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expired Posted by SehoneyDP • Jan 18, 2024
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AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D + MSI Pro B650-S MB + 32GB G.Skill Flare X5 DDR5 6000 RAM
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The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu currently available, it's on average slightly faster than the 14900k in gaming while using on average 130w less power (total system usage) while gaming. The 7800x3d is an 8 core cpu which is sufficient for gaming for the next several years at least. The 7800x3d is not well suited as a productivity cpu, it's essentially a slower clocked and more efficient 7700x when used in most non-gaming tasks. The 7800x3d goes on sale as low as $340 from online retailers and as low as $300 from microcenter.
Hardware unboxed comparing the 7800x3d to the 14900k in gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KZQVfO-1Vg
Gamers nexus review of the 7800x3d including productivity benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B31PwSp
The msi pro b650-s motherboard seems to be a slightly cut down version of the msi pro b650-p motherboard which was available in microcenter's old version of their $500 7800x3d bundle. It's overall a lower-midrange b650 board with some of the standard compromises (no pcie gen5, only two m.2 slots, cheap realtek audio chip, less heatsink coverage, etc.) but should be sufficient for the average user. Pcie gen5 support won't matter for most users a few years at least. There have been complaints about slow boot times on msi b650 boards, supposedly newer bios updates have mitigated those issues to an extent, and memory context restore can be enabled without issue to drastically reduce boot times. A major advantage of building on the am5 platform is longevity, you'll be able to at minimum upgrade to a zen5 (and most likely zen6 as well) cpu while using the same motherboard and ram. The motherboard specs page can be found here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/P...cification
The ram in this bundle is something of a disappointment, being the standard cheap 32gb ddr5 6000 cl36 g.skill flare ram that most bundles (including microcenter's) contain. This ram uses samsung memory chips, which are all around worse than the hynix memory chips used in higher end memory, but are better than the micron chips used in very low end ddr5. Ram with samsung memory chips used to have major compatibility issues with the am5 platform, but bios updates have pretty much solved those issues by this point. The biggest current downside to using ram with samsung memory chips is the vastly inferior overclocking/manual tuning potential compared to hynix memory. If you'd just be sticking with base expo settings, then the performance difference with this ram compared to the recommended ddr5 6000 cl30 will be only a few percent on average in gaming at 1080p with a 4090. The reduced incidence of cache misses due to the massively increased L3 cache also play a role in reducing the impact. That being said, if you're willing to manually set timings, properly tuned hyinx ram would have a much larger performance delta compared to what you could achieve manually tuning the ram in this bundle.
Overall, if you don't live within driving distance of a microcenter and are looking to build an upper-midrange pc primarily for gaming, this is a good deal.
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The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu currently available, it's on average slightly faster than the 14900k in gaming while using on average 130w less power (total system usage) while gaming. The 7800x3d is an 8 core cpu which is sufficient for gaming for the next several years at least. The 7800x3d is not well suited as a productivity cpu, it's essentially a slower clocked and more efficient 7700x when used in most non-gaming tasks. The 7800x3d goes on sale as low as $340 from online retailers and as low as $300 from microcenter.
