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2000W Nornvin N1400FB LiFePO4 Portable Power Station $400 + Free Shipping

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ANNKE [annke.com] has 2000W Nornvin N1400FB LiFePO4 Portable Power Station on sale for $679.99 -$280 w/ coupon code Y18TYW879ZGE = $399.99. Shipping is free.

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  • 1408Wh (44000mAh) LiFePO4 battery
  • Output:
    • 3 x AC110V/60Hz, 1500W continuous, 2000W peak
    • 2 x USB-C: PD100W (5V3A/9V3A/12V3A/15V3A/20V3A/20V5A)
    • 3 x USB-A 1: 5V2.4A;
    • 1 x USB-A 2 (QC3.0): 5V3A/9V2A/12V1.5A (18W MAX)
    • 2 x DC 12V
  • Input/Charging:
    • AC 1500W
    • Car charging (12V10A)
    • Solar charging (400W MAX 30V -60V, 15A MAX)
  • 12W LED Indicator
  • 14.17" x 10.62" x 10.94" (360x270x278mm)
  • 42.54 lbs (19.3KG)
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ANNKE [annke.com] has 2000W Nornvin N1400FB LiFePO4 Portable Power Station on sale for $679.99 -$280 w/ coupon code Y18TYW879ZGE = $399.99. Shipping is free.

Note:
Must apply coupon code at checkout to reach final price.

Details:
  • 1408Wh (44000mAh) LiFePO4 battery
  • Output:
    • 3 x AC110V/60Hz, 1500W continuous, 2000W peak
    • 2 x USB-C: PD100W (5V3A/9V3A/12V3A/15V3A/20V3A/20V5A)
    • 3 x USB-A 1: 5V2.4A;
    • 1 x USB-A 2 (QC3.0): 5V3A/9V2A/12V1.5A (18W MAX)
    • 2 x DC 12V
  • Input/Charging:
    • AC 1500W
    • Car charging (12V10A)
    • Solar charging (400W MAX 30V -60V, 15A MAX)
  • 12W LED Indicator
  • 14.17" x 10.62" x 10.94" (360x270x278mm)
  • 42.54 lbs (19.3KG)

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Jan 29, 2024 07:22 PM
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detroitmedicJan 29, 2024 07:22 PM
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Where do they come up with these names???
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Jan 30, 2024 03:49 AM
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FatalExceptionJan 30, 2024 03:49 AM
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Poor reviews on this unit. No UPS feature. Previous SD thread for it says the Nornvin website was taken down and warranty support is limited-to-none. I wonder if they're just clearing them out ASAP to get bad inventory off their shelves.

