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Help Me Help my Friend who’s being scammed online

11 10 January 29, 2024 at 06:30 PM
I have a friend who's a senior citizen and she's been scammed over and over and over. I think by the same person. Now this person has told her that he's going to have his close friend who's with the FBI contact her and they have now Skyped. All of her friends and family keep telling her he's not real but she doesn't believe it. I need to help her. The cops won't help.
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komondor
01-29-2024 at 07:18 PM.
01-29-2024 at 07:18 PM.
Well have someone pretend to be the FBI and contact her and tell them they are fake.
Give them her information so the believes them!
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01-29-2024 at 08:05 PM.
01-29-2024 at 08:05 PM.
Quote from GreenFlower237 :
I have a friend who's a senior citizen and she's been scammed over and over and over. I think by the same person. Now this person has told her that he's going to have his close friend who's with the FBI contact her and they have now Skyped. All of her friends and family keep telling her he's not real but she doesn't believe it. I need to help her. The cops won't help.
Her family should be the ones to intervene. If she's making poor financial decisions maybe they should have her placed under guardianship.
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w3kn
01-30-2024 at 05:56 AM.
01-30-2024 at 05:56 AM.
Been through a similar situation. No matter how many times we proved that the person on the other end was a scammer, we couldn't convince my family member that the person was a scammer. Authorities are completely useless. Nobody gave a crap and just took "information" and did nothing. Their only response was "Just tell the person to stop talking to them". Yeah, really bleeping helpful.

Aside from taking phone and internet away, about all you can do is block every known email address, phone number, etc that the scammer uses. Monitor the senior citizen accounts heavily. If you are on their bank accounts, set it up where they cannot make purchases over certain amounts. They can't use credit cards to buy gift cards, can't write checks to "cash" things like that.

Good luck.
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01-30-2024 at 07:02 AM.
01-30-2024 at 07:02 AM.
I'm shocked, simply shocked that scumbags stoop so low to scam senior citizens! It's bad enough that old people had to suffer growing up before Benjamin Franklin invented electricity! As chief executive vice president in charge of scamming, I'm authorizing a FULL reimbursement! Yes, your read right, full, Full, FULL REIMBURSEMENT! Kindly provide yours & your friends bank account # and password so I can begin transfer off $$$ most expediently!!

God bless!!!
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01-30-2024 at 12:50 PM.
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The family could try to talk to her bank. They have some interest in customers not losing all their money or attempting to recover it with a lawsuit.
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GreenFlower237
01-31-2024 at 09:30 AM.
01-31-2024 at 09:30 AM.
Her family has taken away her iPad, internet and changed her #. She's a very savvy woman in her 70's and she figured out how to get internet. I've even shown her reserve image search of the pictures she's sent to me. I had her take the state of Louisiana private investigator state licensing class and exam. This scammer even said, I'll hook you up with someone I know in the FBI.. and they even had a zoom call. I'm LIKE HES NOT REAL!!!!! But she wants to prove everyone wrong. I had another acquaintance fall for this and she spent her and her husbands retirement and then killed herself. I just don't want this to happen to her as well. She's a classy lady who just wants love.
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01-31-2024 at 02:06 PM.
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Quote from GreenFlower237 :
Her family has taken away her iPad, internet and changed her #. She's a very savvy woman in her 70's and she figured out how to get internet. I've even shown her reserve image search of the pictures she's sent to me. I had her take the state of Louisiana private investigator state licensing class and exam. This scammer even said, I'll hook you up with someone I know in the FBI.. and they even had a zoom call. I'm LIKE HES NOT REAL!!!!! But she wants to prove everyone wrong. I had another acquaintance fall for this and she spent her and her husbands retirement and then killed herself. I just don't want this to happen to her as well. She's a classy lady who just wants love.
So this is a sweetheart scam. The bank should be notified. You can't just tell someone that the other person isn't real. If she's desperate enough, she'll believe them over you.

1) https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles...ance-scams

While money is rarely recouped, it sometimes can be. File a complaint on her behalf.

2) The identity of an FBI agent can be verified. Google how.

3) I'd watch Dr. Phil episodes with her. He's done a lot of shows about sweetheart scams. Many episodes are available for free on YouTube. Very informative.

4) Try to take her to places where she can meet other people her age. It's quite possible she'll take an interest in having an actual relationship with someone she can see and truly be with.

5) As a last resort, I'd file a petition to be guardian of her finances. She's clearly being scammed and everyone seems to know it but her. You don't need an attorney to do that. Courts have forms. It may not cost anything to file. To avoid being scammed by a court appointed guardian be sure to be clear that she's fine otherwise, but needs a friend or family member to help her. I'd request to monitor her for 6 months to 1 year.
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01-31-2024 at 04:49 PM.
01-31-2024 at 04:49 PM.
Quote from LC2 :
So this is a sweetheart scam. The bank should be notified. You can't just tell someone that the other person isn't real. If she's desperate enough, she'll believe them over you.

1) https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles...ance-scams [ftc.gov]

While money is rarely recouped, it sometimes can be. File a complaint on her behalf.

2) The identity of an FBI agent can be verified. Google how.

3) I'd watch Dr. Phil episodes with her. He's done a lot of shows about sweetheart scams. Many episodes are available for free on YouTube. Very informative.

4) Try to take her to places where she can meet other people her age. It's quite possible she'll take an interest in having an actual relationship with someone she can see and truly be with.

