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The G3 is LG's flagship thus the higher price. Is meant to compete with the Sony A95L and Samsung S95C. If price wasn't a factor in my opinion Sony A95L is better than the LG G3, and in last place is the S95C.
The S90C and S89C are cheaper versions of the S95C with the main difference being the wireless input box that no one really cares about, a little brighter image, and a slight better color calibration out of the box, and maybe better audio. However reviews have shown that image quality between the S90C and S89C is negligible. I saw them side by side and I really can't tell the difference. So the S90C has become the better buy.
The G3 price in the other hand is way higher because of the reputation LG has built in the past few years in the OLED TV market, making the demand for it high in that market. Not to mention that LG has to pay Dolby fees for the Dolby Vision and Sound features included. Samsung doesn't includes Dolby with their TV so they can lower the price. The OS Tizen, although is a piece of crap costs less to use for Samsung's TV division mainly because it is used in way more devices than LG's WebOS. Samsung is the number 1TV maker in the market and has had better manufacturing yields than LG. LG is known that has had some problems utilizing their plants at 100% thus increases the costs.
In summary G3 costs more because it is a higher tier TV for LG, with better image processor, Dolby, better reputation, and a brightness good enough thanks to MLA. The S90C is cheaper because it doesn't have Dolby, is Samsung's mid tier TV, Sammy has lower reputation to LG in the OLED market, and I think mainly because Samsung decided that their strategy in the OLED market was to compete in the more affordable tiers.
If you have the money to burn go with the G3 or the Sony A95L for sure. I wish I had that kind of money, would have gotten a Sony long time ago. But for less than $2k this Samsung TV is the undefeated best value.
I was at Costco and the staff recommended LG over Sony only due to price, but said Sony is still king. Basically what he's getting at is that LG shares the same or similar hardware as Sony, but the image processing is next level with Sony. Is this true in regards to the hardware statement?
I'm willing to pay a little more if it's that much better. I've always bought Samsung and Sony. Been scared too venture out to other brands.
Just want to know if LG reliability is as good as Sony and Samsung TVs.
I'm not a pro at TVs nowadays. both are OLED, why is this much less?
I bought both the G3 and the 89, and have been measuring both with a color probe for a month.
The LG has poor panel uniformity due to its production method. They use vapor deposition, which means there's alot of over-spray of the material, that's why you get this bad dirty screen effect on uniform textures like sports grass. This is not a deal breaker unless you really hate this look. Samsung is really really clean, only very feint vertical lines, but no hazing at all pervasive on the LG.
The LG colors are significantly less saturated than the samsung, especially when you set a high brightness for day time use. This makes the memory colors (grass/school bus) look more natural out of the box. You can achieve the same look on the samsung, but it takes tweaking. Out of the box, the samsung gives you a bit of that orange skin vibe. Buses look a bit like radioactive twinkies, the grass pushes on sun-yellow.
The LG software is also much more refined and easy to deal with, everything just works as you'd expect. Samsung is, well, it's samsung, they roll with, good enough.
For me personally. I decided to keep the samsung, because I can get the performance I want using a colorimeter for calibration. For everyone else, I think they have to decide on, Do you care about dirty screen effect (avoid LG), Do you want the widest possible pop looking colors (get Samsung), or an understated but still good/ more natural color (LG).
For example, anime looks really bad on the LG if it's set to high brightness, everything is horribly washed out. On the samsung, if you don't reign it in, it's basically rainbow barf, some scenes look neon laser. This is not a good vs bad assessment, it's a taste issue.
If you are a colorimeter owning hobbyist like myself. Then you already know, Samsung all the way.
I bought both the G3 and the 89, and have been measuring both with a color probe for a month.
The LG has poor panel uniformity due to its production method. They use vapor deposition, which means there's alot of over-spray of the material, that's why you get this bad dirty screen effect on uniform textures like sports grass. This is not a deal breaker unless you really hate this look. Samsung is really really clean, only very feint vertical lines, but no hazing at all pervasive on the LG.
The LG colors are significantly less saturated than the samsung, especially when you set a high brightness for day time use. This makes the memory colors (grass/school bus) look more natural out of the box. You can achieve the same look on the samsung, but it takes tweaking. Out of the box, the samsung gives you a bit of that orange skin vibe. Buses look a bit like radioactive twinkies, the grass pushes on sun-yellow.
The LG software is also much more refined and easy to deal with, everything just works as you'd expect. Samsung is, well, it's samsung, they roll with, good enough.
For me personally. I decided to keep the samsung, because I can get the performance I want using a colorimeter for calibration. For everyone else, I think they have to decide on, Do you care about dirty screen effect (avoid LG), Do you want the widest possible pop looking colors (get Samsung), or an understated but still good/ more natural color (LG).
For example, anime looks really bad on the LG if it's set to high brightness, everything is horribly washed out. On the samsung, if you don't reign it in, it's basically rainbow barf, some scenes look neon laser. This is not a good vs bad assessment, it's a taste issue.
If you are a colorimeter owning hobbyist like myself. Then you already know, Samsung all the way.
You're making me really think about this now. And what comes to mind the most is the color pop and clarity. I'm also not against tweaking some TV settings if needed.
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I'm willing to pay a little more if it's that much better. I've always bought Samsung and Sony. Been scared too venture out to other brands.
Just want to know if LG reliability is as good as Sony and Samsung TVs.
A 77" G3 at Costco for $2300 would be a great buy if true.
I bought both the G3 and the 89, and have been measuring both with a color probe for a month.
The LG has poor panel uniformity due to its production method. They use vapor deposition, which means there's alot of over-spray of the material, that's why you get this bad dirty screen effect on uniform textures like sports grass. This is not a deal breaker unless you really hate this look. Samsung is really really clean, only very feint vertical lines, but no hazing at all pervasive on the LG.
The LG colors are significantly less saturated than the samsung, especially when you set a high brightness for day time use. This makes the memory colors (grass/school bus) look more natural out of the box. You can achieve the same look on the samsung, but it takes tweaking. Out of the box, the samsung gives you a bit of that orange skin vibe. Buses look a bit like radioactive twinkies, the grass pushes on sun-yellow.
The LG software is also much more refined and easy to deal with, everything just works as you'd expect. Samsung is, well, it's samsung, they roll with, good enough.
For me personally. I decided to keep the samsung, because I can get the performance I want using a colorimeter for calibration. For everyone else, I think they have to decide on, Do you care about dirty screen effect (avoid LG), Do you want the widest possible pop looking colors (get Samsung), or an understated but still good/ more natural color (LG).
For example, anime looks really bad on the LG if it's set to high brightness, everything is horribly washed out. On the samsung, if you don't reign it in, it's basically rainbow barf, some scenes look neon laser. This is not a good vs bad assessment, it's a taste issue.
If you are a colorimeter owning hobbyist like myself. Then you already know, Samsung all the way.
A 77" G3 at Costco for $2300 would be a great buy if true.
edit: Rtings explained why, the s89c is a 77inch in review. The s90c was a 55inch.
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