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Dirac Live Bass Control for Denon AVR-X3800H / AVC-X3800H (Digital License)
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Dirac has Dirac Live Bass Control for Denon AVR-X3800H / AVC-X3800H (Digital Licenses) on sale as listed below when you apply discount coupon 30BCDM23 at checkout.
Note: Discount code does not apply to individual 'Room Correction' licenses.
Thanks to Community Member undisturbed316 for finding this deal.
Available (prices after discount coupon):
Note: Discount code does not apply to individual 'Room Correction' licenses.
Thanks to Community Member undisturbed316 for finding this deal.
Available (prices after discount coupon):
- Dirac Live Bass Control Single Subwoofer $228.85
- Dirac Live Bass Control Multi Subwoofer $327.21
- Upgrade an existing Bass Control Single Subwoofer license to Multi Subwoofer $110.82
- Bundle Offer $425.57
- Room Correction Full Bandwidth
- Bass Control Single Subwoofer
- Bundle Offer Multi $523.94
- Room Correction Full Bandwidth
- Bass Control Multi Subwoofer
- Corrects sound gaps and bass decline
- Enhances bass crossover area for smoother reproduction
- Utilizes machine learning for phase co-optimization and supports one or multiple subwoofer (depending on license)
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Written by citan359 | Staff- About this deal:
- Offer valid through January 15th, 2024
- Please note that measurement microphone is not included in the software purchase.
- About this product:
- Windows 10 or macOS 10.14 Mojave, 10.15 Catalina, or newer required
- Additional Note:
- Please refer to the Forum Thread for additional discussion regarding this deal.
- Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
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Dirac has Dirac Live Bass Control for Denon AVR-X3800H / AVC-X3800H (Digital Licenses) on sale as listed below when you apply discount coupon 30BCDM23 at checkout.
Note: Discount code does not apply to individual 'Room Correction' licenses.
Thanks to Community Member undisturbed316 for finding this deal.
Available (prices after discount coupon):
Note: Discount code does not apply to individual 'Room Correction' licenses.
Thanks to Community Member undisturbed316 for finding this deal.
Available (prices after discount coupon):
- Dirac Live Bass Control Single Subwoofer $228.85
- Dirac Live Bass Control Multi Subwoofer $327.21
- Upgrade an existing Bass Control Single Subwoofer license to Multi Subwoofer $110.82
- Bundle Offer $425.57
- Room Correction Full Bandwidth
- Bass Control Single Subwoofer
- Bundle Offer Multi $523.94
- Room Correction Full Bandwidth
- Bass Control Multi Subwoofer
- Corrects sound gaps and bass decline
- Enhances bass crossover area for smoother reproduction
- Utilizes machine learning for phase co-optimization and supports one or multiple subwoofer (depending on license)
Editor's Notes
Written by citan359 | Staff- About this deal:
- Offer valid through January 15th, 2024
- Please note that measurement microphone is not included in the software purchase.
- About this product:
- Windows 10 or macOS 10.14 Mojave, 10.15 Catalina, or newer required
- Additional Note:
- Please refer to the Forum Thread for additional discussion regarding this deal.
- Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
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If you find evidence that they do give you a no hassle 30 day period to see if it improves your correction beyond what Audyssey MultiEQ X32 + the $20 Audyssey app can do, post the link here to let us know.
For me, if that company isn't willing to let you see if it's worth the money, it's a bad policy. It's not like they have to absorb return shipping costs or resell a discounted used product.
Seems to me you could use bass control as a standalone if you only want it tuning your subs, or go with the live + the multi-sub license if you want it doing everything in a multi-sub system. I've always been happy with XT32 but want to give Dirac a try because there seems at least some agreement that is superior. I missed the BF deals on full-bandwith but though somewhere in the ~$250 - 300 range might be worth a shot. XT32 does handle 2 subs, but not to the complexity that the multi-sub Dirac bass control is described to.
I'm probably oversimplifying this but based on the descriptions, to me it seems:
For a no sub or 1 sub system - Dirac full bandwidth is arguably superior to XT32.
For a 2 sub system - XT32 is arguably superior to Dirac full bandwidth alone. Dirac FB + multi-sub bass control would be superior to XT32.
I'm really struggling with seeing the value of Dirac bass control for a single sub, except as a standalone product where you only want sub calibration. Maybe that's the point?
But for me, the $799 package to cover multi-sub systems... I'm not doing that. I'd rather wait until my next AVR upgrade to see how their market / built-in options pan out. Not saying it isn't worth it, but $800 is far too big of a gamble to me to try it. Maybe if the licenses were transferable at least once or twice maybe, but locked to one AVR? Nah.
All mid-to-high tier receivers will have basic speaker distance correction. So you can take a tape measure and tell the speaker how far each channel is. That will give you a pretty good (not perfect) timing delay. But then, you modern high end receiver also mostly likely has some free flavor of room correction software. That will do 90% of what Dirac does.
Dirac does three things on top of all else: it flattens each speaker's curve, chooses a good crossover, and adjusts the level of each speaker. Of all those, I'd argue adjusting the level is the most valuable feature. In my view, you're paying $100's more to get the level correct out of each speaker on top of what you can do for free. Is that worth it?
