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LG 14x SATA Internal Blu-ray Rewriter

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Amazon has LG Electronics 14x SATA Blu-ray Internal Rewriter (WH14NS40) on sale for $49.99. Shipping is free.

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  • Drive Type: Super-Multi Internal SATA Blu-ray Disc Rewriter
  • BD-R SL/DL: 14X/12XDVD-R SL/DL: 16X/8XDVD+R SL/DL: 16X/8X
  • CD-RW: 24X
  • Buffer Memory: 4MB
  • Operating System: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7
  • Without Software

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Amazon has LG Electronics 14x SATA Blu-ray Internal Rewriter (WH14NS40) on sale for $49.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member 49studebaker for sharing this deal.

Features:
  • Drive Type: Super-Multi Internal SATA Blu-ray Disc Rewriter
  • BD-R SL/DL: 14X/12XDVD-R SL/DL: 16X/8XDVD+R SL/DL: 16X/8X
  • CD-RW: 24X
  • Buffer Memory: 4MB
  • Operating System: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7
  • Without Software

Editor's Notes

Written by SubZero5 | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price matches the previous +133 FP deal.
    • Please see original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.
  • About this product:
    • Rated 4.6 out of 5 stars w/ over 4,000 Amazon customer reviews.
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jkilez
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In case anyone is interested, this is a UHD friendly drive, and with a firmware downgrade it can read 4K discs.
William0722
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For people like myself that are tired of paying for too many streaming services but like the convenience of opening an app to play my media, I use this drive to rip my DVDs, Blu Rays, and UHD Blu ray and store the media on a NAS to watch on JellyFin.
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Adjusted for inflation, $35 in 2016 is $44 in 2024. The current price is not to far away from the all time lowest price.

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Feb 04, 2024 09:44 AM
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LivelyManatee460Feb 04, 2024 09:44 AM
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Quote from jkilez :
In case anyone is interested, this is a UHD friendly drive, and with a firmware downgrade it can read 4K discs.
Why a firmware downgrade? Does the latest firmware have a bug?
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Feb 04, 2024 09:52 AM
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LivelyManatee460Feb 04, 2024 09:52 AM
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Quote from jkilez :
In case anyone is interested, this is a UHD friendly drive, and with a firmware downgrade it can read 4K discs.
Why a firmware downgrade? Does the latest firmware have a bug?
Quote from DataJager :
I just want to know, who is buying this in 2024, and what are you doing with it?
Not trolling, just honestly curious about physical media.
Maybe you're backing up home movies, maybe you have years of tv shows you want to store on blu-ray, I don't know.
Theres a trend nowadays to abandon streaming & subscription services and go back to physical media. Esp w/ video games nowadays. Since the big statement from Ubisoft a few weeks ago about their new platform and telling gamers to get comfortable w/ not owning games so that platforms like theirs can succeed. Same w/ streaming services, content comes and goes all the time on Netflix, Hulu, Crunchyroll, etc... Owning media also prevents you from getting locked into platform exclusives and all that. I think companies pulled a trigger when they stopped selling Blu-ray media recently and its caused a lot of backlash and uproar in communities which are now responding more positively toward media ownership. Arguably aggressively removing physical media from major outlets brought life back into the market for it.
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Feb 04, 2024 10:02 AM
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BerMM2Feb 04, 2024 10:02 AM
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Quote from IndigoSnail848 :
Can I use this on a Win10 or 11 machine? With UHD capability?