5) As a last resort, I'd file a petition to be guardian of her finances. She's clearly being scammed and everyone seems to know it but her. You don't need an attorney to do that. Courts have forms. It may not cost anything to file. To avoid being scammed by a court appointed guardian be sure to be clear that she's fine otherwise, but needs a friend or family member to help her. I'd request to monitor her for 6 months to 1 year.
Follow steps 1-3. Was in very similar situation. The main objective should be to convince person they are scammed...........sometimes it feels self defeating....keep trying!
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01-31-2024 at 07:07 PM.
01-31-2024 at 07:07 PM.
Quote from GreenFlower237 :
I have a friend who's a senior citizen and she's been scammed over and over and over. I think by the same person. Now this person has told her that he's going to have his close friend who's with the FBI contact her and they have now Skyped. All of her friends and family keep telling her he's not real but she doesn't believe it. I need to help her. The cops won't help.
Highly recommend sitting down with her at the computer and review these websites.

https://www.aarp.org/money/scams-...posed.html

https://www.youtube.com/c/JimBrowning

Or just have her Google the name Jim Browning and read up on the scams targeting older people. This guy is a saint. He's a tech guy located in Ireland and spends his spare time ferreting out scammers. He's smart enough to get into the scammers systems and actually monitors the phone conversations the scammers are having with the victim. As you can imagine, Jim Brown is not his real name. A great many of these scams are coming from makeshift call centers in and near India where the scammers get a commission based on how much they extract from the victim. The more she learns about these, hopefully she will recognize them and how these people use social engineering to gather data. She is not alone. Knowledge is power. She's lucky to have you as a friend.
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01-31-2024 at 08:46 PM.
01-31-2024 at 08:46 PM.
Quote from Hlhjunior :
Follow steps 1-3. Was in very similar situation. The main objective should be to convince person they are scammed...........sometimes it feels self defeating....keep trying!
Glad you or your friend got out. There is no shame in it. It's too easy to watch or hear about programs like 90 Day Fiance and think that finding romance online is a great thing. It's really not. No1 Most people from other countries think all Americans are wealthy so scams don't harm us. Running the person's face through facial recognition software is also another good way to check people out. Pim Eyes is a decent program. Even the free version can help you ferret someone out.
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02-02-2024 at 11:27 AM.
02-02-2024 at 11:27 AM.
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Glad you or your friend got out. There is no shame in it. It's too easy to watch or hear about programs like 90 Day Fiance and think that finding romance online is a great thing. It's really not. Most people from other countries think all Americans are wealthy so scams don't harm us. Running the person's face through facial recognition software is also another good way to check people out. Pim Eyes is a decent program. Even the free version can help you ferret someone out.
I'll add that while we see no shame in it, the people scammed usually do feel extraordinarily shamed, which often makes them dig their heels in as form of denial/self protection. So be compassionate the entire time and do what you can to reassure them in any way you can think of to lessen that emotional hit.
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02-02-2024 at 07:01 PM.
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Quote from zeroflight :
I'll add that while we see no shame in it, the people scammed usually do feel extraordinarily shamed, which often makes them dig their heels in as form of denial/self protection. So be compassionate the entire time and do what you can to reassure them in any way you can think of to lessen that emotional hit.
I'm compassionate. Peace
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02-02-2024 at 07:09 PM.
02-02-2024 at 07:09 PM.
Then you have to watch out for the "recovery" scammers. They also might be the same people, but they will promise to "recover"all the lost money by just spending a little money, then a little more, then a little more to release the funds, then a little more for taxes, then a little more for... Lather, rinse, repeat until there is no more money to scam.
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02-06-2024 at 06:00 AM.
02-06-2024 at 06:00 AM.
Quote from LC2 :
So this is a sweetheart scam. The bank should be notified. You can't just tell someone that the other person isn't real. If she's desperate enough, she'll believe them over you.

1) https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles...ance-scams [ftc.gov]

While money is rarely recouped, it sometimes can be. File a complaint on her behalf.

2) The identity of an FBI agent can be verified. Google how.

3) I'd watch Dr. Phil episodes with her. He's done a lot of shows about sweetheart scams. Many episodes are available for free on YouTube. Very informative.

4) Try to take her to places where she can meet other people her age. It's quite possible she'll take an interest in having an actual relationship with someone she can see and truly be with.

5) As a last resort, I'd file a petition to be guardian of her finances. She's clearly being scammed and everyone seems to know it but her. You don't need an attorney to do that. Courts have forms. It may not cost anything to file. To avoid being scammed by a court appointed guardian be sure to be clear that she's fine otherwise, but needs a friend or family member to help her. I'd request to monitor her for 6 months to 1 year.
I work in cyber security and I sent my SC every article I could on 419 scams. Still wasn't convinced. The scammer convinced my SC that I was "hacking all their devices" and we were "out to get them". All the images sent by the scammer showing various "gifts" or "I'm having problems" were found using basic google image searches. The best was that he kept telling my person there was a "box" with "money, gold, silver" that was wrapped up somewhere. The location would change from time to time. Couldn't even keep the lies straight. He said it would arrive via a courier and the box contained a password to open. What do you think the password to the "box" was?

Password. Facepalm

The best was recently he sent an email to my SC saying they both were going to be arrested by the FBI if my SC didn't pay the scammer $1000 immediately. I informed SC to reply with "don't drop the soap". laugh out loud

I would also get a list of every medication that the SC is taking and do your own research about dosages and side effects. One of the meds my SC was prescribed would cause brain fog in higher doses. If you haven't done so, ask the SC if you can go to doctor's appointments with them, and discuss your concerns with the doctor.

As LC2 said above, getting the SC out and away from electronics may help as well.
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