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expirediconian | Staff posted Dec 22, 2023 8:52 PM

Definitive Technology Demand Speakers: D17 Floorstanding (Pair)

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Adorama has select Definitive Technology Demand Speakers on sale below. Shipping is free.

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Available:About the D17 Floorstanding Speakers:
  • Driver Enclosure Type: MDF cabinet with extruded natural bead-blasted aluminum front baffle
  • Driver Complement:
    • 1x 1" (2.54 cm) d (Round) Annealed Aluminum Dome and Laterally Offset - Tweeter
    • 1x) 6.5" (16.51 cm) d (Round) Polypropylene BDSS Bass - Midrange
    • 2x 6.5" (16.51 cm) d (Round) Carbonfiber Woofer - Mid/Woofer
    • 2x 10" (25.4 cm) d (Round) Side-firing, passive - Bass Radiator
  • Total Frequency Response: 38 Hz → 24,000 Hz
  • Nominal Impedance: 8 ohms
  • Sensitivity (1 watt @ 1 meter): 87 dB
  • Lower and Upper -3dB Limits: 42 Hz → 22,000 Hz
  • Speaker Inputs: (Set) 5-Way Binding Posts - Gold-Plated
  • Recommended Amplifier Power Per Channel: 40 watts → 300 watts

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  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
  • About this Deal:
    • This price for the D17 Floorstanding Speakers is $100 Lower than our recent FP Deal.
    • The D17 Floorstanding Speakers are rated 4.8 out of 5 stars from customer reviews.
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that the D17 Floorstanding Speakers are $1,050.99 lower than the next lowest available prices starting from $1,749.99. 

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Adorama has select Definitive Technology Demand Speakers on sale below. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for sharing this deal.

Available:About the D17 Floorstanding Speakers:
  • Driver Enclosure Type: MDF cabinet with extruded natural bead-blasted aluminum front baffle
  • Driver Complement:
    • 1x 1" (2.54 cm) d (Round) Annealed Aluminum Dome and Laterally Offset - Tweeter
    • 1x) 6.5" (16.51 cm) d (Round) Polypropylene BDSS Bass - Midrange
    • 2x 6.5" (16.51 cm) d (Round) Carbonfiber Woofer - Mid/Woofer
    • 2x 10" (25.4 cm) d (Round) Side-firing, passive - Bass Radiator
  • Total Frequency Response: 38 Hz → 24,000 Hz
  • Nominal Impedance: 8 ohms
  • Sensitivity (1 watt @ 1 meter): 87 dB
  • Lower and Upper -3dB Limits: 42 Hz → 22,000 Hz
  • Speaker Inputs: (Set) 5-Way Binding Posts - Gold-Plated
  • Recommended Amplifier Power Per Channel: 40 watts → 300 watts

Editor's Notes

Written by citan359 | Staff
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
  • About this Deal:
    • This price for the D17 Floorstanding Speakers is $100 Lower than our recent FP Deal.
    • The D17 Floorstanding Speakers are rated 4.8 out of 5 stars from customer reviews.
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that the D17 Floorstanding Speakers are $1,050.99 lower than the next lowest available prices starting from $1,749.99. 