Hardware unboxed comparing the 7800x3d to the 14900k in gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KZQVfO-1Vg
Gamers nexus review of the 7800x3d including productivity benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B31PwSp
The msi pro b650-s motherboard seems to be a slightly cut down version of the msi pro b650-p motherboard which was available in microcenter's old version of their $500 7800x3d bundle. It's overall a lower-midrange b650 board with some of the standard compromises (no pcie gen5, only two m.2 slots, cheap realtek audio chip, less heatsink coverage, etc.) but should be sufficient for the average user. Pcie gen5 support won't matter for most users a few years at least. There have been complaints about slow boot times on msi b650 boards, supposedly newer bios updates have mitigated those issues to an extent, and memory context restore can be enabled without issue to drastically reduce boot times. A major advantage of building on the am5 platform is longevity, you'll be able to at minimum upgrade to a zen5 (and most likely zen6 as well) cpu while using the same motherboard and ram. The motherboard specs page can be found here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/P...cification
The ram in this bundle is something of a disappointment, being the standard cheap 32gb ddr5 6000 cl36 g.skill flare ram that most bundles (including microcenter's) contain. This ram uses samsung memory chips, which are all around worse than the hynix memory chips used in higher end memory, but are better than the micron chips used in very low end ddr5. Ram with samsung memory chips used to have major compatibility issues with the am5 platform, but bios updates have pretty much solved those issues by this point. The biggest current downside to using ram with samsung memory chips is the vastly inferior overclocking/manual tuning potential compared to hynix memory. If you'd just be sticking with base expo settings, then the performance difference with this ram compared to the recommended ddr5 6000 cl30 will be only a few percent on average in gaming at 1080p with a 4090. The reduced incidence of cache misses due to the massively increased L3 cache also play a role in reducing the impact. That being said, if you're willing to manually set timings, properly tuned hyinx ram would have a much larger performance delta compared to what you could achieve manually tuning the ram in this bundle.
Overall, if you don't live within driving distance of a microcenter and are looking to build an upper-midrange pc primarily for gaming, this is a good deal.
The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu currently available, it's on average slightly faster than the 14900k in gaming while using on average 130w less power (total system usage) while gaming. The 7800x3d is an 8 core cpu which is sufficient for gaming for the next several years at least. The 7800x3d is not well suited as a productivity cpu, it's essentially a slower clocked and more efficient 7700x when used in most non-gaming tasks. The 7800x3d goes on sale as low as $340 from online retailers and as low as $300 from microcenter.
Hardware unboxed comparing the 7800x3d to the 14900k in gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KZQVfO-1Vg
Gamers nexus review of the 7800x3d including productivity benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B31PwSp
The msi pro b650-s motherboard seems to be a slightly cut down version of the msi pro b650-p motherboard which was available in microcenter's old version of their $500 7800x3d bundle. It's overall a lower-midrange b650 board with some of the standard compromises (no pcie gen5, only two m.2 slots, cheap realtek audio chip, less heatsink coverage, etc.) but should be sufficient for the average user. Pcie gen5 support won't matter for most users a few years at least. There have been complaints about slow boot times on msi b650 boards, supposedly newer bios updates have mitigated those issues to an extent, and memory context restore can be enabled without issue to drastically reduce boot times. A major advantage of building on the am5 platform is longevity, you'll be able to at minimum upgrade to a zen5 (and most likely zen6 as well) cpu while using the same motherboard and ram. The motherboard specs page can be found here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/P...cification
The ram in this bundle is something of a disappointment, being the standard cheap 32gb ddr5 6000 cl36 g.skill flare ram that most bundles (including microcenter's) contain. This ram uses samsung memory chips, which are all around worse than the hynix memory chips used in higher end memory, but are better than the micron chips used in very low end ddr5. Ram with samsung memory chips used to have major compatibility issues with the am5 platform, but bios updates have pretty much solved those issues by this point. The biggest current downside to using ram with samsung memory chips is the vastly inferior overclocking/manual tuning potential compared to hynix memory. If you'd just be sticking with base expo settings, then the performance difference with this ram compared to the recommended ddr5 6000 cl30 will be only a few percent on average in gaming at 1080p with a 4090. The reduced incidence of cache misses due to the massively increased L3 cache also play a role in reducing the impact. That being said, if you're willing to manually set timings, properly tuned hyinx ram would have a much larger performance delta compared to what you could achieve manually tuning the ram in this bundle.
Overall, if you don't live within driving distance of a microcenter and are looking to build an upper-midrange pc primarily for gaming, this is a good deal.
The 7800x3d only has a single ccd, so it doesn't require said chipset driver. It can be without any performance impact on older operating systems such as windows 10, and the microsoft game bar is entirely unnecessary.
Is it worth upgrading for future proofing? Or should i wait for it to go lowerr since i dont play AAA Titles?
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There was a MSI AM5 motherboard slow boot issue last year(2023).
I didn't keep track of it.
Does anyone know if MSI fixed it? or what was the reason for the super slow boot?