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Onkyo TX-NR6050 7.2-Channel AV Receiver

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Adorama has Onkyo TX-NR6050 7.2-Channel 8K Network AV Receiver (TXNR6050M2BMDC) on sale for $299. Shipping is free.

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Product Features:
  • 200 W/Ch Dynamic Audio Amplification system
  • 5.2.2-ch Dolby Atmos and DTS:X playback
  • Works with Hey Google or Alexa
  • Stream over 5 GHz/2.4 GHz dual-band Wi-Fi supporting the 802.11ac standard
  • HDMI Sub/Zone 2 Out for media transmission to a projector, gaming monitor, or TV
  • Refined chassis, HDMI board, DAC, Digital/Analog inputs, power-amp grounds and power lines
  • AccuEQ with AccuReflex and subwoofer EQ

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Update: This popular deal is still available.

Adorama has Onkyo TX-NR6050 7.2-Channel 8K Network AV Receiver (TXNR6050M2BMDC) on sale for $299. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for finding this deal.

Product Features:
  • 200 W/Ch Dynamic Audio Amplification system
  • 5.2.2-ch Dolby Atmos and DTS:X playback
  • Works with Hey Google or Alexa
  • Stream over 5 GHz/2.4 GHz dual-band Wi-Fi supporting the 802.11ac standard
  • HDMI Sub/Zone 2 Out for media transmission to a projector, gaming monitor, or TV
  • Refined chassis, HDMI board, DAC, Digital/Analog inputs, power-amp grounds and power lines
  • AccuEQ with AccuReflex and subwoofer EQ

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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff
  • About this deal:
  • About this product:
    • Onkyo 2 Year Limited Warranty
  • Please see original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
Exactly. Putting this avr with "good" speakers makes this avr the weak link. Spend more and get one with top tier room EQ. 👍🏼
Dude, you should really give up this line of argument. It doesn't make sense here. You need to take a step back and recognize that your higher-end audiophile goals are not the same as everyone else's. In fact, they match for only a tiny fraction of people (and not the audience here).

You're arguing that people should "save a few hundred more" over a $300 AVR. That may make sense when you're talking a $1k+ AVR, but in this scenario you're basically talking about doubling the price of the unit (or at least 66% more). For someone who's looking at entry-ish level AVRs and they just want to step up from a soundbar for their HDMI TV, what you're talking about is ridiculous; $50 or $100 matters a lot to many people.

People buying this unit aren't spending a few thousand bucks on speakers, they're probably spending less than $500-$1000 or so total on speakers (at least initially). You're discussing room correction, where most people are more interested in the step from crappy soundbar to real 5.1 surround. Sure, Dirac Live can make a big improvement, but most people can get a bigger jump by going from TV speakers or soundbar to a real 5.1 surround setup.

As someone else mentioned, you're trying to sell people on a fancy luxury car ($1k AVR with $3k+ speakers) when they want a nice, practical every day car (modest AVR with fairly entry-level speakers) that's a step-up from the bicycle (TV speakers) or Vespa scooter (soundbar) that they've been using before. Don't recommend what you want; recommend what they want.

To that point, the thrift store and used market is another non-starter. In order to do that effectively, you have to know the brands, models, features, and be willing to do the research and investigation to find something that really does what you need and works and for a reasonable price. Fine for an audiophile, but not practical for someone who's never owned an AVR and is just dipping their toe in. They want the easy option. For someone in that boat, a decent priced, new, relatively featureful AVR, like this one, is going to be a much better option.
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Dealmaster2024Jan 30, 2024 2:54 AM
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It says 200w/channel so speakers who can handle max150w will not work like Klipsch rp-8060f ?
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theshopper2022Jan 30, 2024 3:23 AM
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Quote from Dealmaster2024 :
It says 200w/channel so speakers who can handle max150w will not work like Klipsch rp-8060f ?
Just don't crank and it be fine.