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Jan 30, 2024 06:03 AM
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golfreakJan 30, 2024 06:03 AM
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I hate this solar inputs at 30v-60v.
You need 2 panels in series at get it past 30v and if you wire 3 panels in series, sometimes it's beyond 60v so you're pretty much limited to 2 panels in series.
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Jan 30, 2024 07:39 PM
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WoodSlayR
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Quote from golfreak :
I hate this solar inputs at 30v-60v.
You need 2 panels in series at get it past 30v and if you wire 3 panels in series, sometimes it's beyond 60v so you're pretty much limited to 2 panels in series.
That is 100% absolutely not true at all. If your claim that 2 panels in series is the correct voltage, (we'll assume that it is) then you can connect another 2 panels in series, then you have 2 groups of 2 series'd panels that can can be then be wired together in parallel to achieve the same final voltage as just 2 panels in series. So thats 4 panels making the correct voltage. You can even take it further (if the unit can even accept that much PV input) by doing the exact same wiring scheme with another 4 panels, then wire the 2 groups of 4 panels together in parallel to achieve your desired final voltage. Not trying to sound like a dick but It's really not that difficult for anyone that understands how to wire up solar panels, which you my friend obviously do not.
Last edited by WoodSlayR January 30, 2024 at 12:11 PM.
Jan 30, 2024 08:47 PM
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golfreakJan 30, 2024 08:47 PM
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Quote from WoodSlayR :
That is 100% absolutely not true at all. If your claim that 2 panels in series is the correct voltage, (we'll assume that it is) then you can connect another 2 panels in series, then you have 2 groups of 2 series'd panels that can can be then be wired together in parallel to achieve the same final voltage as just 2 panels in series. So thats 4 panels making the correct voltage. You can even take it further (if the unit can even accept that much PV input) by doing the exact same wiring scheme with another 4 panels, then wire the 2 groups of 4 panels together in parallel to achieve your desired final voltage. Not trying to sound like a dick but It's really not that difficult for anyone that understands how to wire up solar panels, which you my friend obviously do not.
LOL.
This is my system at home like I don't know what I'm talking about.
Yeah 2 panels in series "should" get you over the 30v for it to run but the problem is on cloudy days, 2 panels might not push the 2 panels past 30v for this to run.
So sure you can connect your 8 panels in 2 x 4 parallels but the entire system will hover around 32v-36v but again you are barely over the minimal requirements so when the voltage dip down, your entire system is useless.
Let not even talk about running too many panels in parallel will add up the AMPS, which will require thicker wire and run hotter.
When looking for a good power station, you need at a minimum 65v because most panels operate at 18v-22v which allows you to at least wire 3 in series.
The key to a good solar system is to run at higher voltage.
- Higher voltage means less amps meaning using thinner wires and run cooler.
- Not worry about the voltage dip down to a certain voltage for the system to run.
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Quote from golfreak :
LOL.
This is my system at home like I don't know what I'm talking about.
Yeah 2 panels in series "should" get you over the 30v for it to run but the problem is on cloudy days, 2 panels might not push the 2 panels past 30v for this to run.
So sure you can connect your 8 panels in 2 x 4 parallels but the entire system will hover around 32v-36v but again you are barely over the minimal requirements so when the voltage dip down, your entire system is useless.
Let not even talk about running too many panels in parallel will add up the AMPS, which will require thicker wire and run hotter.
When looking for a good power station, you need at a minimum 65v because most panels operate at 18v-22v which allows you to at least wire 3 in series.
The key to a good solar system is to run at higher voltage.
- Higher voltage means less amps meaning using thinner wires and run cooler.
- Not worry about the voltage dip down to a certain voltage for the system to run.
The more watts your system produces, the thicker your wire is going to need to be. duh. There's no getting around that. You say the real problem is on cloudy days? Way to state the obvious pal. After all, this is solar power we are talking about. Available sunlight effects any number of panels at any voltage. whether 1 panel or a hundred panels. Like just stop. Owning panels and posting pictures of them doesn't prove you know anything about them. You talking already proved that you dont know as much as you think you do. It's ok to not know. Just stop acting like you do. You are spreading wrong info to people that now think they know what they are talking about because they listened to you and you probably listened to somebody else just like yourself that didn't know what they were talking about and it keeps going. Just stop spreading incorrect info if you don't know what your talking about. Nobody is going to think your less cool if you don't know everything. Promise.

Look dude, in your defense, your system is a home setup and people dont buy these portable units to run there home like you are doing. They are much smaller setups and normally tie into an existing 12 or 24v systems usually on a vehicle or camper, or just a tent even to run 12v appliances or anything 12volt which they make a lot of 12v things but not a lot of 24v and above appliances. Most of these units don't even accept a ton of solar. 1000 watts of solar is on the very high end of what a portable solar generator can even handle with most being much less than that. This one for example shows it only charges at at 400watts of PV input. Strategies of wiring Mobile setups and home setups are very different. one huge advantage of keeping your system voltage low is the ease of tying into your 12 volt car system. I have a dc to dc charger than runs off my alternators 14volts or so and redirects 50amps of current to my leisure battery while im driving. I also have a solar charger and 400 watts of panels on my roof that continously send power to my batteries, or whenever theres sun rather. Every option i have to charge my batteries can be used at the same to charge my batteries faster. I also have an 80amp AC charger that when I'm plugged into shore power is also charging my leisure batteries This cannot be done if your setup is setup for more than a 12v setup. Mobile setups get a lot more complex in when everything is running at different voltages which are normally in increment of 12 volts. like 12, 24, 36, and 48. and the most common is 12 with 24v being next most common but 12 or 24v setup in a house setup isn't going to give the average user what they need. Your comparing apples to oranges when you compare your home setup to a small mobile setup.
Last edited by WoodSlayR January 30, 2024 at 06:52 PM.
Jan 31, 2024 01:52 AM
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novicewonJan 31, 2024 01:52 AM
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In addition to other issues this thing is less than 80% efficient so at best its heavy for 1kw of usable power. Interesting at this price point, but overall it's not a great unit, but if the battery cells are grade A, at 399 1280wh isn't all that bad just to have something

