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madsci1016
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S90C with it's far superior QD panel can be had for $2091 on samsung.com with EPP (educators, AAA, work, etc) discount stacked with a certain cashback app. A month or so ago that was $1800, so not the best price right now. Still enough to not want this TV though.

EDIT EDIT EDIT This appears to be gen 2 QD as now a screenshot of the service has been posted. Below is old info.

EDIT EDIT: This TV is a mystery. We only know for sure the original press release said WOLED by LG, then when it hit shelves, "Quantum" was quietly added to the item description. No independent testing has been done yet, but Rtings got one delivered Dec 7. No official word from Samsung on what panel it is (chat reps don't count).

My theory (speculation) is these are previously never released 77" Gen 1 panels. Why?

1) Uses a bit more power per specs than an S90C (Gen 1 was less efficient than Gen 2)
2) Only comes in 77" size (the only size never released during Gen 1 fabrication)
3) Probably low production numbers since it's only sold at Best Buy (Gen 1 had low yield issues which Samsung cited as the reason for no 77" QD TVs at first.)
4) They named it S89C implying it's somehow inferior to the S90C in the same way the S90C is to the S95C.
5) It doesn't makes sense to basically sell a S90C under a new name if it's wasn't somehow different to justify the different model number.

Before i get another comment about "Samsung never made a 77" gen 1" no, they never *released* a 77" gen 1. There's a very important distinction there.
dperolio
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Again, one more time this is QD-OLED! Not WOLED!

I own this TV, the guy quoting months old articles that are talking about the EU version does not. Again, in EU it was WOLED, in NA it is QD-OLED.

Here is the Canadian spec sheet, which shows it is QD-OLED. https://www.samsung.com/ca/tvs/ol...s89cbfxzc/
madsci1016
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Wow, so maybe gen 2? 600+ is suppose to be gen 1 and 512 is suppose to be Gen 2 from my understanding? So 588?

Somewhere in between? Maybe these are underperforming gen 2 panels? Thats extremely likely given this finding.

No wait 512 is 65" It should be 588. Gen 2 confirmed. Buy away lads. Samsung was just drunk.

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Dec 09, 2023 10:35 PM
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Quote from johnsilva :
Hmmm trying to see if I should pull the trigger. How is this deal compared to the various EPP deals that come up? I have an older Samsung ks8000 65" and an old soundbar but they work fine so trying to decide if I should hold out or jump on it.
I have seen in several sites that the expectations are for the OLED market to go down in prices. One of the reasons is the big Hisense and TLC LED TVs which were a big hit this Black Friday, stealing sales from OLED and LED Sony, LG, and Samsung TVs.

The other reason is LG is losing money on their OLED branch to the point that they got a new executive to try to spin the OLED branch. It is expected that cuts will be done to the R&D and investment will be put to improve the utilization of their OLED factories and yield production. Hopefully this will translate in cheaper prices.

There are some improvements in production that might help reduce prices. This is all expectations, but if you have the time to wait and see what happens I would say wait. The MLA, QD, and XR Clear technologies this year in my opinion do show a significant improvement to the previous generations. While different between OLED and LED, the commonalities shared between these technologies will help spreadout the R&D burden between LED and OLED TVs, which should also help reduce prices for OLEDs.

Mini LED technology l will also help close the gap between OLEDs and LEDs (OLED still being better), but should put some pressure on the OLED prices.

My guess is that OLED will start competing with affordable prices at the 65in and 77in and push the crazy insane prices to 83in and above TVs and the 8K TVs.
Dec 09, 2023 11:42 PM
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ShrewdMarmot453Dec 09, 2023 11:42 PM
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Does anyone know if you could just return the sound bar to best with no receipt and get a gift card
Dec 10, 2023 01:13 AM
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AmitSx86Dec 10, 2023 01:13 AM
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Quote from htowngator :
Sure, if you have that kind of deal go for it.

I don't care for free install because I can do that with a neighbor.
I never assumed or asked if you cared about free installation. YOU asked me why I would go for S90c and I gave you my reasons.

Weird response, dude!
Dec 10, 2023 01:13 AM
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inslyxDec 10, 2023 01:13 AM
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Quote from ShrewdMarmot453 :
Does anyone know if you could just return the sound bar to best with no receipt and get a gift card
Nope.
Dec 10, 2023 04:41 AM
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johnsilvaDec 10, 2023 04:41 AM
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Quote from wbs3333 :
I have seen in several sites that the expectations are for the OLED market to go down in prices. One of the reasons is the big Hisense and TLC LED TVs which were a big hit this Black Friday, stealing sales from OLED and LED Sony, LG, and Samsung TVs.

