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Panasonic 4K UHD Blu-Ray Player, DP-UB420 $200

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It's the same price at Amazon and Crutchfield too. This $200 price seems to be as good as it's been for this model since 2022. Best Buy is also shipping (for free) Open-Box Excellent models for $165.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pana...Id=6361757
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It's the same price at Amazon and Crutchfield too. This $200 price seems to be as good as it's been for this model since 2022. Best Buy is also shipping (for free) Open-Box Excellent models for $165.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/pana...Id=6361757

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Feb 16, 2024 08:53 PM
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HurricaneKidFeb 16, 2024 08:53 PM
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Oof. This used to go down to $150. Then $180. If $200 is the lowest it gets I think it is going to lose its reputation as the best budget player. Still good, just a sizable price increase on an older tech good that used to sell for a lot less.
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Quote from HurricaneKid :
Oof. This used to go down to $150. Then $180. If $200 is the lowest it gets I think it is going to lose its reputation as the best budget player. Still good, just a sizable price increase on an older tech good that used to sell for a lot less.
I think part of the problem is these players in general are becoming niche items that don't sell a lot of volume so that (on top of inflation) is likely driving the prices higher. Stores like Target, Sam's Club, and Costco don't even carry 4k Blu-ray players anymore.
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HurricaneKidFeb 16, 2024 09:34 PM
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Quote from bcm00re :
I think part of the problem is these players in general are becoming niche items that don't sell a lot of volume so that (on top of inflation) is likely driving the prices higher. Stores like Target, Sam's Club, and Costco don't even carry 4k Blu-ray players anymore.
Is 4k niche? I am an outlier with HT stuff but I thought there was a decent market segment there. I know ppl are buying 4k TVs. Are they buying 4k TVs and watching DVD and BluRay?
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Feb 17, 2024 12:36 AM
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Quote from HurricaneKid :
I know ppl are buying 4k TVs. Are they buying 4k TVs and watching DVD and BluRay?
Perhaps you haven't heard of streaming? Wink I would be willing to bet the vast majority aren't buying discs and are instead watching their 4k via streaming. Those major retailers didn't stop carrying 4k BR players because they were selling well!
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Quote from bcm00re :
Perhaps you haven't heard of streaming? Wink I would be willing to bet the vast majority aren't buying discs and are instead watching their 4k via streaming. Those major retailers didn't stop carrying 4k BR players because they were selling well!
LOL @ 4k streaming.

Blu-ray >>>>>> "4k streaming"
4k >>>>>>>> Blu-ray

But like I said, I'm an outlier
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Quote from HurricaneKid :
LOL @ 4k streaming.

Blu-ray >>>>>> "4k streaming"
4k >>>>>>>> Blu-ray

But like I said, I'm an outlier
I totally agree but do you honestly think the average Joe understands that? I explained why 4k TVs sell (orders of magnitude) better than 4k BR players. Like it or no, indicators point to 4k BR players becoming niche.
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Quote from HurricaneKid :
LOL @ 4k streaming.

Blu-ray >>>>>> "4k streaming"
4k >>>>>>>> Blu-ray

But like I said, I'm an outlier
Physical media >>>>>> streaming mainly for sound.
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Physical media >>>>>> streaming mainly for sound.
I believe video bits rates are notably higher with physical media -- more data equates to a better image.
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maxwellsilverhammerFeb 17, 2024 02:13 PM
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aside from dolby vision and analog audio outputs, is there any difference in playback quality between this and the ub820?
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Quote from maxwellsilverhammer :
aside from dolby vision and analog audio outputs, is there any difference in playback quality between this and the ub820?
No there is not.
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bweiherFeb 17, 2024 03:18 PM
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I picked up an open box / excellent from Best Buy and shipped to home, the last time the price dropped on this player and the 820, a little after Black Friday I believe. Unit has performed flawlessly and has been a very nice upgrade from our mid-tier Sony BluRay player.

I will note, it absolutely takes longer to power up, as well as to read the disks when initially put into the drive, but the span is in seconds not minutes, but definitely longer than our previous player, just FYI.
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slickfreeFeb 17, 2024 03:27 PM
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Does this have Dolby Vision?
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Jhandu.dealsFeb 17, 2024 05:30 PM
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Quote from slickfree :
Does this have Dolby Vision?
No, not this one. The 820 does
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steven1234Feb 18, 2024 06:24 AM
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Quote from bcm00re :
I believe video bits rates are notably higher with physical media -- more data equates to a better image.
Yes, but modern compression is pretty incredible. The best 4k streaming content can look great: depending on the scene and what you're watching it on. I've seen reviewers watching a movie purchased via Apple store vs 4k disc - and they said there was barely a difference.

I'll personally take a 1080p Blu-ray over "4k" streaming any day; and sound is more important to me personally. Hell -- I'll even take a 15gb h265 file over what most providers call "4k streaming."
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Quote from bcm00re :
Perhaps you haven't heard of streaming? Wink I would be willing to bet the vast majority aren't buying discs and are instead watching their 4k via streaming. Those major retailers didn't stop carrying 4k BR players because they were selling well!
Streaming is garbage.
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