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Quote from novicewon :
In addition to other issues this thing is less than 80% efficient so at best its heavy for 1kw of usable power. Interesting at this price point, but overall it's not a great unit, but if the battery cells are grade A, at 399 1280wh isn't all that bad just to have something
I think its a fantastic deal. Not just this particular one but these devices in general. The prices in the industry overall has really come down this past year Not to mention It also has a built in solar charge controller and built in 1500 watt continuous pure sine wave inverter, all wrapped up in a neat tidy easy to carry very convenient portable package. The prices on things are getting so low on these prefab devices that its getting difficult even next to impossible to build your own cheaper than what they can sell you one of these for. Just a 1280wh battery your gonna easily pay 3 to 400 for any decent name brand battery. When you add up the cost it would take to build a unit with equivalent specs, its a wonder they can do it and sell them so cheap.
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Jan 31, 2024 05:50 AM
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rwstarkeJan 31, 2024 05:50 AM
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I have used the CP3500 cable to connect 2 Nornvins together to get a total of 2816Wh, share the load between the two, and also charge each of them at the same time.

I have (8) 100W rigid panels made into 4 suitcases.. They can be set up as 2 units of 4 panels in the 2S2P configuration. I also have 2 extra 100W panels if needed.
If all else fails, I can start up my 7500W Tri-fuel generator on NG and plug it into the main panel in case of emergency.
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golfreakJan 31, 2024 07:18 AM
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Quote from WoodSlayR :
The more watts your system produces, the thicker your wire is going to need to be. duh. There's no getting around that. You say the real problem is on cloudy days? Way to state the obvious pal. After all, this is solar power we are talking about. Available sunlight effects any number of panels at any voltage. whether 1 panel or a hundred panels. Like just stop. Owning panels and posting pictures of them doesn't prove you know anything about them. You talking already proved that you dont know as much as you think you do. It's ok to not know. Just stop acting like you do. You are spreading wrong info to people that now think they know what they are talking about because they listened to you and you probably listened to somebody else just like yourself that didn't know what they were talking about and it keeps going. Just stop spreading incorrect info if you don't know what your talking about. Nobody is going to think your less cool if you don't know everything. Promise.