Thank you!
Yes, Windows 10 and 11 work fine with this. UHD discs can be copied (aka ripped) to a hard drive with MakeMKV and played with something like VLC. Playing the discs directly (without copying them first) requires PowerDVD and a 6th to 10th generation Intel processor.
Feb 04, 2024 10:14 AM
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BerMM2Feb 04, 2024 10:14 AM
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Quote from gamingdroid :
Can you explain that last part?
MakeMKV is free and fully functional (including copying blurays) with one catch: once a month or two you have to copy a new registration key from their site to the app. If that is too annoying (most think it isn't) or you want to support the developers you can buy the app.
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Feb 04, 2024 10:16 AM
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BerMM2Feb 04, 2024 10:16 AM
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Quote from daogmack :
Does anyone use this on Windows 11 PC? Just curious if you have to purchase other software to be able to rip the movies?
Works great with MakeMKV on Win11.
Feb 04, 2024 12:40 PM
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teknomedicFeb 04, 2024 12:40 PM
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Quote from gamingdroid :
I'm not going to tell you what is better or worse, as I think it's up to people to determine it for themselves. What I can say is that as an older fart with tubs of physical media that takes up a lot of space, I've largely gone away from this mindset. I used to swear never to go all digital, then I was forced out of necessity and I've largely 95% digital.

Here are my reasons (which I'm sure you undoubtedly already considered, but for discussions sake):

a) Physical media takes a lot of space and creates clutter. Collects dust, increase cost for storage, maintenance and also creates pollution to manufacture (although the latter is arguable as some studies indicate digital is worse 🤷 ♂️).

b) Physical media also essentially become obsolete in some cases, such as DVDs are replaced by Blu-Ray and then again by UHD Blu-Ray. If I watch something again, I want to watch it at the best fidelity reasonably available to me.

c) Software in particular is problematic, because the buy once model means it eventually stops getting support. Security updates, new features or even have an save/export file format that is no longer supported. It may stop functioning on the latest OS and etc.

d) For streaming services like Netflix, there's a lot of surprise content that I wouldn't have bought otherwise, but end up loving. I watch a lot of Korean shows now, which I never thought I would like. I would probably never have bought it, but now I might.

Of course, the down side is with subscription or online streaming, you're at the mercy of the provider. There really should be laws to protect consumer content, and even transfer rights. Xbox One launch back in 2013 tried something like that to an extent and was met with a crap-storm of shortsightedness so we're stuck with the status quo.

So I've resorted to getting comfortable with content loss risk (which is likely extremely rare and hopefully stays that way) for the convenience and increased life quality.

I've also been rethinking how my hoarding/collection habits in terms of my mortality. To try to enjoy in the moment rather than worry about the future, or lament the past.
A) Not after you rip them onto a HDD. Not telling you how to live with your morals/ethics but nothing really stopping you from ripping and reselling to make back what you might have paid.

B) Agian, once ripped, you can convert if to the latest and greatest, but it's 99% not needed... Ever.

C) See "B"... But also, once ripped, not a problem migrating to newer software, especially with open source apps and the fans that make them.

D) Sure, but internet searches work to discover new media to consume as well... Such as movie reviews on rotten tomatoes, etc. Also a counter point... Besides streaming services like Netflix, Disney, etc removing content at random. They've also been censoring original versions or making slight changes to erase cinematic history. Beyond that, they've already started inserting updated ads or adding commercials into services... This will not stop and only get worse. I'll keep ripping my physical media to avoid such horrors. This is happening far more often than you seem to understand.
But.. You do you.
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dj3stripesFeb 04, 2024 01:12 PM
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Quote from LivelyManatee460 :
Why a firmware downgrade? Does the latest firmware have a bug?
if you consider copy protection a bug, yes. it has a bug

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Feb 04, 2024 01:21 PM
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ExtremeLeftDemocrat1Feb 04, 2024 01:21 PM
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While I don't believe this is a 2012 model, I had this exact drive (still working up to the point of no return) and it could read/write blu-rays, both single, dual, and XL. Worked great, and it read every blu-ray disk without fail. However, it did not read UHDs.

Somehow I got on a thread about UHD readers and it took me to the MakeMKV site, where it gave the dream of reading 4K natively using the same hardware, but just by updating the firmware. This sounded great and right up my alley.

I began reading, and reading, and reading, and reading. I thought I had all the details I needed to make the move, so I did. It was magnificent! ... until I realized the device cannot read anything anymore (not even CDs).

I then began trying to fix it over the course of a year (can't dedicate every waking moment to figuring out how to fix it). However, just recently, I decided the amount of flashing I have done on the drive to revert the drive back to OEM standards was not going to fix it. I had to let it go.