Under powering speakers is more of an issue.
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
Besides your speakers, your room acoustics play the largest part in the sound you ultimately hear.
In a perfect world, if you fed a "flat" frequency sweep of 20hz to 20khz (the range of human hearing) into a speaker, you should hear a "flat" frequency sweep come out of the speaker at your seat. That very rarely happens in the real world. You'll usually wind up with a frequency response that looks like a theme park roller coaster with bass, treble, etc all over the place.
In a nutshell, the room EQ program guides through a process where you use the included mic (in the case of audyssey) to make about 8 sound measurements within a few feet of your main listening position. It then averages these measurements and uses digital equalization to reduce dips and peaks in the frequency response to give you the smoothest result, which should be the most accurate "sounding" when compared to the source (CD, etc).
Also, because a lot of people don't like "flat" frequency responses and prefer some added "spice" to their sound, such as goosed bass or more treble, you can now also use an app on a phone, tablet, or PC to tailor the frequency response line until you're happy with the result.
That whole mic, EQ blah blah sound measuring has been around over 20 years.
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fourml8rJan 30, 2024 1:04 PM
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Quote from Dealmaster2024 :
It says 200w/channel so speakers who can handle max150w will not work like Klipsch rp-8060f ?
while both use a wattage rating these are often confused by people. the 200w amp rating is a capability of the unit. most times it puts out very little power (just a few watts). you are unlikely to reach that peak value.

the speaker wattage is a recommendation from the manufacturer. in reality it has no bearing on the actual performance and will work with 1 watt or 1,000 watts.

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BiggsTheGoalieJan 30, 2024 4:11 PM
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
That a a lot of rambling.

We get it. You're are anti- room equalization. Cool.
You can tune a system by ear better than any software designed by audio engineers. Noted 👍🏼🤣
Speaking of "a lot of rambling"...do you *read* your posts? You should, and then maybe think how they come off to others reading them.

That said, you're making some pretty bold assumptions there. Anti-room equalization? Not at all...but it's simply another tool in the toolkit, it won't magically make bad equipment sound good.

I think you're mistaking "equalized" sound with "sounding good". A flat response curve and perfectly even levels frequently sounds not very good to a lot of people, for various reasons. I'm not going to argue that point, it should be pretty obvious (similar to how lots of people like olives, and I think they're awful - I'm never going to convince people who love them that they're awful, and vice-versa).

Room EQ can measure the level of sound - not how good or bad it sounds to an individual. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts I can sit in a room with this receiver and an otherwise-decent setup, and have it sounding "good" to me within a short bit (you know, just like people have been doing for several decades prior to this technology) and not think about it even once more after that. Could the room EQ make it "better"? I guess...but please define "better". "Better" may or may not actually sound better to me, you, or anyone else.

The bottom line here is really that "sound quality" is a highly-personal and individualized thing (you do know that ears and how they interpret are different on people, correct?). We can sit here and argue all day which setup/receiver/speakers sound better, or more accurate, or more lifelike or whatever you have it, but odds are we're never going to quite agree, and that's okay. Pepsi or Coke? (or Fanta, or Jolly Good, or any endless number of cola options...hopefully you get the drift here)
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Quote from theshopper2022 :
Just don't crank and it be fine.

Under powering speakers is more of an issue.
I really, really, really wish more people understood this. The number of times I had people come in complaining that their 50w receiver "blew out" their huge concert-style 1,000w speaker...well, it was a lot!

I love car analogies...I used to use the comparison of the receiver as the engine, and the speaker as the vehicle. Semi engine in a Pinto vs. a Pinto engine in a semi...you get the drift (and most people understood that pretty easily as well!). Big Grin
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
Amplifiers don't push (or force feed) power into speakers.
Speakers draw power from an amplifier as you turn up the volume.
I don't think this is actually accurate. Speakers are passive. You don't hook them up to an amp and they start pulling power. The amp absolutely pushes power into the speakers, although the level is variable depending on the resistance (i.e. the same "volume" will push more power into a 4-ohm load vs. an 8-ohm load).
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Quote from fourml8r :
while both use a wattage rating these are often confused by people. the 200w amp rating is a capability of the unit. most times it puts out very little power (just a few watts). you are unlikely to reach that peak value.

the speaker wattage is a recommendation from the manufacturer. in reality it has no bearing on the actual performance and will work with 1 watt or 1,000 watts.
You're correct here, and I'd add some additional context.

One way I've always thought about this that may be helpful for people: you're much better to "over-power" a speaker vs. "under-power"...within reason. A 1,000-watt capable speaker will handle anything from 1-1,000w watts...but your 50w receiver will lose control of that speaker as it hits higher volume outputs, vs. a potential 2000w amplifier that could probably handle that 1,000w speaker at nearly full volume almost perfectly, since it's only operating at about 50% of its capacity.

That 50w amp at high volume on a 1,000w speaker is going to sound super sloppy with a lot of distortion.

