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Pioneer Elite VSX-LX505 9.2-Channel 8K A/V Receiver

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Key Features:
  • Dirac Live Room Correction
  • HDMI 2.1
  • Ultimate 4K Gaming Experience
  • 9 Channels of onboard amplification with 11.2-Channel Processing
  • 120-watts/per channel
  • Imax Enhanced
  • Powered Zone 2/Zone 3 Audio
  • Bi-directional Bluetooth with aptX HD
Includes:
  • Pioneer Home Audio Elite VSX-LX505 120W 9.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver
  • RC-974R Remote Controller with 2x AAA Batteries
  • Speaker Setup Microphone
  • DAB/FM Antenna
  • Indoor FM Antenna
  • AM Loop Antenna
  • Power Cord
  • User Manual
  • Pioneer Home Audio 3 Year limited Warranty

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Update: This deal is still available.

Adorama has Pioneer Elite VSX-LX505 9.2-Channel 8K A/V Receiver on sale for $649. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for finding this deal.

Note: You may need to add to cart to see deal price.

Key Features:
  • Dirac Live Room Correction
  • HDMI 2.1
  • Ultimate 4K Gaming Experience
  • 9 Channels of onboard amplification with 11.2-Channel Processing
  • 120-watts/per channel
  • Imax Enhanced
  • Powered Zone 2/Zone 3 Audio
  • Bi-directional Bluetooth with aptX HD
Includes:
  • Pioneer Home Audio Elite VSX-LX505 120W 9.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver
  • RC-974R Remote Controller with 2x AAA Batteries
  • Speaker Setup Microphone
  • DAB/FM Antenna
  • Indoor FM Antenna
  • AM Loop Antenna
  • Power Cord
  • User Manual
  • Pioneer Home Audio 3 Year limited Warranty

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pracura
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I know there are a lot of fans of the Lx-505, the Onkyo, and the similar integra models. After months trying when they were all released I managed to get the Pioneer. I was replacing an x4100 Denon in a 5.1.4 setup. I built the room for high quality sound and to spec with Atmos, DTS-X, and Auro 3D.

I even bought the higher end tuning mic for Dirac and the special mic stand. I got deep into all of the tuning curves, laptop software, and all that jazz well before actually getting the receiver. For months I combed AV forums to get tips and expert advice.

In the end, in spite of days of tuning and tweaks, I returned the Pioneer. The Pioneer's sound was just flat compared to my older Denon. The 3 dimensions of sound were just 2D and too crisp. I thought for sure I got a defective Pioneer and after returning it, continued searching obsessively for any one of these three extremely similar models.

I was on the Crutchfield waitlist for a few months and finally got the Onkyo. I hooked it up. Did all the initial, standard calibration but got the exact same result. I did the curves and tweaked and tweaked. Things changed but never got close to my older Denon. Just flat sound that made me sad. I ended up returning the Onkyo too. It killed my soul.

So now I have the Denon x4700. It sounds amazing like my x4100 but a little better. The new Denon has some features my old Denon did not and that were critical at my house - having volume control on-screen and being able to turn everything on and off with a simple remote.

I'm not arguing with all the people who love these receivers. On paper they look awesome. My experience was less than awesome, but what pleases people's ears is ultimately a very personal experience and wanted to share mine.

That being said. This Pioneer is still a quality receiver and at this price definitely a slick deal. But I'll warn you not to invest as much time as I did trying to tweak it if you aren't impressed after your first calibration. Tweaking helped but in my case did not work out.
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Hard to imagine a 30 year AV hobbyist that never tried using external amps with an AVR.

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supermanrob
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Quote from BlownCamaro :
Ghost center. So, by eliminating the center channel, vocals actually come from the center of the display instead of below or above it. Huh. Wonder why more people don't do this? Smilie
Because to accomplish that properly is tricky, not easy to do and only beneficial in specific situations.

That's why getting a good center is crucial, much easier to configure and usually gives you overall better performance.
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LovelySparrow901Jan 29, 2024 09:10 PM
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Lol. Did ya'll realize we were performing such "trickery" ever since stereo was invented to be able to simply sit between a pair of speakers and hear a central "phantom" image created by a pair of speakers. I'll have to add that skill to my resume 🤣🤣🤣
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supermanrob
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FWIW listening to a pair of speakers in "stereo" is not the same as a "phantom" center image!
That's just the type of misinformation people have weed through in here! Facepalm
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BML6182
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Quote from supermanrob :
The 3400 is compatible with the Editor App.

As far as Dirac Live keep in mind it doesn't include their sub/bass integration.
Calibration and integration are not the same thing.
Integrating bass between your sub(s) and all your speakers manually is possible but it is daunting.
In the end it may not be a good as a good RC algorithm like DLBC.
So that 85%-90% will vary widely across the board.

I agree if you have access to Editor App, upgrading for just Dirac Live & DLBC doesn't make good financial sense.
A well implemented system should be comparable especially for the price.

BTW if you use MultiEQ-X you won't need the MiniDSP, so it saves you there also.
Thanks for the info Rob, I know this Pioneer Slickdeals thread got a little hijacked, but I am now in the know about the MultiEQ-X for my basement setup, so thanks for sharing the info. Looks like I can just get the following items to try this out:

MultiEQ-X app and License - $200
ACM1-X Audyssey Microphone Individually Calibrated for MultEQ-X - $80
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$280 (plus tax) to upgrade my room correction on my Denon 3400

Seems like I can skip the Mini-DSP mic, Mini-DSP EQ and Audyssey Phone App curve editor. In your experience, can you run REW sweeps with the ACM1-X? I have two standard Audyssey calibration mics: XT32 and standard, but it looks like you need a calibrated one ACM1-X, is that your experience?