I tell this story to make sure those who purchase it know the limitations and possible disasters of attempting to modify the drive (if possible) to add the UHD functionality (if it doesn't come pre-flashed).

For those wondering what I missed (or did wrong), here is what I believe happened:
1. My drive was a 2012 drive, but in the directions (that I missed), it doesn't support drives earlier than 2015.
2. I don't know what I did with the original flash backup. It may have failed and I just thought "lets just do it anyway", but I should have been able to go back if I had the original flash backup.
3. While reading, I didn't read enough. I should have read more..
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Feb 04, 2024 01:38 PM
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AdamA8790Feb 04, 2024 01:38 PM
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Quote from jkilez :
In case anyone is interested, this is a UHD friendly drive, and with a firmware downgrade it can read 4K discs.
Wait, UHD level readers take a firmware downgrade to be backwards compatible? Or am I misunderstanding because that sounds insane and like you're saying it normally can't read 4k disks. Also, when you say UHD, you mean as in 4k, right? Like 4k TVs are UHD (while we can be technical and say true 4k has like 6% more pixels than an UHD screen but they are used interchangeably).
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jkilezFeb 04, 2024 02:23 PM
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Quote from LivelyManatee460 :
Why a firmware downgrade? Does the latest firmware have a bug?
Quote from AdamA8790 :
Wait, UHD level readers take a firmware downgrade to be backwards compatible? Or am I misunderstanding because that sounds insane and like you're saying it normally can't read 4k disks. Also, when you say UHD, you mean as in 4k, right? Like 4k TVs are UHD (while we can be technical and say true 4k has like 6% more pixels than an UHD screen but they are used interchangeably).
They disabled the UHD 4k disc reading ability in later firmware revisions, that is why it must be downgraded. UHD "friendly" drives lack the certificate handling ability of official UHD drives, meaning they can read and rip the discs, but they cannot directly play encrypted 4k movies.

See: MakeMKV UHD Drive Flashing Guide [makemkv.com]
Last edited by jkilez February 4, 2024 at 06:53 AM.
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Feb 04, 2024 03:03 PM
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IdentibrainFeb 04, 2024 03:03 PM
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it works with windows XP? great
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Feb 04, 2024 03:12 PM
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RUsum1Feb 04, 2024 03:12 PM
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Quote from MWink :
Unless things have changed (which is possible), the ability to rip Blu-Rays required buying the registered version, after a 30-day free trial.



Not all of it. The site is down now but I have an old screenshot. Here's part of what it says:

"MakeMKV contains both freeware and shareware functionality... Converting or streaming Blu-ray discs is shareware functionality. You can use shareware functionality for free during 30-days trial period."

As I mentioned, it's possible this policy has changed but this is how it used to be.
Yeah. That 30-day policy just needs to be renewed with the new registration key that they provide in their forum section. I've never paid for the program and have used it for years
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Quote from UniquePen959 :
Does this support HDDVD?
Search eBay for an Xbox 360 HD DVD accessory. It's USB external drive. After you plug it into your computer, MakeMKV has no trouble ripping. I still have mine in a box somewhere along with my HD-DVDs, but as far as I know every single HD-DVD has been rereleased on Blu-ray or 4K with superior encodes or remastered entirely.
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Quote from dj3stripes :
if you consider copy protection a bug, yes. it has a bug
More specifically, the bug artificially limits the drive's original functionality. Downgrading the firmware fixes the bug and restores full functionality.
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Feb 04, 2024 03:20 PM
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AdamA8790Feb 04, 2024 03:20 PM
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Quote from jkilez :
They disabled the UHD 4k disc reading ability in later firmware revisions, that is why it must be downgraded. UHD "friendly" drives lack the certificate handling ability of official UHD drives, meaning they can read and rip the discs, but they cannot directly play encrypted 4k movies.

See: MakeMKV UHD Drive Flashing Guide [makemkv.com]
Jesus...why would they do that???
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