The other reason is LG is losing money on their OLED branch to the point that they got a new executive to try to spin the OLED branch. It is expected that cuts will be done to the R&D and investment will be put to improve the utilization of their OLED factories and yield production. Hopefully this will translate in cheaper prices.

There are some improvements in production that might help reduce prices. This is all expectations, but if you have the time to wait and see what happens I would say wait. The MLA, QD, and XR Clear technologies this year in my opinion do show a significant improvement to the previous generations. While different between OLED and LED, the commonalities shared between these technologies will help spreadout the R&D burden between LED and OLED TVs, which should also help reduce prices for OLEDs.

Mini LED technology l will also help close the gap between OLEDs and LEDs (OLED still being better), but should put some pressure on the OLED prices.

My guess is that OLED will start competing with affordable prices at the 65in and 77in and push the crazy insane prices to 83in and above TVs and the 8K TVs.
Thank you for this information. That is very helpful.
Dec 10, 2023 02:22 PM
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nicksblackroushDec 10, 2023 02:22 PM
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We picked up one yesterday, and it's amazing. Thank you for all of the information in this thread that helped make the decision.

Question though, I went ahead and got the 5 year geek squad protection. I just can't shake the fact that I spent nearly 25% of the cost of the TV on it. I have 30 days to cancel, what are we thinking about the longevity of these? I really doubt burn in will be an issue for us.
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GaleZhangDec 10, 2023 02:38 PM
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Wow….
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warsawsDec 10, 2023 04:06 PM
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Digital Trends just posted a YouTube video saying the S89c is NOT QD OLED
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Dec 10, 2023 04:22 PM
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StrongDolphin161Dec 10, 2023 04:22 PM
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Quote from dperolio :
This is QD-OLED in NA, contrary to naysayers, and is basically identical to the S90C. Got one myself last week. Wondering if I contact Best Buy if they'll give me the soundbar retroactively as well.
I got the sound bar. It is so bad, I considered returning it even though it's free.
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Dealsprime440Dec 10, 2023 04:26 PM
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Quote from warsaws :
Digital Trends just posted a YouTube video saying the S89c is NOT QD OLED
Yeah cancelled order!
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Dec 10, 2023 04:33 PM
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JollySofa712Dec 10, 2023 04:33 PM
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Quote from dperolio :
This is QD-OLED in NA, contrary to naysayers, and is basically identical to the S90C. Got one myself last week. Wondering if I contact Best Buy if they'll give me the soundbar retroactively as well.
lol, oops.

https://youtu.be/gVNLwcrQ6zA?si=O6_zH_0jeXR4DaCD
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superslickzDec 10, 2023 04:40 PM
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Quote from warsaws :
Digital Trends just posted a YouTube video saying the S89c is NOT QD OLED
Quote from Dealsprime440 :
Yeah cancelled order!
And who made Digital Trends the definitive source for all things Samsung OLED?

With all of the confusion on this thread especially over NA vs Europe versions of this TV, I don't see any "proof" or info in that video that tells me for sure this panel is not QD-OLED. Just beause they say it's not doesn't mean it's not. It's not like he said he reached out to Samsung for clarification or they have a unit and tested it out looking at the pixel pattern (or however way you can truly tell between a WRLGB-OLED and QD-OLED).
Dec 10, 2023 04:41 PM
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superslickzDec 10, 2023 04:41 PM
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Quote from JollySofa712 :
lol, oops.

https://youtu.be/gVNLwcrQ6zA?si=O6_zH_0jeXR4DaCD
That video proves nothing. It's no more than anyone on here saying one way or another.
Dec 10, 2023 04:43 PM
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warsawsDec 10, 2023 04:43 PM
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Quote from superslickz :
And who made Digital Trends the definitive source for all things Samsung OLED?

With all of the confusion on this thread especially over NA vs Europe versions of this TV, I don't see any "proof" or info in that video that tells me for sure this panel is not QD-OLED. Just beause they say it's not doesn't mean it's not. It's not like he said he reached out to Samsung for clarification or they have a unit and tested it out looking at the pixel pattern (or however way you can truly tell between a WRLGB-OLED and QD-OLED).
Not sure how to respond to you….not sure where you started thinking they were the definitive source. However, I assure you that my post is accurate in what Digital Trends stated.
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warsawsDec 10, 2023 04:44 PM
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Quote from superslickz :
That video proves nothing. It's no more than anyone on here saying one way or another.
Again, who asserted this was proof? ( you brought the concept of proof up…)
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