If you want to use another bad analogy:

Take a 1,000-lb rock - now go push that rock and see how far you make it (this is the small amp-big speaker scenario).

Take a 100-lb. rock and do the same thing (this is the bigger amp, smaller speaker scenario).

If you really want to move that 1000-lb. rock, get a bulldozer. Wink
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dbbcooperJan 30, 2024 4:51 PM
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i have a 45 year old Fisher that sounds better than receivers today and I is more sturdy and reliable what does that tell you about technology for receivers anyway
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yajasJan 30, 2024 6:42 PM
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Recently, A friend, the first time AVR buyer, wanted to buy a "great" system (from TV speakers to 5.1) and a decent budget for it. After working with couple of weeks, the intention I noticed, the budget is around, what is cheapest speaker package & AVR in sale found in SD. basically, for most, the Great system means sound coming all over/everywhere in the room. That's all. easy requirement.

He asked why his son's XBOX is not working with AVR to TV. Later I found that the XBOX HDMI is connected to one of the outputs.

And here the
Discussions are far detailed for most of the buyers. Topics touched are Room EQ, Speaker power, AVR wattage, Audyssey, REW, Aud XT32, system and so on.
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
66% is NOT double. If someone has enough disposable income to spend $300 on new avr, they can save a little longer and get one that is actually much, much better.
It's not far off. For someone looking for an inexpensive option, going from $300 to $500+ is a big deal.
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That's simply your opinion. It doesn't take a NASA rocket scientist to actually see an avr from a brand they're familiar with in a store and google it to see what it's capable of, testing to see if it powers on, and verify with the store if they take it home and hook it up to a source and speakers, they can return it if it doesn't work. This can save someone hundreds of dollars they can use on "better"
speakers or a subwoofer.
Again, you're speaking from your perspective. The vast majority of people don't want to do that. They want to go into a store (or website), find an option that looks like meets their needs at a decent price and they want to move on. This isn't a hobby, it's a simple home theater system.
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What' other features matter if THE most important feature to the best sound quality is missing?
Cost and convenience. Both of which trump sound quality for the vast majority of people; sound quality is an important, but distant, third.
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The idea of buying cheap now and getting something better (and probably more expensive) later is terrible advice and wasteful.

Buy once. Cry once.
Once again, you're completely stuck in your own perspective. Most people who buy this aren't going to get something more expensive later. This isn't a "starter AVR"; this is the endgame. They're going to buy this and use it for the next 10-20 years and be perfectly satisfied with it.

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Quote from Dealmaster2024 :
It says 200w/channel so speakers who can handle max150w will not work like Klipsch rp-8060f ?
TL;DR: No worries, you're fine. This AVR will work just fine with those speakers.

​Details (a little surprised no one else called this out): Without getting too down in the weeds, amplifier power output is more complicated than just watts. The watts per channel is dependent on the impedance (resistance) of the speakers (in ohms, designated with Ω). Most speakers are 4-8Ω, although some can drop as low as 2Ω and higher can be found, usually on higher-end speakers. High and low impedance isn't a "good" or "bad" thing, but it's worth knowing that low impedance speakers typically require more power to drive them.

Most modern AVRs and amps can handle speakers in the range of 4Ω to 16Ω, so it's rare that you'll run into the problem where the speaker's impedance is lower than the amp can handle (which can damage an amp).

Now, when amps/AVRs can handle a range of impedance values, they do this by providing different levels of current at different impedances. To oversimplify, as the impedance drops, the amplifier's watts increase For advertising simplicity, though, a single number is typically advertised as the "power" for an AVR/Amp.

For almost all major companies and popular AVRs, the wattage is given for 8Ω impedance. I don't know why Adorama doesn't follow that for the lead info for this Amp, but it results in some misleading numbers. Specifically, the "200 watts per channel" is for lower impedance speakers, not the standard 8Ω.

Here's the actual technical specs from the Adorama details (also visible at the Onkyo product website):
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  • Power output (All channels):
    • 200 W/Ch (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 10% THD,1-ch driven)
    • 90 W/Ch (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz, 0.08% THD, 2-ch driven, FTC)
  • Dynamic power:
    • 240 W (3 ohms, Front)
    • 210 W (4 ohms, Front)
    • 120 W (8 ohms, Front)
The mentioned Klipsch RP-8060F speakers have a nominal impedance of 8Ω with a maximum RMS of 150 watts.
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