I'll go a step further. I did my own calibration on a new Onkyo receiver, listened to it for a few weeks, and then did a Dirac calibration. Dirac nailed all 5 speakers, but completely underpowered the sub no matter how hard I tried. I just don't think I'd pay so much $$ out of pocket on top of the brilliant Marantz / Denon / Pioneer etc capabilities that come free with the receiver.
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All mid-to-high tier receivers will have basic speaker distance correction. So you can take a tape measure and tell the speaker how far each channel is. That will give you a pretty good (not perfect) timing delay. But then, you modern high end receiver also mostly likely has some free flavor of room correction software. That will do 90% of what Dirac does.
Dirac does three things on top of all else: it flattens each speaker's curve, chooses a good crossover, and adjusts the level of each speaker. Of all those, I'd argue adjusting the level is the most valuable feature. In my view, you're paying $100's more to get the level correct out of each speaker on top of what you can do for free. Is that worth it?
I'll go a step further. I did my own calibration on a new Onkyo receiver, listened to it for a few weeks, and then did a Dirac calibration. Dirac nailed all 5 speakers, but completely underpowered the sub no matter how hard I tried. I just don't think I'd pay so much $$ out of pocket on top of the brilliant Marantz / Denon / Pioneer etc capabilities that come free with the receiver.
All mid-to-high tier receivers will have basic speaker distance correction. So you can take a tape measure and tell the speaker how far each channel is. That will give you a pretty good (not perfect) timing delay. But then, you modern high end receiver also mostly likely has some free flavor of room correction software. That will do 90% of what Dirac does.
Dirac does three things on top of all else: it flattens each speaker's curve, chooses a good crossover, and adjusts the level of each speaker. Of all those, I'd argue adjusting the level is the most valuable feature. In my view, you're paying $100's more to get the level correct out of each speaker on top of what you can do for free. Is that worth it?
I'll go a step further. I did my own calibration on a new Onkyo receiver, listened to it for a few weeks, and then did a Dirac calibration. Dirac nailed all 5 speakers, but completely underpowered the sub no matter how hard I tried. I just don't think I'd pay so much $$ out of pocket on top of the brilliant Marantz / Denon / Pioneer etc capabilities that come free with the receiver.
For everything with two plus subwoofers on a Denon receiver, that looks like $799 retail if you buy them bundled at the same time. More of you buy them separately.
https://www.dirac.com/online-stor...vc-x3800h/
Then, there's Dirac Live Active Room Treatment, which is exclusively on Storm Audio ($$$) equipment at the moment but will come to other companies. It's currently $299.
https://www.dirac.com/live/dirac-...treatment/
Here's the info on the two subwoofer (bass control) tiers:
https://www.dirac.com/live/bass-c...management.
1st DL does not include their sub/bass RC integration(DLBC).
If you read Dirac's description of what DLBC offers in that link you will get a good understanding of its benefits, it is not just marketing.
I would add if you consider how much bass management and its integration plays in a well implemented system, should give you the importance of it.
People often say you can just calibrate your subs(and whole system) and you're good.
Yes with A LOT of time, learning, some extra cost you can calibrate where you're happy.
Is it the "same" as DL/DLBC, I have to agree with Dirac.
It's nearly impossible to do as good a job as their algorithms, imo not even comparable.
So is Dirac worth the extra cost over XT32 + Editor App, it depends on many things but ultimately comes down to how well versed/comfortable you are with Audyssey.
Both well implemented they are pretty comparable especially if you exclude DLBC. Imo DLBC pushes Dirac ahead.
Like people often say about DL vs DLBC, you can be happy with XT32 + Editor App
and not need to purchase DL and or DLBC.
Especially since you don't lose sub/bass integration with XT32.
As a matter of fact you gain another one called directional integration.
The great thing is Denon(Marantz ) gives you both options and you don't have to pay for Dirac unless you want to!
Personally(& several others I know), I/we weren't going to get Dirac until/without DLBC.
I will admit I/we aren't as worried about a budget but getting the best RC.
Dirac(DL/DLBC) is one of them and $560 for both is a really good price/investment for it imo!
Had there been a Processor a few years back that offered what the 3800/4800 offers for $900/$1299 and could add both DL/DLBC for $560, I would have jumped on it in a heartbeat!
Hopefully some find this "helpful information", just thought I'd give my opinion on this!
Glad it came early! 👍🏻
$560 for both Dirac Live and Dirac Live Bass Control is a great price imo!
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I'm going to return the Yamaha rx-a4a that I bought
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I've heard so many good things about the dual sub version of DIRAC that I want to give it a try.
I've heard so many good things about the dual sub version of DIRAC that I want to give it a try.
I've heard so many good things about the dual sub version of DIRAC that I want to give it a try.
If there was a good time to try/get Dirac this is it.
Btw have you tried directional sub integration on the 4800?
If there was a good time to try/get Dirac this is it.
Btw have you tried directional sub integration on the 4800?
However, it lets you buy a trial for $0, but doesn't guarantee your 30% off for the paid subscription. You have to separately buy the bundle and use the discount code in a separate transaction (who knows how long this code will be active)
https://www.dirac.com/online-stor...ion-suite/
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