This thread has me convinced to try it: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/...9/#replies
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gmxnoJan 29, 2024 10:53 PM
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Quote from gmxno :
supermanrob, I have a question.
Currently I have 7 channel receiver, I came to this thread to buy this receiver to setup 5.1.4. Now I am wondering whether I will be able to use my current 7 channel receiver to accomplish 5.1.4 setup. 5 channels for the usual L/R/C/SL & SR.
For the 6th channel I wanted to connect my 2 left Atmos in the ceiling and
For the 7th channel I wanted to connect my 2 right Atmos in the ceiling.
Will I be able to do that (I know physically it is possible), will it damage my ceiling speakers or the AVR? TIA
Thanks supermanrob for your input, and thanks for helping out others in the slickdeals community.
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supermanrob
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WOW headphones is the same as a 5.1 system!!! Rofl3
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LovelySparrow901Jan 29, 2024 11:20 PM
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Headphones don't down mix 5.1 to stereo. The playback devices does. Wow! Why is that breaking news to self proclaimed experts?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I still don't see an example that proves a stereo center image is different from phantom mode center image. Why am I not surprised?? 🤣🤣🤣
Last edited by LovelySparrow901 January 29, 2024 at 04:14 PM.
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CalmPlant660Jan 31, 2024 04:07 AM
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Been looking at receivers since the start of the year and am looking to upgrade to a Dolby Atmos/Vision setup with 5.1.2 for primarily streaming and 4K discs. Currently running an old pair of Klipsch reference floor speakers and a Yamaha RX-V677. My other receiver previously was also Yamaha so naturally I've been starting there.

I was looking at the Yamaha RX-V6A, Yamaha RX-A2A (from what I've read exact same minus design) and also Denon AVR-S970H, Denon AVR-X1800H. Now I've stumbled on this. Trying to stay within $600-$800 if I can help it unless it can be justified for my needs.

Any thoughts or comments on how it compares to these models or others in the same range would be appreciated! Thank you!
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supermanrob
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Quote from CalmPlant660 :
Been looking at receivers since the start of the year and am looking to upgrade to a Dolby Atmos/Vision setup with 5.1.2 for primarily streaming and 4K discs. Currently running an old pair of Klipsch reference floor speakers and a Yamaha RX-V677. My other receiver previously was also Yamaha so naturally I've been starting there.

I was looking at the Yamaha RX-V6A, Yamaha RX-A2A (from what I've read exact same minus design) and also Denon AVR-S970H, Denon AVR-X1800H. Now I've stumbled on this. Trying to stay within $600-$800 if I can help it unless it can be justified for my needs.

Any thoughts or comments on how it compares to these models or others in the same range would be appreciated! Thank you!
Price wise you get 9 channels powered internally and can process 11, pre outs & presumed better RC in Dirac.
If you're not tied to Yamaha sound and features this gives you more for the money.

Since you were happy without pre outs and if you are drawn to Dirac the Lx305 for $530 would probably be a better buy.
The extra 20 watts will probably not be much of an audible benefit if any with your speakers.
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agent888Jan 31, 2024 04:37 PM
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What's with the thumbs down goblin in here? A buttload of posts that are helpful are getting downvoted for no reason. 🤷 ♂️

One quick question, The wattage throttling seems to be a concern. I already have a very small two channel amp for my two rear atmos speakers. I was considering buying this receiver just for the processing to have 7.2 4 and dirac. If I bought an additional amp for the lcr, would the power be throttled on only the remaining channels not externally powered? Is the throttling per channel or is it universal?
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josephandrewsJan 31, 2024 05:03 PM
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I'm not willing to read the entire thread but I thought I read somewhere that this concern about 'power throttling' is based on one audioscience reviewer, and that the whole kerfuffel is basically much ado about nothing?

Or am I mistaken?

No snark intended...
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yangjayJan 31, 2024 05:33 PM
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I'm not familiar with home audio setup, I bought a house with built in speakers (2 front living room, 2 rear living room, 2 in main bedroom, and 2 out in patio)…I just need something to power them and be able to switch zones or turn them all on at once, is this okay or too much?
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agent888Jan 31, 2024 05:36 PM
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Quote from yangjay :
I'm not familiar with home audio setup, I bought a house with built in speakers (2 front living room, 2 rear living room, 2 in main bedroom, and 2 out in patio)…I just need something to power them and be able to switch zones or turn them all on at once, is this okay or too much?
This would be wayyyyy overkill for what you need.

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Quote from agent888 :
What's with the thumbs down goblin in here? A buttload of posts that are helpful are getting downvoted for no reason. 🤷 ♂️

One quick question, The wattage throttling seems to be a concern. I already have a very small two channel amp for my two rear atmos speakers. I was considering buying this receiver just for the processing to have 7.2 4 and dirac. If I bought an additional amp for the lcr, would the power be throttled on only the remaining channels not externally powered? Is the throttling per channel or is it universal?
It's said it's dictated by the internal amps and they cannot be turned off.
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