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Dec 28, 2023 3:59 PM
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LovelySparrow901Dec 28, 2023 3:59 PM
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Quote from highvoltage12v :
I have a D15 speaker come with a D17 stand. Adorama wanted me to send the whole set back. But I went though Definitive support and they are shipping me a new stand. Yes I agree the squeaky wheel get the grease. I'm not complaining about these speakers. For the price I think they are very nice. The finish is beautiful.
Bought the D17 and D15. I think they need a break in time. The woofers are stiff. My JBL studio 530's and Kef Q150's also needed a break in period.
Speaker break is a very controversial topic. Ever wonder why no speakers ever sound "worse" after break in? Magically, they only ever sound "better". Some speaker manufacturers and designers will say break in is mostly a psychological effect. Ever wonder why a speaker that supposedly "changes" so much physically in the first 50-100 hrs of use reaches some magical spot where it sounds "better", but yet doesn't continue to "change" for every 50-100 hours of use, continuing to change its sound to the point where after a year or two of use it sounds completely different? Most ppl that try to prove speaker break in with measurements will use subwoofers that have VERY stiff spiders and surrounds. The woofers used in most full range speakers are no where near as stiff as those subwoofers. And most of the changes ppl find in the measurements of stiff woofers before and after "break in" are usually within the manufacturers "margin of error" of their published specs, not to mention that many times the "changes" after break in are often heat related and change yet again after the woofer goes back to room temperature.
Speaker break in is akin to bi-wiring speakers. Inaudible "theory" supported by anecdotes and confirmation bias.
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Dec 28, 2023 8:11 PM
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EricLikesDealsDec 28, 2023 8:11 PM
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
Speaker break is a very controversial topic. Ever wonder why no speakers ever sound "worse" after break in? Magically, they only ever sound "better". Some speaker manufacturers and designers will say break in is mostly a psychological effect. Ever wonder why a speaker that supposedly "changes" so much physically in the first 50-100 hrs of use reaches some magical spot where it sounds "better", but yet doesn't continue to "change" for every 50-100 hours of use, continuing to change its sound to the point where after a year or two of use it sounds completely different? Most ppl that try to prove speaker break in with measurements will use subwoofers that have VERY stiff spiders and surrounds. The woofers used in most full range speakers are no where near as stiff as those subwoofers. And most of the changes ppl find in the measurements of stiff woofers before and after "break in" are usually within the manufacturers "margin of error" of their published specs, not to mention that many times the "changes" after break in are often heat related and change yet again after the woofer goes back to room temperature.
Speaker break in is akin to bi-wiring speakers. Inaudible "theory" supported by anecdotes and confirmation bias.
Enough of your excuses! Tell your employer to lower the price to $499 and I'll take this junk off your hands and save you a trip to the dump!
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Dec 29, 2023 2:12 AM
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gatorglennDec 29, 2023 2:12 AM
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Thanks for the tip, I figured it out Wink

How to get it?
Dec 29, 2023 2:17 AM
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cueball13Dec 29, 2023 2:17 AM
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
You ever heard of "squeaky wheel gets the grease"? Ppl are waaaaay more likely to complain rather than praise any given product, therefore you are always more likely to see negative comments. Same with things like "feedback" for sellers on eBay. Ppl assume the transaction will go smoothly and the product will work as advertised, so when it does just that, they just get on with using the product and rarely feel the need to comment on it, BUT when it something goes wrong, that is when the comments start.
But why is that more true for these than any other speaker on the market?
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Dec 29, 2023 2:40 AM
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LovelySparrow901Dec 29, 2023 2:40 AM
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Quote from cueball13 :
But why is that more true for these than any other speaker on the market?
Oh wow. I'd love to see your data on that. Please post it.
Adorama reviews are 4.8 with 11 reviews.
Best Buy reviews are 5 star with 3 reviews.
Amazon reviews are 3.9 with 6 reviews, and the one 1 star rating that ruins what would be 5 stars isn't even a "review".
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Dec 29, 2023 4:24 AM
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cueball13Dec 29, 2023 4:24 AM
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
Oh wow. I'd love to see your data on that. Please post it.
Adorama reviews are 4.8 with 11 reviews.
Best Buy reviews are 5 star with 3 reviews.
Amazon reviews are 3.9 with 6 reviews, and the one 1 star rating that ruins what would be 5 stars isn't even a "review".
What in the world kind of point are you even trying to make?
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Dec 29, 2023 6:01 AM
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EricLikesDealsDec 29, 2023 6:01 AM
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Quote from cueball13 :
What in the world kind of point are you even trying to make?
it's code for they have 1k left and they will lower the price next week.
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Dec 29, 2023 3:35 PM
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LovelySparrow901Dec 29, 2023 3:35 PM
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Quote from cueball13 :
What in the world kind of point are you even trying to make?
Lol. I'm saying if you spend enough time reading forums on any topic you'll find lots of complaints about everything. That's where people go to problem solve. It isn't necessarily an accurate representation of the totality of experiences by everyone that bought a particular product.
You ever notice how the news focuses on negative things that happened that day? Is that representative of the totality of experiences of EVERYONE? No.