Look dude, in your defense, your system is a home setup and people dont buy these portable units to run there home like you are doing. They are much smaller setups and normally tie into an existing 12 or 24v systems usually on a vehicle or camper, or just a tent even to run 12v appliances or anything 12volt which they make a lot of 12v things but not a lot of 24v and above appliances. Most of these units don't even accept a ton of solar. 1000 watts of solar is on the very high end of what a portable solar generator can even handle with most being much less than that. This one for example shows it only charges at at 400watts of PV input. Strategies of wiring Mobile setups and home setups are very different. one huge advantage of keeping your system voltage low is the ease of tying into your 12 volt car system. I have a dc to dc charger than runs off my alternators 14volts or so and redirects 50amps of current to my leisure battery while im driving. I also have a solar charger and 400 watts of panels on my roof that continously send power to my batteries, or whenever theres sun rather. Every option i have to charge my batteries can be used at the same to charge my batteries faster. I also have an 80amp AC charger that when I'm plugged into shore power is also charging my leisure batteries This cannot be done if your setup is setup for more than a 12v setup. Mobile setups get a lot more complex in when everything is running at different voltages which are normally in increment of 12 volts. like 12, 24, 36, and 48. and the most common is 12 with 24v being next most common but 12 or 24v setup in a house setup isn't going to give the average user what they need. Your comparing apples to oranges when you compare your home setup to a small mobile setup.
I'll stop arguing with idiots who don't know what they're talking about.
After reading your first sentence, I realize how clueless you are.
Amps is the biggest factor of wire sizing, not wattage.
Just look at household items with the tiny wires even though some runs at 1500 watts. It's because they are running at 110v at less than 15 amps.
- You can have 4 panels running in series at 80v producing 5 amps = 400w but only needing wires capable of handling 5 amps.
- Versus 4 panels in parallels at 20v producing 20 amps = the same 400w but needing thicker wires for the 20 amps.
I'll stop here. I actually have several solar systems that I run 24/7. No need to argue with keyboard know it all.
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Quote from golfreak :
I'll stop arguing with idiots who don't know what they're talking about.
After reading your first sentence, I realize how clueless you are.
Amps is the biggest factor of wire sizing, not wattage.
Just look at household items with the tiny wires even though some runs at 1500 watts. It's because they are running at 110v at less than 15 amps.
- You can have 4 panels running in series at 80v producing 5 amps = 400w but only needing wires capable of handling 5 amps.
- Versus 4 panels in parallels at 20v producing 20 amps = the same 400w but needing thicker wires for the 20 amps.
I'll stop here. I actually have several solar systems that I run 24/7. No need to argue with keyboard know it all.
Thank you for making this easy by bowing out of the conversation. Did you not read what I said about home setups vs mobile setups? There are different requirements or needs for each whether mobile or home. Using higher voltages is desired and more helpful when putting together a home setup with longer runs and different power needs, but not nearly as much for these small, current limted mobile setups where the solar panels normally sit a few short feet away from the actual battery its charging. There are factors that make using low voltage more desirable when doing a mobile solar setup, especially if your building off an existing 12 environment like a vehicle and there's also factors that make higher voltage range more versatile when doing large scale setups. You are right, on a home setup the higher voltage is what most ppl would want. But don't forget how this convo started. It was about a very small portable unit with limited solar voltage input range.. One so tiny that it only accepts 400 watts max for solar charging anyways and therefore very limited in how many solar panels you can wire to it anyways. It doesnt need a wide voltage range bcuz theres a very limited amount of panels this thing can even handle , so everything you say is moot point and doesn't come into play when dealing with these smaller capacity portable low voltage systems This is literally a device that can be charged from zero to 100% in just over 4 hours at it max solar rating. This isn't a home setup man, its a tiny hand carry-able super portable setup designed to be used for camping or going to the beach or picnic with, not using thousands of watts of power like you need for a home setup. This thing is intended to be used with a lot of 12v appliances and charge other smaller 5 volt like usb devices, not run megawattage devices on mega sized stationary home setups. This obviously isn't the setup you want or need and it wont replace your setup, but its not intended to. It's very good for its intended purpose, not yours. Your bigger setup is good at what it does but it cant do a lot of the things this setup can, so there's that as well. This is apple and oranges of course and dont forget why this convo started. your statement about your limited with solar panels because of the voltage range limitations. I agree with you on its solar input limitation but it doesn't make this a bad device. It would suck if you had to charge a very large battery bank with small voltage range and a limit of 400 watts but thats a decent number when talking about something with such a small capacity in the first place.
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Where do they come up with these names???
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I bet that's how they came up with Cuktech.
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tracker2208Feb 02, 2024 03:38 PM
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I bit. One of my big fears is losing power during heavy, heavy rain and my basement flooding. This will insure that my sump and utility pumps can operate, and probably the cheapest price I can do it at. Plus even at 77% efficiency (per a YouTube reviewer) that's still slightly over 1 kWh of power, which is probably enough to get me through a full workday if my power ever goes out when it's not raining.

Sure this has flaws but it's a ton of value for $400.

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Quote from tracker2208 :
I bit. One of my big fears is losing power during heavy, heavy rain and my basement flooding. This will insure that my sump and utility pumps can operate, and probably the cheapest price I can do it at. Plus even at 77% efficiency (per a YouTube reviewer) that's still slightly over 1 kWh of power, which is probably enough to get me through a full workday if my power ever goes out when it's not raining.

Sure this has flaws but it's a ton of value for $400.
I agree . It does have a lot of value. In fact, for certain needs, it might be hard to find a better option. Just don't expect it to charge with a hundred different home solar panel configurations like some people think they need to be of value. As long as you have reasonable expectations from this device, you'll be happy with it but If you want it to do something its not really meant for, you'll be disappointed. It's really as simple as that.

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