What's your point?
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Dec 29, 2023 3:39 PM
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LovelySparrow901Dec 29, 2023 3:39 PM
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Quote from EricLikesDeals :
it's code for they have 1k left and they will lower the price next week.
What are these now? 75% off? I suspect the high MSRP and somewhat unconventional aesthetics turned a lot of buyers away. If you want nearly full range towers with a neutral sound and passive radiators instead of chuffing ports, these are the deal of the year (or past several years).
I disconnected my SVS subs and watched a bunch of content over the last week or so. Me and my guests were totally content with the sound my pair of D15's made. I suspect the D17's are even better, they're just a little too big for my taste.
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Dec 29, 2023 4:21 PM
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EricLikesDealsDec 29, 2023 4:21 PM
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
What are these now? 75% off? I suspect the high MSRP and somewhat unconventional aesthetics turned a lot of buyers away. If you want nearly full range towers with a neutral sound and passive radiators instead of chuffing ports, these are the deal of the year (or past several years).
I disconnected my SVS subs and watched a bunch of content over the last week or so. Me and my guests were totally content with the sound my pair of D15's made. I suspect the D17's are even better, they're just a little too big for my taste.
I'm not going for content, I want their faces blown off! You just admitted the MSRP was was high, so 75% off that is meaningless. Make it $499 please. Also there are fanboys on the internet who say stuff is awesome, not just negative. I'm not trying to take food off your table by saying lower the price, but just trying give you some elbow room so you're not surrounded by 1k speakers. Unless you're shilling an amp that can run a thousand speakers at once.
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TsurugiDec 29, 2023 4:26 PM
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I got a pair of D15 and gave it to my cousin. It's a joke when comparing with my focal aria 926.
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LovelySparrow901Dec 29, 2023 7:00 PM
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Quote from EricLikesDeals :
Enough of your excuses! Tell your employer to lower the price to $499 and I'll take this junk off your hands and save you a trip to the dump!
Lol. Drive to the warehouse and throw some cash at them and maybe they'll give you the lot!
Either way, no speakers from any brand are gonna "break in" or otherwise "change" to the point of sounding different until many years down the road when they start to deteriorate to the point of needing repair. If worn in speakers actually sounded better than new speakers, used speakers would be worth more than they are. They're usually 50% less if you only used the for a few months. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why supposed break in never makes a speaker sound "worse"…only "better". Hmmm…🧐
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Dec 29, 2023 7:13 PM
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LovelySparrow901Dec 29, 2023 7:13 PM
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Quote from EricLikesDeals :
I'm not going for content, I want their faces blown off! You just admitted the MSRP was was high, so 75% off that is meaningless. Make it $499 please. Also there are fanboys on the internet who say stuff is awesome, not just negative. I'm not trying to take food off your table by saying lower the price, but just trying give you some elbow room so you're not surrounded by 1k speakers. Unless you're shilling an amp that can run a thousand speakers at once.
"You just admitted the MSRP was was high,"

Uh…hello???? LOTS of speakers have high msrp's. Duh. These are no different. Once you reach the $500-$1000 price point, the law of diminishing returns kicks into high gear on speakers. So what's your point?

So …the folks at audioholics and sound & vision and all the others that evaluate speakers, etc from ALL the brands and gave the Def Tech speaker excellent reviews at their HIGH MSRP (NOT $500/pair) did it because they are fanboys. Ahhh. Makes sense now! SMGDH! Lol.

PS…Adorama is ALWAYS selling AV gear in links through this website at huge discounts. The denon avr I just bought from them was almost half off MSRP.

Just stop with the EXCUSES and just admit you're cheap and want something for nothing ✌🏼
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Dec 29, 2023 7:17 PM
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sandolDec 29, 2023 7:17 PM
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
Lol. Drive to the warehouse and throw some cash at them and maybe they'll give you the lot!
Either way, no speakers from any brand are gonna "break in" or otherwise "change" to the point of sounding different until many years down the road when they start to deteriorate to the point of needing repair. If worn in speakers actually sounded better than new speakers, used speakers would be worth more than they are. They're usually 50% less if you only used the for a few months. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why supposed break in never makes a speaker sound "worse"…only "better".
A nice discussion on the topic of speaker burn-in:

https://youtu.be/PAA9SSsJbnI

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Dec 29, 2023 7:24 PM
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LovelySparrow901Dec 29, 2023 7:24 PM
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Quote from Tsurugi :
I got a pair of D15 and gave it to my cousin. It's a joke when comparing with my focal aria 926.
Those focals have a smiley face response and dip under 3 ohms in the bass. Not surprised you didn't like the neutral sounding Def Techs.

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